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Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: MicroPsycho on July 31, 2004, 12:13:52 pm
The question is who do you think will win and why.
My bet is that the Humans win somehow because..well...its earth.

But this poll is between Alien and the Predators only.
Please post why you think they will or will not win.
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: jdjtcagle on July 31, 2004, 12:18:15 pm
Predators because there name is cooler :p
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Post by: karajorma on July 31, 2004, 12:25:28 pm
Preds. The humans have managed to beat the aliens 4 times.

The preds are more powerful physically and technologically.
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Post by: jdjtcagle on July 31, 2004, 12:27:18 pm
yeah, but terrans thought they were more powerful than the shivans and look where it got them, hehehe :D
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Post by: Ghostavo on July 31, 2004, 12:42:14 pm
Predators use Aliens for training... nuff said... :p
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Post by: redsniper on July 31, 2004, 12:51:25 pm
Predators have glowing green blood so they're cooler and therefore must win :p
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Fineus on July 31, 2004, 12:54:32 pm
Are we talking a great many Aliens (an entire hives worth, including Queen) vs one Predator? Or one Alien (standard type) vs one Predator?

It kinda matters...
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Carl on July 31, 2004, 01:24:20 pm
the alien civ vs. the predator civ.
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Post by: Fear on July 31, 2004, 01:29:00 pm
this is nonsense aliens doesn't exsit.Predator will win
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: vyper on July 31, 2004, 02:05:28 pm
Thanks for that Fear, glad we got that cleared up. :wtf:

Anyway, Predators. They have better armour, reflexes just as fast, and have evolved for combat for the sake of it.  They also have a far wider range of weaponry at thier disposal. Hell, an Alien would have to tear itself apart to even barely match the Pred self destruct function.
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: TopAce on July 31, 2004, 02:08:34 pm
Predators. I better like them. :p
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Fear on July 31, 2004, 02:12:51 pm
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Originally posted by vyper
Thanks for that Fear, glad we got that cleared up. :wtf:

 


porve me wrong....(predator doesnt exsit..)
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Fineus on July 31, 2004, 02:13:38 pm
Predator, grudgingly.

But if I had my way, it'd be Voltron.
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: TopAce on July 31, 2004, 02:16:01 pm
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Originally posted by Fear

porve me wrong....(predator doesnt exsit..)


It depends on how we understand a Predator. If we consider predators creatures with wristblades and plasma shoulder cannons, they don't exist. If we consider a cat a predator(and it is that), predators do exist. :D
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Post by: Fear on July 31, 2004, 02:25:24 pm
still nonsense predator does exsit. who do u think droping the presants at chirstmas?
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Post by: DragonClaw on July 31, 2004, 02:39:34 pm
Aliens deliver the presents, duh :p
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Post by: Gloriano on July 31, 2004, 02:44:11 pm
Predators in because of weaponry but but aliens in large group attack
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Fear on July 31, 2004, 03:09:52 pm
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Originally posted by DragonClaw
Aliens deliver the presents, duh :p


You are all crazy! spicially u dragonclaw! u and your bunny that keep pointing his finger at me and lough. you know where u should go? to a shrink! crazy!
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Post by: Dark_4ce on July 31, 2004, 03:18:54 pm
Predators. Rastafari alien hunters. Nuff said...
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Ghostavo on July 31, 2004, 03:21:49 pm
:wtf:

Fear?
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: jdjtcagle on July 31, 2004, 03:22:15 pm
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Originally posted by Fear


You are all crazy! spicially u dragonclaw! u and your bunny that keep pointing his finger at me and lough. you know where u should go? to a shrink! crazy!


Grammer?  :blah:
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Post by: redsniper on July 31, 2004, 04:03:00 pm
er... we know they're not real, it's a hypothetical argument. :blah:
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Post by: TopAce on July 31, 2004, 04:20:28 pm
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle


Grammer?  :blah:


Spelling? GrammAr! Just to enlighten you, not as an offence. :)

Cheers.

*skeddadles*
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Post by: Fear on July 31, 2004, 04:23:56 pm
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle


Grammer?  :blah:


Grammar?
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Post by: jdjtcagle on July 31, 2004, 04:24:51 pm
:lol:

OMG, that's funny *sleeps*
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Post by: Ford Prefect on July 31, 2004, 04:58:36 pm
Ahhnold will destroy them all with a pair of chainguns.
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Post by: Fear on July 31, 2004, 06:43:36 pm
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
:lol:

OMG, that's funny *sleeps*

i love u m8 ;7
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: jdjtcagle on July 31, 2004, 06:51:32 pm
*steps away from Fear*

:shaking:
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: MicroPsycho on July 31, 2004, 07:06:28 pm
...but the Xenomorphs are cool

There better be new xeno 'variants' such as the Predalien from AvP2 (the game). Just to make things more interesting.
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: vyper on July 31, 2004, 07:48:18 pm
You queers wanna get back to the point of who'll win?

Spoiler:
I'm a bit miffed, the trailers spoil the ending because you see a Pred self destruct blast encompass the entire pyramid
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Fear on August 01, 2004, 07:52:39 am
who are u calling queer ?
im going shoping
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Dark_4ce on August 01, 2004, 09:45:22 am
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Originally posted by vyper
You queers wanna get back to the point of who'll win?

Spoiler:
I'm a bit miffed, the trailers spoil the ending because you see a Pred self destruct blast encompass the entire pyramid
[/B]


Spoiler:
Well actually that scene is in the beggining of the movie. Before the pyramid is covered in ice. Just to give a brief glimpse into history. You can hear about it in one of the featurettes.
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Post by: Sigma957 on August 01, 2004, 10:16:25 am
The predator wins, we even see a xeno skull in that showcase in predator 2. And if all else fails.....BOOM. ;7
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Post by: vyper on August 01, 2004, 10:53:00 am
@ Dark_4ce  - Nice!
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Post by: pyro-manic on August 01, 2004, 11:51:52 am
Predator. They're soooooo much cooler, purely because they're evil buggers (the aliens don't go and de-spine people for fun...).
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: TopAce on August 01, 2004, 12:54:46 pm
Reading throught the thread and remembering the AvP games, I would say I became less confident in the Predators. Their weapons are not designed to face a large group of enemies. Their weapons are rather specialized for face-to-face duels.
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Fear on August 01, 2004, 02:17:37 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
Reading throught the thread and remembering the AvP games, I would say I became less confident in the Predators. Their weapons are not designed to face a large group of enemies. Their weapons are rather specialized for face-to-face duels.


You obviously dont know why the predator even came to earth.
the predator come to earth to be a 'man'. it came for killing the best warrior in the planet so he will become the Hunter. his goal was never to destroy a spices.

Allien is mindless ***** that  kill everything, unlike the predator , alien also kill Woman and unarmed people.

Predator goal is to be the perfect hunter. Wait for the right spot, in the right time. then he kills his victims. ofcurse if he feel threathen he will surely go wild, and probably kill everything that in sight , Though like we seen in the second movie not unarmed people.
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: vyper on August 01, 2004, 02:25:08 pm
A sense of honour perhaps.
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: pyro-manic on August 01, 2004, 02:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
Reading throught the thread and remembering the AvP games, I would say I became less confident in the Predators. Their weapons are not designed to face a large group of enemies. Their weapons are rather specialized for face-to-face duels.


Yeah, that's 'cos it's a game :p. A predator would more than likely be trained in some sort of martial art to deal with multiple enemies at short range (think the pipe fighting bit in the second matrix movie, but with a hunting spear ;)), and the pistol is pretty damn good at killing anything in the blast radius (though it fires fairly slowly).
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Fineus on August 01, 2004, 02:38:45 pm
That's speculation though - one pred vs a whole load of Aliens - the Pred would probably go down or be forced to use its self-destruct device. Aliens move faster than Predators do and also have acid for blood - close combat is right out. The Predator could twat a group of Aliens with its spear or hand-blade, but the acid would probably still play merry hell... remember that stuff is pressurised inside the Alien.

That said - one on one in the open - the Predator would win.
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Post by: magatsu1 on August 01, 2004, 02:43:59 pm
in the books Predators bred Aliens as game.
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Post by: Fractux on August 01, 2004, 02:54:04 pm
Put my vote in for the predators.

I mean, these guys hunt for sport and to be the best. And they're not just there to kill off everything.

Aliens seem to gear themselves more towards infestation and total anihilation.

A bug, or a hunter... eh,  I'll take the hunter. Besides, cloaking is just too cool. :)
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: TopAce on August 01, 2004, 02:55:58 pm
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Originally posted by Fear


You obviously dont know why the predator even came to earth.
the predator come to earth to be a 'man'. it came for killing the best warrior in the planet so he will become the Hunter. his goal was never to destroy a spices.
...


What spices? :blah:
Not species?
If you meant species, this is my comment:
Where the hell did I say they wanted to destroy humanity? I DO[/i] know they are hunters. That's the reason they are not especially good at fighting multiple enemies.[/size]
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Sigma957 on August 01, 2004, 09:12:29 pm
Predator may have other weapons beside the self destruct to deal with multiple enemies and they might also have some defense against the xeno's blood.
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Post by: jdjtcagle on August 01, 2004, 09:14:47 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce


...What spices? :blah:...
 


Don't you mean "What's species? :blah:"

:ha:  :p
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Beowulf on August 01, 2004, 11:09:31 pm
Duh, I will, since I wont waste my money on such a pathetic movie. I'll wait until it comes out on Comcast.

Ohh yeah, Aliens, of course. Silly. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Kosh on August 02, 2004, 12:43:37 am
The Predators. They have an advantage in the "coolness factor"
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Post by: Janos on August 02, 2004, 12:50:06 am
People will win, one predator will "vanish", a couple of xenomorph eggs will survive, the temple or whatever it is is "shut down", wait for sequel.

Voted Xenomorph because Predator is just an ugly mother****er, and humans < hissy demon monsters who have mouth in tongue and who start their life by grabbing dude's head, putting an egg into his stomach, groving into a giant killer worm and bursting out of his chest.
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Post by: Setekh on August 02, 2004, 03:28:24 am
Preds are artful. Gotta go for them. Dunno if I can handle to watch this movie though... think I'd be a bit freaked out. ;)
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Nico on August 02, 2004, 06:37:57 am
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Originally posted by Fear
Predator goal is to be the perfect hunter. Wait for the right spot, in the right time. then he kills his victims. ofcurse if he feel threathen he will surely go wild, and probably kill everything that in sight , Though like we seen in the second movie not unarmed people.


I suppose trying to detonate that nuke thing in the middle of Las Vegas doesn't count? :p

And for the VS thing, aliens, coz their movies are better :p
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Post by: diamondgeezer on August 02, 2004, 07:43:04 am
My approach to dealing with Xeno swarms is to just spam them with me plasmacaster (in Xeno vision mode, for rapid lock-on). It's not like you need the energy for cloaking or healing (you have no time for the latter). Should your reserves be depleted, start lashing out with yer combi-stick, it's got a suprising range on it. Save the disc for when a Praetorian inevitably jumps you ;)
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Post by: MicroPsycho on August 02, 2004, 07:14:54 pm
I wanna see a Praetorian in a movie.
....and Predaliens
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Post by: Col. Fishguts on August 03, 2004, 03:35:28 am
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Originally posted by MicroPsycho
I wanna see a Praetorian in a movie.


I think we already have. Near the end "Aliens", the 2 big buggers with "things" on their back, protecting the queen, might have been Praetorians....not sure though.

And I voted Aliens, cause they don't need no techincal gimmicks to fight. In a bare-handed fight, an Alien would probably rip a Predator to pieces.
...oh, and they look cooler.
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: TopAce on August 03, 2004, 09:02:57 am
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Originally posted by Col. Fishguts


I think we already have. Near the end "Aliens", the 2 big buggers with "things" on their back, protecting the queen, might have been Praetorians....not sure though....


Praetorians are the guardians of the Queen, so they are Praetorians for sure.
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Post by: SadisticSid on August 03, 2004, 09:09:29 am
Except Praetorians have heads that look more similar to the Queen, and those two certainly did not.
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Post by: TopAce on August 03, 2004, 09:12:13 am
I am not a native, but I as far as I know, Praetorian is a synonym for Vindicator and Guardian.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on August 03, 2004, 10:37:27 am
In the games, they would have been Praetorians. But in the film, we had only drones and the queen. So drones they were (besides - they look like drones :)). The praetorians were created by the game designers, IIRC.
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Post by: karajorma on August 03, 2004, 11:37:14 am
The praetorians appeared in the comic long before the game was even thought of.
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Post by: TopAce on August 03, 2004, 11:59:22 am
Alien comics? :wtf:
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Post by: karajorma on August 03, 2004, 12:34:01 pm
What do you think the books, and even the Aliens Vs Predator movie are based on? :D
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Post by: TopAce on August 03, 2004, 01:20:49 pm
I knew about the books(despite I did not read them), but the Alien universe is one I cannot imagine in comics.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on August 03, 2004, 04:53:06 pm
It translates very well in fact. But then
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Originally posted by TopAce
I do not read comics I am past 18 now, I think it would be a shame because of my age.

So your post isn't too suprising... believe it or not there were several Alien vs Superman comics...
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: aldo_14 on August 03, 2004, 05:13:58 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
I knew about the books(despite I did not read them), but the Alien universe is one I cannot imagine in comics.


Reading the comics would help with that.

Although aren't they technically graphic novels now?
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Post by: karajorma on August 04, 2004, 07:56:25 am
Some are graphic novels but I've got a couple which are only 20 pages or so long and thus can only be refered to as comics :)
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Post by: TopAce on August 04, 2004, 08:29:57 am
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
It translates very well in fact. But then

So your post isn't too suprising... believe it or not there were several Alien vs Superman comics...


How much time did you spend to find the post you quoted? I wrote that at least half a year ago.
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Post by: Sandwich on August 04, 2004, 08:35:09 am
Killing aliens is the Predator's bar mitzvah.
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Post by: karajorma on August 04, 2004, 09:43:12 am
*Gets a sudden mental picture of a predator on the way to the synagogue in hasidic jewish clothing*

:D
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Post by: vyper on August 04, 2004, 09:52:39 am
*has just had all cool visions of this kick ass pred destroyed*

Thanks a lot.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on August 04, 2004, 11:01:59 am
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Originally posted by TopAce
How much time did you spend to find the post you quoted? I wrote that at least half a year ago.

I spent around sixty seconds searching. You posted the statement on the 8th of May this year - less than three months ago. I remembered you posting it because it made Petrarch and I **** our pants laughing :nod:
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: MicroPsycho on August 04, 2004, 11:59:12 am
obviously an Alien/Predator 1on1 would result in a Pred victory if the Alien were a drone or a "runner" but what if that alien were a Praetorian which are much, much tougher?
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: Sandwich on August 05, 2004, 07:03:22 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma
*Gets a sudden mental picture of a predator on the way to the synagogue in hasidic jewish clothing*

:D


*looks at Photoshop icon*

Times like this I wish I had time to waste. ;)
Title: Alien vs. Predator
Post by: karajorma on August 05, 2004, 07:13:34 pm
Times like this I wish I had some skill with Photoshop :D