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Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: Fear on July 21, 2004, 04:12:13 pm
im in the mission in freespace1 that u have the stolen ship of the shivan(dragon or something like that)... and u need to scan ships/cruiser/destroyer(eva).

the problem is everytime i get to eva i die... i just cant scan it..! its so huge where do i even start scannig?

p.s is there a way to targe my monitor list? insteed of pressing h all the time..?
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: Nuclear1 on July 21, 2004, 04:24:30 pm
I don't know why you should be having trouble scanning the Eva in that mission. Volition made a seperate ship entry for this Eva that allows it to be scanned from a few kilometers away, so it's basically just target, get it inside your HUD, and wait for the beeping to end.

And, yes, you can target objects on your escort list easily: E (convenient, ain't it? :D )
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: Fear on July 21, 2004, 05:27:36 pm
well yes! yes it is.
but everytime i move abit the scannig stop and i have to rescan... beside i tryed to scan it from a meter because i cant scan it from kilometer because of the ship size. its huge and move 10 time faster than me...
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: jdjtcagle on July 21, 2004, 05:33:25 pm
I have the same problems, try scanning a subsystem, instead of the hull
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: karajorma on July 21, 2004, 06:14:55 pm
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Originally posted by nuclear1
I don't know why you should be having trouble scanning the Eva in that mission. Volition made a seperate ship entry for this Eva that allows it to be scanned from a few kilometers away, so it's basically just target, get it inside your HUD, and wait for the beeping to end.
 


Fear's playing on the port not the [V] version though and I don't know if the port guys did the same thing.

Not tried the mission on the port so I can't advise much.
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: mrfun on July 21, 2004, 08:14:43 pm
Hit S to target a subsystem and keep the red box for it centered.  Should be much easier then tring to find the center of the whole ship.
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: Fear on July 22, 2004, 03:56:11 am
didnt thought of that... i will try it.
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: Fear on July 22, 2004, 04:48:11 am
guess what guys? i manage to scan the eva ! but afterwards i need to scan the lucifer.... and then they tell me to scan the docking bay.... while i try to scan the fighter bay (because i cant see any docking bay) the ramma wing is on me, 5 second later im dead.

this is the most suckiest ship ever been built once her  shiled disapper she suck big time....

tips any 1?
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: Fear on July 22, 2004, 07:13:00 am
YEAA hohoho im done! now im guarding the hope.
(little spoiler ahead)
damn this mission is a pain in the ass just like the last mission (lucifer dies)
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: karajorma on July 22, 2004, 08:32:33 am
The bit when you face rama wing is probably one of the hardest bits in the entire game. :)

Well done getting past it :)
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: Goober5000 on July 22, 2004, 09:24:25 am
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Originally posted by karajorma
Fear's playing on the port not the [V] version though and I don't know if the port guys did the same thing.
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Originally posted by nuclear1
I don't know why you should be having trouble scanning the Eva in that mission. Volition made a seperate ship entry for this Eva
Oy.  Both of you have gotten everything entirely backwards. :lol: First of all, he's playing Freespace 1...
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Originally posted by Fear
im in the mission in freespace1
Second of all, the Port made a duplicate ship entry (not Volition) because Volition changed the scanning behavior in Freespace 2.  You only need one entry in FS1, because you scan the ship as a whole.  In FS2, when scanning destroyers and up, you can only scan subsystems.  Thus the duplicate entry was needed so that we could pretend the Eva and the Lucifer were corvettes for that one mission.

The best way to scan something is to do exactly what Snipes tells you in Rebels and Renegades: keep the lead indicator in the center of your reticle.  It actually helps if you turn off subsystem targeting, because that way you can see the lead indicator for the whole ship.  When scanning the whole ship, you have to face the ship's lead indicator, whether or not you're targeting a subsystem.  It's only when scanning a subsystem that you face the subsystem indicator.

Clear? :)
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: karajorma on July 22, 2004, 10:28:26 am
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Originally posted by Goober5000
Oy.  Both of you have gotten everything entirely backwards. :lol: First of all, he's playing Freespace 1


No he isn't :D I've been helping him out on another Thread :D

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Originally posted by Fear
Hey there, im new.
my favourite game is freespace2 and when i saw ur mod i digged my copy of freespace 2, and was about to install it. but before i did, i wanted to download all the required filesfor scp.

and then i discovered a new mod that ports the freespace1/silent threat to the freespace2 engine.


As for the tables being the other way round you're correct there but I was only responding to Nuclear1's bad info :D
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: an0n on July 22, 2004, 11:27:59 am
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Originally posted by karajorma
The bit when you face rama wing is probably one of the hardest bits in the entire game. :)
No, the hardest part in the game is trying not to cry when you realise there's about a dozen Shivan cap-ships and a million bloody fighters all coming towards you and you see that little "Subspace drives are ****ed" message.

I had to skim along the hull of the Lucifer for like 5 minutes, dodging fire, before I could get far enough away to jump out.
Title: I just cant do it....
Post by: Stealth on July 22, 2004, 01:33:03 pm
yeah there's like 20 seconds where you've got a dozen manticores and cap ship turrets attacking you, and you've got practically no weapons, and a sorryass ship...

and all you have to do is avoid getting killed... it's hard