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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rictor on July 27, 2004, 08:35:05 pm

Title: I love the smell of coercion in the morning...
Post by: Rictor on July 27, 2004, 08:35:05 pm: http://www.planetdoom.com/#PQN469982

Doom 3 will NOT run under Windows 98. You will need XP or 2000.
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Post by: Tiara on July 27, 2004, 08:46:03 pm: Good... :drevil:

*goes to collect her payment from Gates*

BWAHAHAHA!

*cough*

eh... Nevermind...
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Post by: Ford Prefect on July 27, 2004, 08:56:32 pm: Doom can bite me.
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Post by: an0n on July 27, 2004, 09:01:12 pm: To be fair, who runs a 98 machine powerful enough to run DOOM3?
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Post by: Rictor on July 27, 2004, 09:08:37 pm: the OS has nothing to do with the hardware. They are not related. Xp does not magically overclock my videocard, nor does it make the game run faster. It takes up more resources, which actually makes the whole computer run slower.
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Post by: Thorn on July 27, 2004, 09:23:44 pm: Which is why you should run 2000. It uses a fraction of the resources XP does.
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Post by: phreak on July 27, 2004, 09:26:44 pm: i think they're releasing a linux port as well
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Post by: WMCoolmon on July 27, 2004, 09:52:34 pm: *Uses 2000*
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on July 28, 2004, 03:57:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
To be fair, who runs a 98 machine powerful enough to run DOOM3?

I do...
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Post by: Sandwich on July 28, 2004, 04:05:39 am: Quote
Originally posted by Thorn
Which is why you should run 2000. It uses a fraction of the resources XP does.

True, but for games, XP is still better AFAIK - 2000 has te HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) that makes games run slower than on 98. I think thy worked around that to some extent in XP.
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Post by: Gloriano on July 28, 2004, 04:19:36 am: Well I did expect that, and i have XP pro
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Post by: castor on July 28, 2004, 07:16:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
the OS has nothing to do with the hardware. They are not related. Xp does not magically overclock my videocard..
No, but you'll need drivers to run the HW ;)
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Post by: Liberator on July 30, 2004, 12:01:43 am: That sucks. Guess that's one game I won't be buying. I refuse to pay $300 for the OS(I ain't buying Home, i don't care what anybody says) and then drop another $50 for the game. Beg's the question though, aside from disk allocation(NTFS for XP, FAT32 for 98se), what's so special in Windows XP that makes it more desirable that 98se? I'm cheap, so I probably be using 98 after Longhorn comes out.
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Post by: Bobboau on July 30, 2004, 12:08:56 am: it can handel more than 128mb of ram properly
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Post by: Grey Wolf on July 30, 2004, 12:23:15 am: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator
That sucks. Guess that's one game I won't be buying. I refuse to pay $300 for the OS(I ain't buying Home, i don't care what anybody says) and then drop another $50 for the game. Beg's the question though, aside from disk allocation(NTFS for XP, FAT32 for 98se), what's so special in Windows XP that makes it more desirable that 98se? I'm cheap, so I probably be using 98 after Longhorn comes out.
$200, not $300. And you're waiting for Longhorn? Good luck. Current estimates place it in 2006, at least.
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Post by: Liberator on July 30, 2004, 01:02:12 am: Umm, last I checked XP Pro was $299, sounds alot like $300 to me. :d
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Post by: 01010 on July 30, 2004, 01:32:38 am: Quote
Originally posted by Liberator
That sucks. Guess that's one game I won't be buying. I refuse to pay $300 for the OS(I ain't buying Home, i don't care what anybody says) and then drop another $50 for the game. Beg's the question though, aside from disk allocation(NTFS for XP, FAT32 for 98se), what's so special in Windows XP that makes it more desirable that 98se? I'm cheap, so I probably be using 98 after Longhorn comes out.

You people BUY your OS?

Weird.
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Post by: Cyker on July 30, 2004, 02:14:31 am: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Quote
Originally posted by an0n
To be fair, who runs a 98 machine powerful enough to run DOOM3?

I do... [/B]

Woo, me too! :D
But it looks like I won't be touching Doom 3 until they release the Linux code. My Win2k installation is so freakin' slow and f'ed up compared to my '98 one that I have stopped using it for anything but testing!

It pisses me off - I have a GB of RAM and Win98 boots up in 3 seconds whereas 2k takes almost 3 minutes! Add to that the fact that 2k thrashes the hard disk when I do *ANYTHING* (right click on a text file... *thrash thrash thrash*)... kinda disappointing. Better cache management by arse!
To be fair this isn't a hugely common thing - Most of the 2k systems I've set up at work have been fine, but damned if I can figure out why it does it on mine. The only diff AFAIK is that at work we use Intel boxes and my machine is an AMD...

Say... err... on that note, anyone here got any experience with Gentoo? It's taken me 2 days just to get to stage3 - How long will it take me to install X and KDE...? *whimper*
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Post by: BlackDove on July 30, 2004, 03:41:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by 01010

You people BUY your OS?

Weird.
:lol:
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on July 30, 2004, 04:04:02 am: Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
it can handel more than 128mb of ram properly

I've been brought up to believe that 256mb was 98's limit, not 128.
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Post by: WMCoolmon on July 30, 2004, 04:04:30 am: Cyker, check your HD drivers. I installed some awhile back to get DMA working that had the side effect of corrupting the HD. :p
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Post by: Martinus on July 30, 2004, 09:51:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Cyker
Say... err... on that note, anyone here got any experience with Gentoo? It's taken me 2 days just to get to stage3 - How long will it take me to install X and KDE...? *whimper*

[color=66ff00]From a stage 1 install?

What's the machine/net connection specs?
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