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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: .::Tin Can::. on July 20, 2004, 09:14:33 am

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on July 20, 2004, 09:14:33 am

Crap... well it was recommended that if you start a campaign, you need a website to show progress, screenies, etc etc. When I asked if there was some kindof app that put it together for you, since there are so many, they said that you just need a hoster and you need to make one.

Well... I dont know, how, to make one, unfortunately. Is there anything that can help with this? Someone told me that there are webmasters that might be willing to help, so I decided to give this one a shot.

DONT FLAME ME! :shaking:

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Ghostavo on July 20, 2004, 09:38:18 am

Front Page is your friend... :p



:nervous:

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: karajorma on July 20, 2004, 09:39:39 am

Depends on what you want to do. I personally use AceHTML for my pages but with something like that you have to learn HTML yourself. It's not a hard language to learn. In fact it's only a little more complex than the forum code you use here for the basic stuff like inserting pictures etc.

If you don't know HTML you might better off with a program that builds the page for you though.

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Rictor on July 20, 2004, 09:42:44 am

If I understand you correctly, you need an HTML editor, right?

Dreamweaver MX is more or less the industry standard, and it allows even total newbies to make simple webpages easily. Mozilla has it own editor, though I have yet to try it out and can't vouch for it. And there is always trusty Notepad, though if you're looking for ease of use and as long as the webpage is going to be relatively simple, this is probably not the best choice.

Or, if you want, you could use Photoshop, which also has the capability to make webpages through its "slice" feature, though I wasn't all that impressed when I used it.

BTW, whats the campaign?

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Knight Templar on July 20, 2004, 12:33:40 pm

Frontpage.... is the devil.... but your friend in this case. Use it.

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Lonestar on July 20, 2004, 12:43:12 pm

I would design you a page for your campaign, nothing big or anything but something decent. IM me for more info, and ill hook you up.

If you want to make webpages, get Macromedia Dreamweaver MX to start. Its very simple to use and if your inclined to learn a bit this will help you greatly.

Frontpage is alright for noobs though.

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on July 20, 2004, 01:12:43 pm

Luckily I have dreamweaver MX on hand! I'll get to work! :D

I love you guys! ;)

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Rictor on July 20, 2004, 01:33:58 pm

frontpage is the devil incarnate. Avoid it like the plauge.

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on July 20, 2004, 02:22:02 pm

I dunno, it was recommended to me because it was more newbie-friendly. And Dreamweaver seems a bit intimidating when I look at it... *eyes the evil program of dewm*

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Rictor on July 20, 2004, 02:26:13 pm

Make sure you're in Layout view. It should be selectable from a tab near the top of the screen. Once you're in layout view, the two icons below are the Table and Cell buttons, which create a table and cells, respectively.

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Kamikaze on July 20, 2004, 03:32:13 pm

WYSIWYG programs are *nasty*. Learning html (preferably xhtml) and css is not that hard, so that's the way to go.

Try these:
http://www.w3schools.com/
http://www.w3.org/

Just so you know how nice CSS is (:p):
http://csszengarden.com

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: karajorma on July 20, 2004, 03:41:46 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Kamikaze
WYSIWYG programs are *nasty*.

Not to mention completely pointless for HTML since every browser works differently.

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Ryx on July 20, 2004, 04:03:34 pm

Notepad is your friend. Actually, I stumbled across an IDE a while back; Dev-PHP (http://devphp.sourceforge.net/). Syntax highlighting and stuff. Very nice and Open Source (free).
Been using it for xhtml, css, javascript and now PHP (learning it). :nod:

Anyway, HTML is quite easy, really.
http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/index.html
http://www.tutorialized.com/tutorials/HTML/1

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Rictor on July 20, 2004, 04:42:10 pm

well, WYSIWYG editors are great for newbies and uh...people who just can't do tables if their life depended on it, like me. Everything else I can handle, its just the damn tables that always get me. I really should learn CSS soon.

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Ghostavo on July 20, 2004, 04:59:46 pm

Front Page is the perfect program for n00bs (like me ;) ) to make web pages. It's Word on steroids. :p

You don't even have to know any language, it's perfect to get started. :p

Title: Need Help with Web Pages!
Post by: Kamikaze on July 20, 2004, 08:33:50 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Rictor
well, WYSIWYG editors are great for newbies and uh...people who just can't do tables if their life depended on it, like me. Everything else I can handle, its just the damn tables that always get me. I really should learn CSS soon.

If you learn to use CSS well you won't need to use tables for page layout. Table code is ugly to look at anyway.

That csszengarden (http://csszengarden.com) site uses no tables, but looks very lovely.