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Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Tolwyn on August 10, 2004, 08:26:20 pm
The teaser trailer the WC Saga team did last year's CIC Birthday was met with good feedback, but the biggest criticism was that there wasn't any plot to go with the FX, it was just a bunch of gameplay footage. Well, that's going to change starting now.

    This is the new Wing Commander Saga teaser trailer, with a strong emphasis on our flagship campaign, set in the events of Wing Commander 3. We made cutscenes and dialogue in a style that was of the Wing Commander 3 teaser trailer from way back.

    Stuff to say upfront: with the exception of the very last scene, everything is straight from the in-game engine. All the voices have been recorded by Saga voice actors and not ripped from Freespace 2. Music is just for trailer purposes only, it won't be in the actual game.

DOWNLOAD (//ftp://ftp.wcnews.com/files/mods/wing_commander_saga_teaser_trailer.rar)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: jdjtcagle on August 10, 2004, 08:33:41 pm
Hey, that's pretty cool :)

I've never played WC but, I've heard wonderful things though :)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Gloriano on August 11, 2004, 01:15:08 am
Sweet *Download...!! :)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Gasaraki on August 11, 2004, 03:08:39 am
That was a nice movie. Can't wait for the demo :)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Ypoknons on August 11, 2004, 10:08:57 am
The voice acting is really high quality. :) I love the part where the actor says "...I knew nothing about war...". Still can't get over the SCP's new additions to the engine; spec looks really cool on the ships.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Tolwyn on August 11, 2004, 10:47:52 am
We should newsify this me thinks :D
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: karajorma on August 11, 2004, 11:59:54 am
Looks damn good.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Col. Fishguts on August 12, 2004, 03:58:15 am
Very neat...took me a while to realize that the exploding station at the beginning is actually ingame.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Lightspeed on August 14, 2004, 11:33:59 am
I think the Kilrathi ships could do with (severely) darker and more distinct shinemaps, and (as I already mentioned in the other thread) get rid of that ugly pixelated explosion.

Aside from that, it's looking pretty cool  :D

-edit:

As for

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try recording a ingame video with a current SCP build, then you will have frame rate problems too


I normally dont even have to go to 1/4, 1/2 will do for a steady framerate in most cases.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: IceFire on August 14, 2004, 06:30:26 pm
GREAT trailer!  Well done guys!
Title: Kudos...
Post by: Getter Robo G on August 15, 2004, 12:22:05 am
I liked the first trailer, but this one I LOVE!
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Tolwyn on August 15, 2004, 10:43:24 am
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
I normally dont even have to go to 1/4, 1/2 will do for a steady framerate in most cases.


I am not using a negative time compression at all. But new scp builds suck all power from my pc... and it is not slow by any means :(
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Sigma957 on August 16, 2004, 01:38:50 am
Wow, nice one :yes:
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: DaBrain on August 16, 2004, 05:04:30 am
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
I think the Kilrathi ships could do with (severely) darker and more distinct shinemaps, and (as I already mentioned in the other thread) get rid of that ugly pixelated explosion.
 


I agree with the kilrathi map.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you guys use these explosions, because you are trying to make WC:Saga stand-alone.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Lynx on August 16, 2004, 12:54:41 pm
Some of the Kilrathi ships may not be shinemapped at all and use the default texture since many of our models are still WIP. And, the Kilrathi ship have a rather bright copper colored hull. Or do you just mean that the shine effect is too strong.

And we are using the explosions because we want to make WCS as different to the original FS2 as possible, we try replace every single effect of stock FS2 to make the game feel as unique as possible. Plus I'm sick of seeing the same boring orange explosions all the time. The OTT explosions would be perfect if it wasn't for the ugly color fading(****ing damn ani color limitations). They are very colorful(the colors change from yellow to white to orange to a dark brown) and they look very powerful compared to the stock FS explosions: at first a blinding flash of light erupts from the ship, and then the rest of the explosion fades out-perfect for capship explosions. and the white cloud explsion animation thingie looks cool (only disturbing thing is the ugly color fading again) to at capship explosions, since it's a lot longer than the explosion file mentioned above, and it looks as if the gaseous rest of the mayhem is slowly dissolving. Now if the color fading would be better and the shockwaves would be blue, I'd be a happy man.

Another thing that ticks me of is the standard FS missile explosion.ani. It takes long to dissolve and is dark orange which makes it look very weak. If you are escorting a ship and don't look at the escort display, it's easy to miss if it gets hit by a bomb since of this unspectacular explosion. That's why I'm working on a special impact explosion for the torpedoes for example. When something gets hit you won't see this puny explsion but rather a white hot flash of light followed by an explosion cloud dissolving. Now you definitly get it when a capship gets hit, since half of it will get consumed by a blinding flash, as it fits for an anitmatter warhead.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: gevatter Lars on August 16, 2004, 01:14:30 pm
White flash explosion..mh reminds me of the Wing Commander movie ^_^
About blue shockwave...do you mean the on I am working on or do you mean the current...I think I got a blue on somewhere...if we mean the same.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Styxx on August 17, 2004, 12:44:11 pm
Cool stuff - highlighted!
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Starman01 on August 17, 2004, 01:28:31 pm
Excellent  :)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Bobboau on August 17, 2004, 10:10:36 pm
have you guys tried out the 3d shockwaves?
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Ashrak on August 18, 2004, 03:53:36 am
inferno explosions :p


well i might download it someday :)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Tolwyn on August 18, 2004, 05:53:13 am
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Originally posted by Ashrak
inferno explosions :p


well i might download it someday :)


actually this are OTT explosions
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Lynx on August 19, 2004, 01:41:44 pm
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Originally posted by Bobboau
have you guys tried out the 3d shockwaves?


Yeah. i didn't like 3d shockwaves in WC Prophecy, and I still don't like 'em.:p

(That said, I only tried out the first builds with it. I shoul look at them again some time)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Setekh on August 20, 2004, 10:11:10 pm
Downloading now... heh, sorry for being so slow. ;)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Moonsword on August 21, 2004, 04:24:10 pm
It's understandable, what with everything that's been going on around you lately, man.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Setekh on August 21, 2004, 05:56:16 pm
Heh, I guess. Still, I really enjoy spending time around here. It's good getting back up to speed. :)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: DW-Florian on August 31, 2004, 09:48:42 am
"Next stop, downtown Kilrah ???"

I just can't wait to take that bus :D

What a change since WCI in DOS mode ....
Title: Heheh
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 31, 2004, 04:01:38 pm
Super Atragon music? That's pretty funny, I just re-watched part of it last night. My trailer doesn't seem to want to play though, I just get some pink lines across the screen. Maybe the codec didn't install, just the player. I'll have to try it again.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Tolwyn on September 02, 2004, 07:36:53 am
or you may want to download the trailer again. It is possible, that your copy is corrupted
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on September 02, 2004, 11:12:32 am
Oh, I got the trailer working now. Seems that even though the DivX 5.2 codec or whatever might be needed to play the trailer, the DivX player itself can't play it. So I got windows media player and it played it and the other recent trailers just fine.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: mitac on September 04, 2004, 11:01:33 am
Guys, this is fantastic. :nod:
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: ZylonBane on September 07, 2004, 11:18:54 am
"The calvary doesn't always come to the rescue sir."
"Say hello to the Bohemoth."

Might want to slap a couple of your voice actors there.

Nice models, effect, etc, but what's up with all the stationary camera shots? Made the whole thing look more like a boring render test than a trailer.

"Comming soon"?
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: OptimusX on September 09, 2004, 07:25:36 pm
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Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Genoism on September 19, 2004, 12:07:33 am
grrrr says its corrupted...the file, this is before i can even extract it with winrar... unless im not supposed to be extracting with winrar...also its the newest winrar so...help?
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Starman01 on September 19, 2004, 02:33:18 am
Very strange, this is the first time I hear this. However, I had similar
questions with some other files a few months back.

Dumb question, have you tried re-downloading it ? That will probably
solve your problem.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Genoism on September 19, 2004, 12:11:58 pm
tried again, didn't work, problem is that it says when downloading that the file is about 40mb but actually only downloads about 8 or so. So i guess it needs to be re-uploaded or something of a sort.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Genoism on October 04, 2004, 09:50:56 pm
c'mon please re-upload it! :p
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Starman01 on October 06, 2004, 09:39:15 am
Curse, you are right ! I downloaded it a few minutes ago, and the file is indeed corrupted. The downloaded archive is only 7 MB, even if my download says 30 MB.

@Tolwyn : Could you please reupload the trailer ? Maybe the last server-incident broke it.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Tolwyn on October 06, 2004, 11:48:31 am
roger that, it can be done
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Tolwyn on October 06, 2004, 11:59:42 am
I have taken a look into the issue, the file on the ftp is not corrupted, it still clocks down at 29.8 MB. I will upload it to File Planet though :)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Ransom on October 06, 2004, 12:17:28 pm
It dies at around 9 megs for me too. It says it's 30mb, yes, but it always dies at around 9 mb.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Genoism on October 06, 2004, 02:56:56 pm
always dies at 1mb here
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Speed Demon on November 04, 2004, 04:14:18 pm
the preview trailer still isn't downloading correctly tried it 3 times.  My RAR extracter (WinRAR) says it's corupt.  I also did a couple of searches at file planet and didn't find it:
http://www.fileplanet.com/search.aspx?q=wing%20commander
http://www.fileplanet.com/search.aspx?q=wing%20commander%20saga
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Lynx on November 04, 2004, 04:43:42 pm
I feel an irrational notion to blame fileplanet.

When Tolwyn sees that he'll surely reupload it again. I hope it works this time.
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Genoism on November 04, 2004, 06:34:11 pm
OMG THE FORUMS ARE BACK YES!@!!$
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Tolwyn on November 05, 2004, 04:57:41 am
New download location is up!

Mirror 1 (WC News) (ftp://ftp.wcnews.com/files/mods/wing_commander_saga_teaser_trailer.rar)
Title: Saga Preview Trailer
Post by: Genoism on November 05, 2004, 12:28:33 pm
woohoo thanks