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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Starks on July 29, 2004, 08:43:20 am

Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Starks on July 29, 2004, 08:43:20 am
Any plans to upgrade?
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: an0n on July 29, 2004, 08:46:59 am
vB 2 Hacks + vB 2 Site + vB3 forums = "ARARGSHDBNNAAN!!!!! *explodes*"
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Taristin on July 29, 2004, 08:56:50 am
...ok.
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Styxx on July 29, 2004, 09:49:57 am
More or less what an0n said.
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Setekh on July 29, 2004, 07:31:32 pm
It's unlikely at the moment. We have a few issues with vBulletin, sadly.
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Stealth on July 29, 2004, 10:28:49 pm
i never liked vBulletin 3.  besides i like the site like it is. why change it when it's working properly :p :)
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Thorn on July 29, 2004, 10:42:52 pm
The WISIWYG Editor is nice, though not really worth the hassle.
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Sandwich on July 30, 2004, 08:33:18 pm
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Originally posted by Stealth
why change it when it's working properly :p :)


:wtf:
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Starks on July 30, 2004, 08:42:47 pm
It's TWO  years old.

Released May 27th 2002.



There have been countless database, feature, and speed enhancements since then.
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Thorn on July 30, 2004, 09:23:51 pm
You want to pony up the 150 odd dollars for it then?
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: JR2000Z on July 30, 2004, 10:14:18 pm
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Originally posted by Stealth
i never liked vBulletin 3.  besides i like the site like it is. why change it when it's working properly :p :)


Thank you.

It gets worse with each release. UBB was fine and simple then once vbb3 came out, it turns into something AOL would support.
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Stealth on July 31, 2004, 12:53:32 am
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Originally posted by LLivingLarge
It's TWO  years old.

Released May 27th 2002.



There have been countless database, feature, and speed enhancements since then.


Oh, so because there's newer versions available, we should, of course, upgrade...

:wtf:

Sandwich: i don't know. that may be a concept you're not familiar with.  but with me, if something's working right, at least to the outsider, then i don't see a reason to change it.  sure you guys may be having problems behind the scenes, but i assure you that to all us regular users it seems to be working fine :)  and if you upgrade to a newer vBulletin, i'm pretty sure you'll have more problems than you have now ;)
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Cyker on July 31, 2004, 01:08:51 am
v3 doesn't work properly with my browser :)

So don't want a change!!! ;)
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Setekh on July 31, 2004, 04:08:40 am
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Originally posted by Stealth
sure you guys may be having problems behind the scenes, but i assure you that to all us regular users it seems to be working fine :)  and if you upgrade to a newer vBulletin, i'm pretty sure you'll have more problems than you have now ;)


Stealth, your sentiment is well received, but it's quite clear that not all regular users have it fine. There is a plethora of problems that users are coming up with all the time. Aside from that, as mentioned earlier, it's unlike we will upgrade to a newer vB.
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Gloriano on July 31, 2004, 04:11:20 am
Everything is fine for me......
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Black Wolf on July 31, 2004, 04:18:36 am
Are the problems you admins are referring to the frequent "Cannot Access the Database" MySQL stuff? I thought that was at gamespys end?
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Setekh on July 31, 2004, 04:25:23 am
Yeah, the MySQL errors are firmly a GS problem. Access problems are more the norm, but really all manner of stuff can go wrong.
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 31, 2004, 04:26:00 am
Yeah, I think the MySQL server shares power with the GS Board of Directors' coffee machines. :doubt:
Title: vBulletin 3.0.3?
Post by: Sandwich on August 03, 2004, 01:13:39 am
Quote
Originally posted by Stealth


Oh, so because there's newer versions available, we should, of course, upgrade...

:wtf:

Sandwich: i don't know. that may be a concept you're not familiar with.  but with me, if something's working right, at least to the outsider, then i don't see a reason to change it.  sure you guys may be having problems behind the scenes, but i assure you that to all us regular users it seems to be working fine :)  and if you upgrade to a newer vBulletin, i'm pretty sure you'll have more problems than you have now ;)


I'm bump-replying to this, because I want things to be clear - you guys deserve to know.

HLP has been having fairly major MySQL (database) problems over the past few months. If you've gotten those "Connection to server timed out" or "Too many connections" MySQL errors, that's what I'm referring to. Such errors are firmly on GameSpy's side of things - it would not matter what forum package we used (except UBB, of course, which doesn't USE a MySQL database).

The problems Setekh and I were talking about are more behind the scenes, hidden from the eyes of most of you all. Primarily, we've had an absolute ton of access mask issues - people being able to view private forums without being assigned access. To make matters worse, these issues (AFAIK) cannot be resolved via the vB control panel - according to the CP, the user access mask is generally set correctly. We've had to delve directly into the database to solve these issues.

We've also had certain isolated instances of user accounts disappearing, although this could be attributable to database corruption from the frequent server crashes.

And, to top things off, there's a bunch of stuff the staff would like to do with the forums and site, that is simply too hard to be worth it using the current forum.

So yeah, we're definitely looking into other options, both for pay (vb3) and free (IPB, phpBB). Whatever we decide on, you can be sure that it will be an improvement, even if it does take some getting used to. After all, even when you start to wear a new pair of shoes, you still tie those laces the same way. That's what we're aiming for - New Shoes for a Better HLP. ;) :p