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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: BlackFish on July 25, 2004, 11:52:02 am

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: BlackFish on July 25, 2004, 11:52:02 am

I'm trying to play with the AI in Freespace 2. In coop mode it works fine. When I do dogfight, the ai bots suddenly dissapear.

I also try to do multiplayer in SCP but it doesn't work at all.

what now? :(

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: deep_eyes on July 26, 2004, 12:12:54 am

FS2 never had official bots unless your in multi-campaign mode.

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: Cetanu on July 26, 2004, 04:14:48 am

correct, there are no bots in FS2 - that's why AI jumps out in Dogfights and why you can't start TvTs without a 2nd player

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 26, 2004, 04:28:47 am

I thought they were supposed to all die in dogfight.

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: TopAce on July 26, 2004, 04:33:05 am

Is adding the AI to dogfights possible?(It may good for training.)

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: Cetanu on July 26, 2004, 04:44:13 am

in this case I ment AI with the player flag set - never tried AI fighters without that flag in a Dogfight mission >> try it TopAce ;)

... as for training: normal hostile AI fighters you find in every Coop, so not really necessary

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: TopAce on July 26, 2004, 04:45:53 am

I meant single player. You cannot respawn in single player. A single player dogfight where you can respawn would be the training exercise I am talking about.

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: Cetanu on July 26, 2004, 04:50:28 am

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Originally posted by TopAce
I meant single player. You cannot respawn in single player. A single player dogfight where you can respawn would be the training exercise I am talking about.

You start to confuse me... you already know such a dogfight isn't possible :D

but there is a solution:
create a multiplayer pilot, host a Coop (as LAN game) and you have your respawns... and lots of red dots to shoot at

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: TopAce on July 26, 2004, 04:56:05 am

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Originally posted by Cetanu

You start to confuse me... you already know such a dogfight isn't possible :D
...

From Retail FreeSpace or SCP point of view?

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but there is a solution:
create a multiplayer pilot, host a Coop (as LAN game) and you have your respawns... and lots of red dots to shoot at

I already know about this. But I am talking about DOGFIGHTS! So the other pilots also shoot at each other.

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: Cetanu on July 26, 2004, 05:02:52 am

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Originally posted by TopAce
From Retail FreeSpace or SCP point of view?

to my knowledge nothing has changed there since the retail version

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: StratComm on July 26, 2004, 09:24:33 am

You, 3 wings of fighters, 1 fighter per wing, all with different alliance status (neutral, unknown, and hostile) however many waves you want, and the "all teams at war" tag.  You'd only get to play with 4 ships in the area at any given time, but it'd work.

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: TopAce on July 26, 2004, 11:42:11 am

This 'only' is my problem. And I did not about the four IFFs and the 'All teams at war' tag. Don't see any green in my eye, please.

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: karajorma on July 26, 2004, 02:39:30 pm

If you have more than 4 players why the hell do you need AI bots to practice on?

Title: Dissapearing bots?
Post by: TopAce on July 26, 2004, 03:42:40 pm

Because not everyone is able to play over the net so well. I do not mean pure piloting skills, I experienced so many LAGs while playing on PXO and I decided it is not worth playing because it is not enjoyable. My net connection is quite slow and a LAN connection is not always available. And even when LAN becomes available, who will I be playing with?