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Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Goober5000 on August 05, 2004, 12:38:59 pm
Just curious.  There are checkboxes here, because you have to mark one choice on each axis: authoritarian-libertarian and liberal-conservative.

/me = libertarian conservative

Oh, and don't confuse liberal with libertarian.  If you're not familiar with the two-axis system, Google (http://www.google.com/) it or look here (http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html) or here (http://www.politicalcompass.org).
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Rictor on August 05, 2004, 12:59:13 pm
oh c'mon, don't you think we've had enough of these?
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: beatspete on August 05, 2004, 04:59:50 pm
Well I find the 2 axis views more interesting.  But we've definatly had this before.

I'm a left Authoritarian.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Grey Wolf on August 05, 2004, 05:01:32 pm
Centralist iberal/libertarian.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Blaise Russel on August 05, 2004, 05:28:53 pm
Left libertarian.

Libertarians rock.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Deepblue on August 05, 2004, 05:37:26 pm
Hijacker...

:p
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: karajorma on August 05, 2004, 05:46:16 pm
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Originally posted by Blaise Russel
Left libertarian.

Libertarians rock.


:yes: Yes. We do.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Sandwich on August 05, 2004, 07:23:31 pm
Where do you classify "kill 'em all!"?
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Rictor on August 05, 2004, 07:41:29 pm
anywhere extremely authoritarian. either left or right will do.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Solatar on August 05, 2004, 07:48:42 pm
Heavy Metal.:p

I'm supposedly a Left Libertarian. I'll screw with this stuff when I'm older.:nervous:
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: moddy on August 05, 2004, 08:58:11 pm
I am a libertarian, which means I am classic liberal :)

And for those down there, are you left-libertarians or liberals???

For, if you are left-libertarians you are most likely eco-libertarians or something like it...
I don't quite understand your term ;)
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Rictor on August 05, 2004, 09:04:08 pm
strictly speaking, left libertarians are probably anarchists, that being a combination of socialism and libertarianism.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Ghostavo on August 05, 2004, 09:12:24 pm
authoritarian liberal :nervous:
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Nuke on August 05, 2004, 10:49:56 pm
i choose not to participate in this poll because it only covers 2 axes of political beliefs.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: GoulMeister on August 05, 2004, 10:58:20 pm
I myself have political ideas that combine both liberal and conservative views, as well as others like socialism,communsim,facsim. democratic only, i dont believe in dictators or communism, but i also hate globilisation as in the end the compaines will own us.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Setekh on August 06, 2004, 01:59:27 am
Hey GoulMeister, welcome to HLP. :)

:welcome:
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Knight Templar on August 06, 2004, 02:35:30 am
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=-4.12&Y=-4.67

me.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: moddy on August 06, 2004, 06:27:31 am
@Goulmaster, that's really a wicked combination :D and it must have more contradictions in it than one could possibly fathom :)

well, they wouldn't be left libertarians, but left-anarchist, would they?

For Libertarians are usually right-winged and liberals are the left-winged sort... Although you normally classify liberals as soft-socialists....
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Goober5000 on August 06, 2004, 11:25:22 am
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Originally posted by Nuke
i choose not to participate in this poll because it only covers 2 axes of political beliefs.
:wtf: And the third axis would be...?
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Rictor on August 06, 2004, 01:05:03 pm
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Originally posted by GoulMeister
I myself have political ideas that combine both liberal and conservative views, as well as others like socialism,communsim,facsim. democratic only, i dont believe in dictators or communism, but i also hate globilisation as in the end the compaines will own us.


yeah, I can agree with that. I am suportive of the right to own private property, but don't want to see the multinationals ruling the world, since corporations are in effect unaccountable tyrannies.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: pyro-manic on August 06, 2004, 01:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rictor


yeah, I can agree with that. I am suportive of the right to own private property, but don't want to see the multinationals ruling the world, since corporations are in effect unaccountable tyrannies.


You don't think we're already there? Christ, all the major political parties are tonsil-deep in some corporation's rectum as it stands, and I can't see it getting better any time soon (you can't change the law because you're not in government, and you can't get into government without being in the pocket of the people you're trying to turn the law against!). As I see it, all lobbyists should be shot, and no-one holding public office should be allowed to have associations with any profit-making organisation, on pain of pain...

I dunno about my political stance. I'm definitely left-wing, leaning towards socialist, but the finer details I'm none-too-sure about. My ideal societal structure would be something like that of the Culture (from Iain M. Banks' sci-fi books), but that's about as feasible as a chocolate teapot - given the state of our species at the moment....:blah:
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: karajorma on August 06, 2004, 02:17:18 pm
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Originally posted by Goober5000
:wtf: And the third axis would be...?


Sane - Insane ;)
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: pyro-manic on August 06, 2004, 02:27:24 pm
KT: Thanks for the link! Though some of those statements were slightly obtuse...

Here's me. (http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=-6.25&Y=-6.00)

Hmm, that's more extreme than I thought! I'm comparable to Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Llama! :cool:
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Nuke on August 07, 2004, 07:01:12 pm
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Originally posted by Goober5000
:wtf: And the third axis would be...?


well theres always another axis, look at string theory, it just took someone to look for em thats all. well ya got the ecinomical axis, the social axis, how about the morality axis, fundamentalisim vs civil rights.

as fot the two axis thing i share ghandi's spot :D
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Rictor on August 07, 2004, 08:24:10 pm
there is the economic axis, thats Left-Right, then there is the liberty axis, thats Authoritarian-Libertarian...so what else...conflict resolution (war and peace) is pretty much covered on the second axis.

I guess you could have a cultural axis, going from Conservative to Progressive. Though that would only apply to yourself, since your willingness to impose that on other people is measured on the second axis.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Nuke on August 07, 2004, 10:54:58 pm
why stop with three axes, i want at least 5 :D
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Rictor on August 07, 2004, 11:04:27 pm
how about one for cheese?
cheese lovers, Frenchmen for example, can be on one end of the secptrum, while cheese haters, lets say cannibals and vegans, get the other end.

I think that political science would be greatly advanced if we only we analyzed the significance of cheese in international affairs. There would be no more war, we civilized cheese-lover would finally be united against those filthy cheese-hating scoundrels.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: karajorma on August 08, 2004, 03:19:44 am
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Originally posted by Rictor
there is the economic axis, thats Left-Right, then there is the liberty axis, thats Authoritarian-Libertarian...so what else...conflict resolution (war and peace) is pretty much covered on the second axis.


I was semi-serious about sanity being the third axis as it's completely independant of the other two and it does affect politics. The actions of an sane right wing authoritarian are pretty different from those of an insane one. :D
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Ace on August 08, 2004, 03:32:46 am
The third axis should be the:
AXIS OF EVIL!™

;)

Edit- Thanks.
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Sandwich on August 08, 2004, 03:44:13 pm
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Originally posted by Ace
AXIS OF EVIL!(tm)

;)


NumLock = on

Hold down ALT and type 0153 on the number keypad: ™
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Knight Templar on August 09, 2004, 02:32:02 am
You tell em, Sandiwich!
Title: Two-axis political beliefs poll
Post by: Sandwich on August 12, 2004, 03:37:50 am
Hmm. Just tried it w/o numlock - works. :p