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Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Thorn on August 08, 2004, 03:58:53 pm
http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2004/08/08/f202.raw.html

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Olympian struggle
Fans face boot for eating or drinking wrong brands at games

By MARK FRANCHETTI / The Sunday Times

In a far cry from the high-minded ideals of humanity and tolerance embodied by the Olympics, the organizers of the Athens games have warned spectators that they could be barred for taking a surreptitious sip of Pepsi or an illicit bite from a Burger King Whopper.

Strict regulations published by Athens 2004 last week dictate that spectators may be refused admission to events if they are carrying food or drinks made by companies that did not see fit to sponsor the games.

Sweltering sports fans who seek refuge from the soaring temperatures with a soft drink other than one made by Coca-Cola will be told to leave the banned refreshment at the gates or be shut out. High on the list of blacklisted beverages is Pepsi, but even the wrong bottle of water could land spectators in trouble.

Fans will be allowed into the Olympic complex if they are drinking Avra, a Greek mineral water owned by Coca-Cola, which paid $60 million US for the privilege of being one of the main sponsors. Officials are under orders not to let in rival brands' bottles unless the labels are removed.

Staff will also be on the lookout for T-shirts, hats and bags displaying the unwelcome logos of non-sponsors. Stewards have been trained to detect people who may be wearing merchandise from the sponsors' rivals in the hope of catching the eyes of television audiences. Those arousing suspicion will be required to wear their T-shirts inside out.

Known as the "clean venue policy," the rules were drawn up by the Greeks and the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to shield sponsors from so-called "ambush marketing" - an attempt to advertise items during the games without paying sponsorship fees.

The restrictions on food and drink are intended to ensure that only items made by official sponsors such as McDonald's and two Greek dairy firms are consumed at Olympic venues.

An official familiar with the restrictions said: "We have to protect official sponsors who have paid millions to make the Olympics happen. There will be cases of individual spectators being allowed in wearing a T-shirt bearing the logo of a rival sports brand but anyone who tries to practise ambush marketing will be removed."

This will also apply to members of a crowd sitting next to each other wearing clothing with letters that spell out a political or religious message.

The restrictions, which have drawn criticism from Amnesty International, are even harsher for the thousands of stewards and volunteers working at Athens 2004 who have been supplied with uniforms but no shoes.

"We have to provide our own shoes and we were told that we shouldn't wear trainers with a bright logo from a sports brand which is not an official sponsor like Adidas," said one.

The main sponsors of the games have paid more than $1 billion in total for exclusive advertising rights and privileges, including the use of the Olympic logo under their brand names. It is not even possible to buy a ticket to the Olympics using a credit card other than Visa, which paid more than $30 million for its exclusive rights.

Other brands can display small logos if they are sponsoring a national team or an individual athlete, but official sponsors have turned some of the games' most famous names into walking billboards.

The image of Michael Phelps, the American swimmer aiming to win seven gold medals, has even appeared on Visa cards. All American medal winners are required to wear an Adidas outfit on the podium, according to the company's sponsorship contract with the U.S. Olympic Committee.

Kostas Giannis, a Greek sports fan, said: "I don't see why, after all the money that Greek taxpayers will end up paying to host the games, McDonald's should dictate what I can eat in my own city."



Now I know why all those people were against the Olympic bid for the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: redsniper on August 08, 2004, 04:11:39 pm
that's. just. wrong.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Bri_Dog on August 08, 2004, 04:26:59 pm
Another reason why I think the Olympics are bull****
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: karajorma on August 08, 2004, 04:31:33 pm
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By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing... kill yourself. No, no, no it's just a little thought. I'm just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they'll take root - I don't know. You try, you do what you can. Kill yourself. Seriously though, if you are, do. Aaah, no really, there's no rationalisation for what you do and you are Satan's little helpers. Okay - kill yourself - seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No this is not a joke, you're going, "there's going to be a joke coming," there's no ****ing joke coming. You are Satan's spawn filling the world with bile and garbage.

- Bill Hicks on the subject of marketing


Pretty much sums up my feeling on this topic.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on August 08, 2004, 04:32:36 pm
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Originally posted by Bri_Dog
the Olympics are bull****


word
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Rictor on August 08, 2004, 04:32:37 pm
All hail the our corporate masters, the new high priests and reigning oligarchs of our civilization!
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: vyper on August 08, 2004, 04:32:38 pm
Coca Cola...  That's it, ban those ****ers from ANYTHING outside the US continent.

In addition, kill the Olympics Committee for allowing this.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: aldo_14 on August 08, 2004, 04:37:30 pm
What in the name of ****?  That's insane..........

(er, not a reference to the above post :D )
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Rictor on August 08, 2004, 04:37:43 pm
I wonder if the [l]small[/l] large army of US and Greek soldiers will be on hand to enforce this policy.

Lock and load, I think we got a Pepsi drinker. Alpha team, cut him off, Delta, you take the tank. Snipers, look sharp, I think we got a trouble-maker here.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: vyper on August 08, 2004, 04:41:51 pm
He'll be moved to a freedom of drinking zone Rictor.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Aspa on August 08, 2004, 04:43:44 pm
If you watch sports on TV or spend money on sports effects - this is your fault, this is what you get.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Rictor on August 08, 2004, 04:48:02 pm
Well, the Olympics are supposed to embody something more than corporate advertising. Its supposed to be about human unity and cooperation and sportsmanship and all that.

This is just too far. And its not an isolated incident, its all over the place.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Rictor on August 08, 2004, 04:51:43 pm
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Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: aldo_14 on August 08, 2004, 04:57:27 pm
Will the IOC be running urine tests to make sure athletes haven't been drinking Pepsi?  (or just bottling the stuff and selling it as Coca-Cola 'natural')

Either way, they're taking the piss.......
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: beatspete on August 08, 2004, 06:07:59 pm
I'm glad I can't be arsed watching the Olympics.

I just hope it doesn't disrupt the TV schedule for Neighbours, like crappy Wimbledon did.  How is anybody supposed to go 2 weeks without their favourite soap?
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Turnsky on August 08, 2004, 09:26:44 pm
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Originally posted by beatspete
I'm glad I can't be arsed watching the Olympics.

I just hope it doesn't disrupt the TV schedule for Neighbours, like crappy Wimbledon did.  How is anybody supposed to go 2 weeks without their favourite soap?


you watched...an australian soap....that nieghbours? :p

but yeah, the olympics is too trite these days..  it used to be with the original olympics.. "this olympics, brought to you by zeus, the god of gods" :p

i loathe the commercialised world as much as anybody else, they spoil what should be fun for all involved.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: redsniper on August 08, 2004, 09:57:12 pm
The only cool thing about this year's Olympics is that when they run the marathon it's THE marathon :D
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on August 08, 2004, 11:25:54 pm
What really makes the Olympics disgusting is the fact that the use of drugs is almost a public secret. And all the time I see advertisements on TV with Nelson Mandela or some other public figure saying how great the Olympics are and how they promote the goodwill for all humankind :rolleyes:
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Knight Templar on August 09, 2004, 02:18:03 am
Corporate Whorism got to Greece too? NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Bobboau on August 09, 2004, 04:32:01 am
well thankfully this will all backfire on them when athens gets nuked and scorched coke labels are forever assosiated with thermonuclear genocide.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Gloriano on August 09, 2004, 06:11:20 am
that is just very wrong....
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: karajorma on August 09, 2004, 06:52:52 am
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Originally posted by Lt.Cannonfodder
What really makes the Olympics disgusting is the fact that the use of drugs is almost a public secret. And all the time I see advertisements on TV with Nelson Mandela or some other public figure saying how great the Olympics are and how they promote the goodwill for all humankind :rolleyes:


I've said this before. There should be two olympics. A normal one and a drug assisted one. That way there is none of this whining about "It was in the cough medicine I took" etc. IF you're found with drugs in your system you have to compete in the drug assisted one. No excuses.

I for one would mind this as by next olympics you'd be seeing people running the 100m in 5 seconds :D
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: IPAndrews on August 09, 2004, 08:11:09 am
The Olympics just need to get with the times and recognise the reality that most of the (successful) competitors are doped up to the eye balls. On the other hand they do seem to have brought themselves up to date regarding corporate childishness. Which is to be commended.
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Post by: SadisticSid on August 09, 2004, 08:47:42 am
Pfeh, if there was any doubt about favour trading in the IOC then this puts on the concrete shoes and tosses it off the nearest cliff.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Singh on August 09, 2004, 09:43:51 am
This is just..........scary
If corporatism has reached this far to greece....its coming for us in the east next O_O
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: aldo_14 on August 09, 2004, 12:58:45 pm
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Originally posted by IPAndrews
The Olympics just need to get with the times and recognise the reality that most of the (successful) competitors are doped up to the eye balls. On the other hand they do seem to have brought themselves up to date regarding corporate childishness. Which is to be commended.


I'm all for introducing the wacky olympics, where the athletes (read : pincushions) are allowed to dope themselves up to the eyeballs with whatver kerayzee concoctions they can find
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Nuke on August 09, 2004, 10:12:09 pm
im suprised crack smoking cotests arent an offitial event.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: Knight Templar on August 10, 2004, 12:02:55 am
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Originally posted by karajorma


I've said this before. There should be two olympics. A normal one and a drug assisted one. That way there is none of this whining about "It was in the cough medicine I took" etc. IF you're found with drugs in your system you have to compete in the drug assisted one. No excuses.

I for one would mind this as by next olympics you'd be seeing people running the 100m in 5 seconds :D


Pff, I could do that with a cup of joe and some tylenol. :p
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: icespeed on August 10, 2004, 12:29:24 am
i read somewhere that in the original olympics, 'peace and brotherhood and all that stuff' wasn't one of the important things. the important thing was to be the winner, and everyone else were losers, and so the athletes did whatever they could to be the winner. including cheat, bribe, blackmail- whatever works. so i don't think it's too different with all the drug stuff happening now.
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: aldo_14 on August 10, 2004, 04:11:34 am
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Originally posted by icespeed
i read somewhere that in the original olympics, 'peace and brotherhood and all that stuff' wasn't one of the important things. the important thing was to be the winner, and everyone else were losers, and so the athletes did whatever they could to be the winner. including cheat, bribe, blackmail- whatever works. so i don't think it's too different with all the drug stuff happening now.


There was a traditional truce that took place over the games, though.

Albeit a fair few of the 'sports' themselves were lethal.....
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: 01010 on August 10, 2004, 11:44:32 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14

Albeit a fair few of the 'sports' themselves were lethal.....


Lion wrestling...
Title: What little faith I had in the Olympic Games is now gone.
Post by: StratComm on August 10, 2004, 12:17:59 pm
Or chariot racing.  People don't realize just how lethal that sport can be.

Actually the whole truce thing was no more true then than it is today.  There's even records that show an invading army actually taking the field in which the games were held, with the spectators critiquing soldiers' combat techniques from the sidelines.