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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: DaBrain on August 01, 2004, 05:39:55 pm

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on August 01, 2004, 05:39:55 pm

Ok, don't blame me for being lazy in the last days, but the weather was just too good to sit at the PC ;)


I worked a bit on the support ship. (~65-70% finished)
Might take a while to complete it.
I'd like to hear your oppinion.

(http://img46.exs.cx/img46/5381/Unbenannt-4.jpg)
(http://img46.exs.cx/img46/8185/Unbenannt-5.jpg)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Taristin on August 01, 2004, 05:45:21 pm

I'd say it's coming along rather nicely. I have a few issues with the map, but it's only at 75% so I'll keep quiet, as I'm sure they'll be worked out later.

:yes::yes::yes::yes:

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Fractux on August 01, 2004, 05:46:28 pm

Very nice :) I really like what you've done with the lights.

Now I don't have to squint every time i look up when getting rearmed hehe.

Cheers!

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: karajorma on August 01, 2004, 05:48:56 pm

Wow. Just wow :D

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Psychonaut on August 01, 2004, 06:03:55 pm

Looks really nice. I like the hires cockpit shine. Looks way better. The shlightly changes in color are quite pretty, too. Nice work.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: übermetroid on August 01, 2004, 06:08:55 pm

looks good.  Very sharp, which is good.  :D

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: StratComm on August 01, 2004, 08:01:53 pm

My only comment on it, besides the usual much-improved bit, is that you've changed the ammo in the bottom where it docks to a fighter.  Those are supposed to be missiles IIRC.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Cabbie on August 01, 2004, 08:07:45 pm

the panel lines are more defined, more gritty worn out look,  looking very good so far!

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Lightspeed on August 01, 2004, 09:00:43 pm

Cool. I'll be glad to hook it up into shine2.o once it's finished :)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Bobboau on August 01, 2004, 09:28:37 pm

don't supose you'd be willing to recompile the thng, V did some nasty smoothing on that ship

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Turambar on August 01, 2004, 10:50:13 pm

I got some too!

Turambar's Herc 2 Second Try!!
(http://img69.exs.cx/img69/2289/1634.jpg)
(http://img69.exs.cx/img69/981/1635.jpg)
(http://img69.exs.cx/img69/8518/1636.jpg)
(http://img69.exs.cx/img69/8127/1637.jpg)

im back from break, did some work on nephitys and a little on ptah too

Edit: wow, it looks a lot less impressive jpeg compressed

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: jdjtcagle on August 01, 2004, 10:51:53 pm

I can barely see it... :(

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Turambar on August 01, 2004, 10:55:08 pm

I'm going to wait until my new system is done to make any new test missions, im running on my built-in intel 32 bit graphics card right now

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Beowulf on August 01, 2004, 10:57:18 pm

:yes: :yes:

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Rictor on August 01, 2004, 11:35:36 pm

I like, I like.

The support ship especially, its quite an improvement. The Herc 2 doesn't show all that much, though I'm on a darker monitor so it may be that. Keep up the good work.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Gloriano on August 02, 2004, 02:02:32 am

Sweet :)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on August 02, 2004, 04:46:31 am

Quote

Originally posted by StratComm
My only comment on it, besides the usual much-improved bit, is that you've changed the ammo in the bottom where it docks to a fighter.  Those are supposed to be missiles IIRC.

I know. It's still supposed to be missiles :wtf:


@ Turambar I can see the improvment on the herc 2. Looks like a cleaned map with redrawed lines. Now go for the detail ;)
Edit: I think you should remove the lights... The green parts in the map were not supposed to be lights.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Turambar on August 02, 2004, 08:09:35 am

the lights are nice when its all shadowed with bob's new build and all you see is the glow

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: aldo_14 on August 02, 2004, 08:16:22 am

Nice.  cockpit map needs fixed (at the edges, and specifically the alignment of the rim on the front section vs the sides)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Turambar on August 02, 2004, 09:29:36 am

close-ups!
i got some texture on this one, but i still need to redo the grill and fix some alignments.  I'm also pitching some thruster glows here

(http://img46.exs.cx/img46/7295/3467.jpg)
(http://img46.exs.cx/img46/7118/3468.jpg)
(http://img46.exs.cx/img46/3191/3469.jpg)
(http://img25.exs.cx/img25/2307/5592.jpg)
(http://img25.exs.cx/img25/1604/5594.jpg)
(http://img25.exs.cx/img25/7711/5595.jpg)
(http://img25.exs.cx/img25/2582/5596.jpg)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Lightspeed on August 02, 2004, 09:35:00 am

Well, that's definately getting there :)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Ryx on August 02, 2004, 09:52:48 am

Looks good (both of you). :)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on August 02, 2004, 10:00:54 am

Woah, what's going on on your shots Turambar ? 6 FPS ? :shaking: (How big is your map :wtf: )

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Turambar on August 02, 2004, 10:03:40 am

no, im currently on the built-in 32bit intel graphics card because my FX 5600 is currently running the display on my new rig.  I'll be running a 6800 GT once that one's up, but right now, my current graphics card is on par with a GeForce 2

Edit: the map is 1024x1024

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Bobboau on August 02, 2004, 10:37:35 am

and takeing screen shots slows things down a lot

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on August 02, 2004, 10:46:58 am

I'll release a lower res map for the mediaVP lite version.
Does a PCX map take up less Ram than a TGA one does ?

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Turambar on August 02, 2004, 10:51:23 am

(http://img4.exs.cx/img4/9791/8009.jpg)
(http://img4.exs.cx/img4/4732/8010.jpg)

grill done, now for the alignments..
any suggestions?

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: übermetroid on August 02, 2004, 12:30:35 pm

Question for you, how to you take the clean screen shots?  With no hud or anything..............  ?

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: StratComm on August 02, 2004, 12:37:24 pm

That's done with the external camera ('.' or '/' on the numeric pad, though I can't remember which one's for the chase cam and which actually takes you to external view.  Though I think there is a way to take a clean screenshot, it doesn't come to mind right now.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: karajorma on August 02, 2004, 01:08:12 pm

Alt-pause. You can go outside and take pics from any angle you like.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Col. Fishguts on August 02, 2004, 01:46:10 pm

There's a new key to turn off the HUD, "Shift-O" IIRC

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Lightspeed on August 02, 2004, 02:37:20 pm

Quote

Originally posted by DaBrain
I'll release a lower res map for the mediaVP lite version.
Does a PCX map take up less Ram than a TGA one does ?

Yes, because FS2open only supports PCX files with 256 colours.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on August 02, 2004, 02:53:27 pm

But if I use "-pcx32 -jpgtga", it makes no difference, right ?

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Taristin on August 02, 2004, 06:12:13 pm

pcx32 is crap. it just uses more memory, it doesn't enable 32-bit pcx's.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Lightspeed on August 02, 2004, 06:21:31 pm

pcx32 owns. It allows each PCX to have its own palette - resulting with an incredible increase in visual quality for interface graphics. It does NOT, however, allow 32-bit PCX files (which technically isn't even possible becuase PCX doesnt support alpha channels).

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Taristin on August 02, 2004, 06:24:32 pm

It's a memory hog. The slowdown is far greater than the 'improved visuals' recieved...

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on August 02, 2004, 06:32:31 pm

Well, I know FS2_open doesn't support 32-bit PCX files.
But I thought -pcx32 would load them into memory in 32-bit colors.


This line was described quite good somewhere. I just can't find it...

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Taristin on August 02, 2004, 06:44:56 pm

That is how it is. PCX32 loads pcx's into 32-bit memory. But the performance hit is not worth the gain, most of the time.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Turambar on August 02, 2004, 10:03:01 pm

http://www.swooh.com/peon/Turambar/Maps/Herc2/fighter2t-02a.tga
http://www.swooh.com/peon/Turambar/Maps/Herc2/fighter2t-02a-glow.tga
my herc 2 maps are right here, so you guys can use them if you want, or you can wait for a Lightspeed/DaBrain revision

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: übermetroid on August 03, 2004, 01:01:38 am

Quote

Originally posted by Col. Fishguts
There's a new key to turn off the HUD, "Shift-O" IIRC

Ah!  Thanks!
(http://swooh.com/peon/ubermetroid/pics/lucyengines.jpg)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: karajorma on August 03, 2004, 05:29:29 am

Quote

Originally posted by Raa
That is how it is. PCX32 loads pcx's into 32-bit memory. But the performance hit is not worth the gain, most of the time.

Not to mention that some people like me get a bug where by all the buttons move left and up one pixel leaving a blue line behind.

Might as well replace everything with TGA versions. Oh. That's what this thread is alll about :D

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Turambar on August 09, 2004, 11:04:14 am

so how is the herc 2 coming,  will DaBrain be editing it or will LS just do shinemaps for it?

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on August 10, 2004, 11:16:37 am

I'm still working (well, ok I'm uhm taking a break...?) on the support ship. The weather is still good, so I don't feel like sitting in front of my PC ;)

Title: Map preview
Post by: DaBrain on September 04, 2004, 03:57:08 am

I wonder if I can finish it today... Somehow it still looks like much work.

If you want any changes, tell me now. It might be the last chance.

(I'll work on the lines, and on the pipes(or what ever it's supposed to be ;7. The biggest pipe-part is already done.)

Both images 80% quality.

You can already use it if you want to.

(80% quality, old, bicubical risized)
(http://img74.exs.cx/img74/3108/support1.jpg)

(80% quality, new. Most parts done.)
(http://img74.exs.cx/img74/3817/support1_90.jpg)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Singh on September 04, 2004, 04:38:53 am

whoa - dude - now THAT is a visible improvement right there.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Lightspeed on September 04, 2004, 04:58:09 am

As soon as you're done, i'll add it to my builds - will be bundled with next friday's release :)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on September 04, 2004, 06:05:47 am

Sure, I'd love to see it with your shine maps.


I'm afraid I'm putting too much effort in each single map. It just takes to long to finish them...

Well, I think it's ok for the support ship, as you see it very often, and close ups too. :)

Quote

Originally posted by Lightspeed
- will be bundled with next friday's release :)

So I'll take my time, rushing things now would just reduce the quality.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on November 03, 2004, 08:51:55 am

Big Update:

Hygeia 100% done (map, shinemap, glowmap)

Download (http://swooh.com/peon/DaBrain/support1.rar)

On the way to Lightspeed now, so it can be included in his next shinmap release.

(Sorry, the shot is rather bad)
(http://img16.exs.cx/img16/8098/hy6.jpg)
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(http://img16.exs.cx/img16/8420/hygeia1.jpg)
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(http://img16.exs.cx/img16/9350/hygeia2.jpg)
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(http://img16.exs.cx/img16/1571/hygeia3.jpg)
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(http://img74.exs.cx/img74/3108/support1.jpg)

(http://img16.exs.cx/img16/3108/support1.jpg)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on November 03, 2004, 08:54:31 am

Boanerges NEW ~25%

(http://img73.exs.cx/img73/8411/gtb2.jpg)

(http://img8.exs.cx/img8/2071/gtb2_2.jpg)
(http://img8.exs.cx/img8/6315/gtb2_stock.jpg)




Orion UPDATE 75% (maps, shinemaps, glowmaps]

Originally intended to be used only for cutscenes. So I have to fix some tile problems.

(http://img16.exs.cx/img16/8029/orion1.jpg)

(http://img16.exs.cx/img16/7813/orion4.jpg)

(http://img16.exs.cx/img16/1968/orion3.jpg)


Edit: Sorry for double posting, but I not allowed to post this many pics at once.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Lightspeed on November 03, 2004, 09:17:40 am

Oh, I'll fix up those Orion texxies for in-game use once you have them ready :)

I have the Hygeia maps - I'll do some minor improvements before I include them, though.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on November 03, 2004, 09:37:54 am

Sure, if it's not the red (or blue) lines. ;) They are not visible on the model.

Edit: And btw I'm not whether I should work on the Orion maps, cause we could texture the unwraped high poly Orion...
That is preferable performance-wise.


Edit: Release and updates on page two!

Title: Update
Post by: DaBrain on November 04, 2004, 10:14:17 am

Here the Orion maps, which are already complete.
The other maps will follow. (Don't know how long it will take though)

Download (http://swooh.com/peon/DaBrain/Orion.rar)

No shots. As they look exactly as in the last pictures.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Lightspeed on November 04, 2004, 10:39:31 am

Good work :D

Will fix those things up for the next release :)

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on November 04, 2004, 12:24:58 pm

Note: One of them is completly new. A redraw. ;)
These two have no tile problems.

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Woolie Wool on November 04, 2004, 02:11:26 pm

:eek2: Magnefique!

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: freespace2pilot on November 05, 2004, 12:18:44 am

the head on booster shot really looks daunting...
also thruster glo mayb a little too bright/big there - it gets to the stage where it stops looking powerful and just ends up obscuring the rest of the model

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: DaBrain on November 05, 2004, 03:23:07 am

I don't really get which picture you're talking about. (And which model ;) )

Title: Revival: DaBrains High Res WIPs (image heavy!)
Post by: Setekh on November 05, 2004, 04:35:58 am

Looking fantastic, guys. :)