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Title: Not so much an old friend......
Post by: aldo_14 on July 25, 2004, 03:41:19 pm
As reusing an old name.

The GTVI-F Selkie

(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/images/temp/sm_hello.jpg) (http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/images/temp/hello.jpg)

See?  I can still make decent stuff.
Title: Not so much an old friend......
Post by: Knight Templar on July 25, 2004, 03:43:23 pm
Neato. :yes:
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 25, 2004, 03:55:56 pm
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/images/temp/selkie1.jpg)
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/images/temp/selkie2.jpg)
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/images/temp/selkie3.jpg)
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/images/temp/selkie4.jpg)
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/images/temp/selkie5.jpg)
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/images/temp/selkie6.jpg)
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Post by: aldi on July 25, 2004, 04:16:18 pm
that looks great do you plan to release it.
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Post by: KARMA on July 25, 2004, 04:21:15 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14

See?  I can still make decent stuff.


we never doubt so:)

btw where the hell are the highlight for this one, bob's deimos and nico's perseus????:confused: :confused:


btw the very rusty plating gives it an "old/used" aspect, it isn't "bad", actually I like it, but it's somewhat strange.
The plating is also very dark and with low contrast, and it makes me wonder if this could make a bit hard to notice the details in game (well, I guess we'll see that when it'll be converted).
Finally, some lines seem a little pixelated, dunno if it is due to a bit too low res of the textures or by you not using autoaliasing/blur on the diagonal lines in photoshop:p Considering your experience I suppose the first one :)
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Post by: Taristin on July 25, 2004, 04:25:12 pm
Well, I think the engines a little funny, but barring that, it's a very wll made mesh.

I really should get back into modelling...
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 25, 2004, 04:47:02 pm
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Originally posted by KARMA

btw the very rusty plating gives it an "old/used" aspect, it isn't "bad", actually I like it, but it's somewhat strange.
The plating is also very dark and with low contrast, and it makes me wonder if this could make a bit hard to notice the details in game (well, I guess we'll see that when it'll be converted).


I'm trying a new style.... wartorn, I guess.  My newest model (Claymore) worked out ok, but I wasn't happy with how 'clean' it looked.  I'm still developing it, though - I've gut gunbarrels more or less nailed, but the level of corrosion on fighter hulls is tricky.  Especially as I'm having to do it on effectively a per-pixel level (at least, with the brush I'm using there's no blurring), so there's a slight issue with the whole pixellation thing.

Plus I wanted to keep the details deliberately low key and indistinct, it's more realistic IMO.  Other thing is that this is bumpmapped, so it's accentuated the graining - specmaps may do the same, but to a lesser degree.

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Originally posted by KARMA

Finally, some lines seem a little pixelated, dunno if it is due to a bit too low res of the textures or by you not using autoaliasing/blur on the diagonal lines in photoshop:p Considering your experience I suppose the first one :)


Texture res, yep.  Pain in the arse, but it's that or no diagonal lines, so.....


Oh - the Engines have that red ring because it's using Shivan tech.  Little odd, granted, but it should work quite well (I hope) with glowmaps in low-light missions.  Somewhat of a stab in the dark, in all honesty - the shape is, i think, spindly enough but the cockpit shape wasn't quite how I intended it.

(The yellow lighting may go, though.... not quite the desired effect).
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Post by: Lynx on July 25, 2004, 04:50:51 pm
Wow...simply Wow!

BTW is it just me, or does your texture style on this ship look a lot like the on most Alliance ships from StarLancer?
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 25, 2004, 04:52:55 pm
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Originally posted by Lynx
Wow...simply Wow!

BTW is it just me, or does your texture style on this ship look a lot like the on most Alliance ships from StarLancer?


I have no idea - I've never played Starlancer.

Incidentally - non bumpmapped render.  Canopy opacity is shot, natch.
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/images/temp/selkie_noBM.jpg)

EDIT - you may be able to tell - it's a pain in the arse for me to balance the level of detail, without feeling I'm not doing enough.
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Post by: Taristin on July 25, 2004, 05:07:57 pm
I know that feeling.  I keep overdoing detail on maps at times... aggravating.

I like the ship. And the textures look good. I understand why you wouldn't want to, but if you don't mind, could I see your PSD file for the texture? I like to pick up tips here and there.  If you say no, I understand completely, as it is alot of hard work.

Either way. Very good. I like it. Alot. The engine is growing on me. :)
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 25, 2004, 05:16:54 pm
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Originally posted by Raa

I like the ship. And the textures look good. I understand why you wouldn't want to, but if you don't mind, could I see your PSD file for the texture? I like to pick up tips here and there.  If you say no, I understand completely, as it is alot of hard work.


Just PM me your e-mail.... I actually have a bunch of backups, so you cna have the 'history' of it if you want.  I think I actually restarted the map quite late on.

Oh, and also have pilot / cockpit maps, too.  BMP only, though.
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Post by: Gloriano on July 25, 2004, 05:32:10 pm
Very nice :)
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Post by: Rictor on July 26, 2004, 01:33:43 am
as always, great work aldo.

...though I should mention, the orange engine bit made baby Jesus cry. They ruin what is otherwise a nearly flawless ship.
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Post by: WMCoolmon on July 26, 2004, 01:35:43 am
Nice...
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Post by: Tiara on July 26, 2004, 01:55:28 am
I like the ship, but the engine is just something that would make me NOT wanna use/fly/see it. Seriously, orange? i like the whole dark look of the ship but the engines really screw that look up.
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Post by: karajorma on July 26, 2004, 02:17:06 am
Just retint them once he releases it :D

@Aldo : That's a damn impressive ship. Is the cockpit model Nico's or your own (Cause it looks somewhat different from his to me).
Title: Not so much an old friend......
Post by: aldo_14 on July 26, 2004, 04:23:08 am
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Originally posted by karajorma
Just retint them once he releases it :D

@Aldo : That's a damn impressive ship. Is the cockpit model Nico's or your own (Cause it looks somewhat different from his to me).


Mine, did it from scratch... cos, well, I could.  Pilot maybe needs a bit more texturing work, tho.

Oh, and the engines are going back to red now - I don't like them either.
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Post by: Raptor on July 26, 2004, 08:30:25 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14

Mine, did it from scratch... cos, well, I could.  Pilot maybe needs a bit more texturing work, tho.


True.  Pilots are a pain to model AND texture. The pilot I did uses about a 1/4 of the polys on the rest of the craft!  And my texturing skills are not good enough ATM to do a good pilot.  Yours looks very nice.  Impressive texture work on the craft too, though a little dark.  But I guess it's characterful.  After all, the Pegasus is dark (sorta).
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Post by: Taristin on July 26, 2004, 08:36:20 am
Let me just say that that mesh is expertly done. I'm am more than impressed. I am once again jealous. The maps and mapping is so well done on this one...  It's not fair. My PC needs more ram... Waaah!
Title: Re: Not so much an old friend......
Post by: magatsu1 on July 26, 2004, 12:19:09 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
See?  I can still make decent stuff.


I wouldn't go that far.....

JOKE! JOKE! DON'T HATE ME!!

Actually that's very nice work. I thought wings were a no-no though ?  (I  happen to like 'em myself)

Would it be possible to make the canopy see-thru ?
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 26, 2004, 12:25:50 pm
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Originally posted by magatsu1


I wouldn't go that far.....

JOKE! JOKE! DON'T HATE ME!!

Actually that's very nice work. I thought wings were a no-no though ?  (I  happen to like 'em myself)


Why?

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Originally posted by magatsu1

Would it be possible to make the canopy see-thru ?


It is / will be.
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Post by: magatsu1 on July 26, 2004, 12:31:36 pm
'cos people always moan "no wings in zero G/ not original/yadda yadda ya"

as I said, I like 'em.

How do you do multiple quotes BTW ?
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Post by: Raptor on July 26, 2004, 02:07:25 pm
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Originally posted by magatsu1
How do you do multiple quotes BTW ?


Considerable use of 'Copy' and 'Paste?;)
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Post by: magatsu1 on July 26, 2004, 04:24:17 pm
oh, cool.
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 26, 2004, 04:27:22 pm
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Originally posted by magatsu1
'cos people always moan "no wings in zero G/ not original/yadda yadda ya"
 


Well, just remind them of the GTD Cube and how appealing would be to fly it into every battle ;)
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Post by: Zarax on July 26, 2004, 04:44:17 pm
Aldo, i guess it would be impossible to ask you to model something right now?
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Post by: Swamp_Thing on July 26, 2004, 11:44:25 pm
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Originally posted by magatsu1
'cos people always moan "no wings in zero G/ not original/yadda yadda ya"

as I said, I like 'em.


People who say that seem to forget that in a possible future where space travel is possible, ships need to land and fly in planets aswell! You better have a wing body on your ship, otherwise you´ll drop like a rock! ;7

I like them too. Infact, it seems i can´t get past the jetfighter syndrome whyle modeling! Every model i make seems to look like some funky looking airplane of the 90`s... Maybe i should just model a borg cube instead! :ick:
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 27, 2004, 12:45:17 pm
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Originally posted by Zarax
Aldo, i guess it would be impossible to ask you to model something right now?


It would be easily possible to ask.  I'd just say no :)

 I'm working weekdays, only model / texture / etc at weekends - so no time.
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Post by: Taristin on July 27, 2004, 12:55:34 pm
What is this model for? Did you have something in mind?

I could pof it real easy for you, if you wanted... (Although I know you know how to do that... unlike Nico...)
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Post by: magatsu1 on July 27, 2004, 05:31:46 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
I could pof it real easy for you, if you wanted... (Although I know you know how to do that... unlike Nico...)


are you havin' a pop at him "behind his back" ?:p :D
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Post by: Taristin on July 27, 2004, 05:40:29 pm
At Nico? No... :p He has an inherant hatred of TrueSpace, and since he doesn't use it, he can't convert his models. Therefore I assume that since he has never done it, he probably wouldn't know how. :p

So there :booty:
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Post by: magatsu1 on July 27, 2004, 05:42:08 pm
just checkin':p
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Post by: aldo_14 on July 29, 2004, 07:23:22 am
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Originally posted by Raa
What is this model for? Did you have something in mind?


Maybe.  Depends if a) I finish it and b) i can force myself to draw some very large maps for something else.

EDIT; Nico used to get problems trying to convert with TS, I believe.  Some weird localised thing.  I can convert with *hack spit* Truespace, but for some reason half the buttons in PCS are corrupted, so i can't actually add paths to models.
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Post by: pyro-manic on July 29, 2004, 01:38:56 pm
Very cool. :yes2::nod::yes: The engine hoops are a bit weird, but it's an excellent model. I can't fault it, except to say the gunpoints on the wingtips are going to mean it's got a funny spread when it fires - they're quite far apart. But that's obviously not a serious problem, and it looks great. :)
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Post by: Janos on July 29, 2004, 02:07:09 pm
Otherwise I'm lovin' it, but the engines... Well. Let's just say that I find them a bit comical.
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Post by: SadisticSid on July 29, 2004, 02:38:40 pm
Don't like the big protruding gun barrels - I prefer the weapons systems to be integrated into a ship's hull almost all the time. The engines look different, but interesting... good model overall I'd say - though you've done better :)
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Post by: vyper on July 29, 2004, 03:58:26 pm
Nice, and very unique. I'd just say watch that engine - it _does_ look a bit... cheap.