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Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: TopAce on August 07, 2004, 08:16:04 am: I fought my way through Silent threat(The FS2 Port version one) without any cheats on Medium and Easy until the last mission. In the last mission, all my wingmen die so quickly that they are even unable to take down the Arcadia. I am left on my complete own to destroy the Arcadia. I had enough of it and I activated cheats(I was outnumbered 6 to 1). I turned invulnerability on and I destroyed the station and all the fighters. After, the Hades jumps in, so does GTA reinforcements. The reinforcements I get are ALSO vaporized so quickly. I am on my complete own again, against a trmemndous amount of fighters and the Hades herself. I think it is an overkill. Is Silent threat like this by default, so did the Port guys did something wrong in the mission conversion?

[EDIT] I mistyped Silent threat. Thanks to Goober for quoting it.
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Night Hammer on August 07, 2004, 10:07:27 am: Nope, that pretty much happens in the real deal too, those pilots all seem to be morons
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Post by: Swamp_Thing on August 07, 2004, 10:22:18 am: I finished that mission just yesterday. And became really pissed when i found it was the end of the campaign...:hopping:
I made it in medium difficulty. I found that the best way to pass it is to forget about the station and the Hades, and focus on the fighters. Protect your bombers, they are vital. I managed to destroy the station just when Hades was jumping in. Then i told the bombers to kill it, and i placed myself near the fighterbay, waiting for the Lokis comming out. It was easy. Really important too, is to save the cruiser. When the cavalry jumps in, a squad of bombers launches from the Hades to kill it. Take them out. If you follow the game´s auto-targeting, you will only kill Lokis. Look for bombers once in a while, because they kill the cruiser in just a few seconds. If you save the cruiser, he will place himself above the Hades fighterbay, and rain fire on them as they come out!
;7

I used a bomber at first, and kept loosing. Then i changed for the Valkyrie, and it all runned smoothlly!
My score in that mission was 49 kills!
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Swamp_Thing on August 07, 2004, 10:30:59 am: Oh btw, there is a sequence for the Loki fighters to come out. They come out in groups of five (or six?), and if you kill about 60% of them, a new wing will launch. The more you kill, the more they launch. If you can jerk around with the last two fighters, without killing them, but preventing them from attacking your bombers, you won´t have to deal with so many fighters, and kill the Hades.
As soon as you kill another fighter, a new wing will launch, and you will be up to wazooo in fighters!
Kill them quickly. Draw them out away from the bombers, and use your afterburners! You need to be quick about it!

;)
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: jdjtcagle on August 07, 2004, 11:51:39 am: Sounds like you got it figured out ;)

Good for you, I always had to kill it myself :p
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Hippo on August 07, 2004, 11:59:10 am: Hey TopAce... just FYI, now that you've used cheats in a cmapaign, you won't be able to progress any more...
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Fear on August 07, 2004, 12:29:06 pm: i hate silent threat it made my hate fs1/2 for a while.
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: capsfan9803 on August 07, 2004, 12:43:59 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Hippo
Hey TopAce... just FYI, now that you've used cheats in a cmapaign, you won't be able to progress any more...

I don't know if there's something wrong with my copy of the game (or maybe something...right?;7 ) but i have never been stopped from advancing in a campaign because i used cheats. Does this happen to anyone else?
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Hippo on August 07, 2004, 12:48:29 pm: http://www.descent-freespace.com/cheats/fs1/

[q]Plus, you can enable the debug keys by entering www.volition-inc.com while playing the game (single-player only of course), however you can not advance to the next mission then anymore. The following debug keys are available, which you have to press along with the ~ key [/q]

It affects me... it has for 8 years now...
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: capsfan9803 on August 07, 2004, 12:57:32 pm: No, i mean does anyone have the case where it doesn't affect their campaign when they use cheats.
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Goober5000 on August 07, 2004, 03:31:51 pm: Hippo: That rule is only for FS1, not FS2.
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Hippo on August 07, 2004, 03:38:27 pm: Yes, I know, but we've ben talking about FS1... At least, noone mentioned the port...
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Goober5000 on August 07, 2004, 10:28:18 pm: Yes they did. :p
Quote
Originally posted by TopAce
I fought my way through Sulent threat(The FS2 Port version one)
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: redsniper on August 07, 2004, 10:31:16 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Hippo
It affects me... it has for 8 years now...

:wtf: 8 years. How is that possible if FS1 only came out 6 years ago?
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Bri_Dog on August 07, 2004, 11:45:03 pm: Silent Threat port is finished!? Is this Reborn we're talking about?
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Trivial Psychic on August 07, 2004, 11:48:44 pm: Here's to the yet-to-be-released Silent Threat: Reborn, which will rescue the original from its mediocre half-assed incarnation!
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Goober5000 on August 07, 2004, 11:49:42 pm: The original Silent Threat has been ported. Silent Threat: Reborn is still in development.
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Bri_Dog on August 08, 2004, 12:18:21 am: Quote
Originally posted by Goober5000
The original Silent Threat has been ported. Silent Threat: Reborn is still in development.

Ah, I see.

Thanks
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Ory'hara on August 08, 2004, 01:58:38 am: I always thought that cheats make it so you can't progress in Fs2. I read it up on the Freespace homepage. I beat the game without cheats so I replayed levels with cheats. :D But I had to redo the entire campaign because of the comp messing up on me. BUt, using a trainer, I made it to the Bation level before for some reason my progress was lost. No, I didn't switch campaigns.
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Hippo on August 08, 2004, 06:57:38 am: redsniper:, and to my mistake... I looked at one of the early table comments that said 1998, and added wrong...
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: TopAce on August 08, 2004, 07:22:13 am: Why is cheating a problem? I have nowhere to proceed in the last mission.
Title: Question about silent threat
Post by: Ory'hara on August 08, 2004, 11:09:09 am: Yeah, I was about to ask that question but forgot it. :p