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Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: InfernoGod on August 21, 2004, 05:39:58 pm
I finally reached the Admiral status and Triple Ace status in FS2, and I've won every medal! WoOt!:)
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: WMCoolmon on August 21, 2004, 05:52:43 pm
Hmm, so this explains your brown nose. :p

Do you get to backtalk Command now? And order reinforcements around? How about declining missions? "The Sathanas is heading for Capella? Gee...I'd love to help those millions of people, but the Simpson's is on...sorry."
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: capsfan9803 on August 21, 2004, 05:56:56 pm
Although, you gotta wonder what an Admiral's doing flying around in a fighter.
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Post by: Lightspeed on August 21, 2004, 05:58:16 pm
Fighting, what else? :p
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Post by: jdjtcagle on August 21, 2004, 05:58:47 pm
:lol:

I've always wondered that
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: capsfan9803 on August 21, 2004, 06:02:47 pm
Ha, i just thought of this

Alpha 2 (or whoever it was): Dammit!  Command let Bosch escape!

Alpha 1 (thinking): I did?
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on August 21, 2004, 06:19:58 pm
Good for you :)

I cant get any higher than commander, or something like that. I think FS2 has stopped recording my scores :(
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: jdjtcagle on August 21, 2004, 06:23:04 pm
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Originally posted by capsfan9803
Ha, i just thought of this

Alpha 2 (or whoever it was): Dammit!  Command let Bosch escape!

Alpha 1 (thinking): I did?


:lol:

although Admiral isn't command :p
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: StratComm on August 21, 2004, 06:57:28 pm
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Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
Good for you :)

I cant get any higher than commander, or something like that. I think FS2 has stopped recording my scores :(


The SCP isn't helping either.  We get reset every time we upgrade.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Deepstar on August 21, 2004, 07:10:26 pm
Lol a Admiral in a Fighter.

Command: "Alpha 1, the Command of your Wing have Lt. Commander Snipes"

I think "I'm Admiral and must follow orders of a Lt. Commander? WTF?!"
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Setekh on August 21, 2004, 07:27:58 pm
Haha, congratulations. Just make sure you have a copy of your pilot file. ;)
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Kosh on August 22, 2004, 12:25:15 am
Getting Triple Ace is easy, but getting Admiral's status is almost impossible without cheating (in FS1 it does accuse you of cheating when you get that far). The only medal I can't seem to win in the main campaign is the Order of Galatea.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Mongoose on August 22, 2004, 12:36:55 am
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Originally posted by Kosh
Getting Triple Ace is easy, but getting Admiral's status is almost impossible without cheating (in FS1 it does accuse you of cheating when you get that far). The only medal I can't seem to win in the main campaign is the Order of Galatea.

The mission "Proving Grounds," where you get the Order of Galatea, has to be the single most annoying mission in the whole campaign :p.  The only reliable way I found of getting that medal would be to focus on disarming the Tiamat's beam cannons as soon as it jumps in.  As soon as you're done, high-tail it back to the Aquitaine and fend off the bombers.  As far as I can tell, there's absolutely no way to destroy the Tiamat without having the Aquitaine's hull fall below 50%, the threshold for getting the medal.  (Actually, I don't think there's any way to destroy it, period :p.)
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: DaBrain on August 22, 2004, 06:47:42 am
I just remembered playing Starlancer.
In Starlancer your rank decided whether you are or you are not allowed to fly better fighters. That was pretty cool.


But I think that's not possible in FS2 :(

Commanding a capital ship would be nice too.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Hippo on August 22, 2004, 02:28:08 pm
I got an admiral in FS1... It literally took me 6 years of playing...

After commander (or commodor) you pretty much have to exponentiate your score for each promotion... Just uh... How long have you been playing IG? In FS2, it took me 4 years, but i hit rear (or vice... the first one)... Makes me wonder how you managed to get it so fast without A; playing single player templar, or B; making a promotion campaign... :wtf:
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: magatsu1 on August 22, 2004, 02:48:07 pm
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Originally posted by Mongoose
 As far as I can tell, there's absolutely no way to destroy the Tiamat without having the Aquitaine's hull fall below 50%, the threshold for getting the medal.  (Actually, I don't think there's any way to destroy it, period :p.)


I actually managed to disable it once. When the Aqutaine scarpered it just sat there on 2% energy and wouldn't bloody die!
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Hippo on August 22, 2004, 02:52:51 pm
probably the lack of a weapon with the huge flag or whatnot...
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Post by: Ace Pace on August 22, 2004, 03:07:22 pm
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Originally posted by Mongoose

The mission "Proving Grounds," where you get the Order of Galatea, has to be the single most annoying mission in the whole campaign :p.  The only reliable way I found of getting that medal would be to focus on disarming the Tiamat's beam cannons as soon as it jumps in.  As soon as you're done, high-tail it back to the Aquitaine and fend off the bombers.  As far as I can tell, there's absolutely no way to destroy the Tiamat without having the Aquitaine's hull fall below 50%, the threshold for getting the medal.  (Actually, I don't think there's any way to destroy it, period :p.)


Weird, on medium I got it on first try, kept the Aquitaine above 50% and got some nice kills.

Personally, got to Admiral(Isn't it rear admiral) in FS1 after 4 years of replaying the campaign, and FS2, well, just now FS2 reguler, the added campaign, the FSport and ST allmost have me there, with all the medals achived long ago.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: TopAce on August 22, 2004, 04:08:20 pm
Reaching an Admiral for me is quite impossible. I change my pilot files often.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Ghostavo on August 22, 2004, 05:00:22 pm
Use Emps against the Tiamat in proving grounds... you can kill it. Now... go read a book. :D :p
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Post by: magatsu1 on August 22, 2004, 05:27:57 pm
nope. sat there for 5 minutes (time X as far as it goes) and it sat there with a dozen Fighters hammering it and didn't budge below 2%. Hippo's probably right about the departure of the Aquataine though.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: aldo_14 on August 22, 2004, 05:46:36 pm
in huff cos someone else posted 'go read a book' first.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: QuantumDelta on August 22, 2004, 05:48:34 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
in huff cos someone else posted 'go read a book' first.


Yea just what I was thinking
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Hippo on August 22, 2004, 06:08:44 pm
Is it scary that i was about to post that too? :nervous:
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Post by: aldo_14 on August 22, 2004, 06:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by Hippo
Is it scary that i was about to post that too? :nervous:


I'm quivering in fear right now.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Ghostavo on August 22, 2004, 07:11:03 pm
magatsu1, EMP missiles can kill the Tiamat... very slowly, but they can, try it.
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Post by: TopAce on August 23, 2004, 06:56:27 am
Can you carry the EMP in that mission? :wtf:
It can only kill capships if you do an EMP yourself. Enhanced Missile Pack :lol:
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Hippo on August 23, 2004, 08:58:36 am
he means it has the huge flag... it does little damage, but will work... eventually...
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Post by: TopAce on August 23, 2004, 09:01:13 am
It will work, yes.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: karajorma on August 23, 2004, 09:50:32 am
Every time. Every bloody time this subject is raised someone starts talking without checking the tables! :blah:

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Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: TopAce on August 23, 2004, 10:14:03 am
I am credulous.
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Post by: Ghostavo on August 23, 2004, 11:45:24 am
:eek2:

*wonders how he always destroys the Tiamat*
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: magatsu1 on August 23, 2004, 12:19:34 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
magatsu1, EMP missiles can kill the Tiamat... very slowly, but they can, try it.


I'll take your word for it
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: TopAce on August 23, 2004, 12:57:52 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
:eek2:

*wonders how he always destroys the Tiamat*


The only key to the problem may be that the EMP flag includes the Huge flag. It would be quite illogical, of course.
Title: Re: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Woolie Wool on August 24, 2004, 03:38:46 pm
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Originally posted by InfernoGod
I finally reached the Admiral status and Triple Ace status in FS2, and I've won every medal! WoOt!:)


Maybe I should post the FS1 Admiral debriefing soundclip, because I doubt you achieved it legitimately.
Title: Re: Re: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Ace Pace on August 24, 2004, 03:59:32 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool


Maybe I should post the FS1 Admiral debriefing soundclip, because I doubt you achieved it legitimately.


Please do, but shouldn't it be techincly possible by playing every single campaign ever made for FS1, then replaying FS1 campaign, and Silent Threat?
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: StratComm on August 24, 2004, 04:17:47 pm
No, not really, as you need something like 2 million points to make Admiral.  Replaying the campaigns, it would take a long time to get there.
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Post by: Ace Pace on August 24, 2004, 04:25:48 pm
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Originally posted by StratComm
No, not really, as you need something like 2 million points to make Admiral.  Replaying the campaigns, it would take a long time to get there.


So its possible, just a massive effort and replaying small campaigns dozens of times.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Ace Pace on August 24, 2004, 04:26:08 pm
EDIT: double post.
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Post by: TopAce on August 25, 2004, 02:52:39 am
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Originally posted by Ace Pace


So its possible, just a massive effort and replaying small campaigns dozens of times.


Massive is not an expression here. Just imagine: you get 20 points for taking down a Basilisk on Insane. You get 0 points for accomplishing any of your goals. You get at most 500 points for destroying a Lilith. All these points are valid on [glow=red]INSANE[/glow] . Do you think that is possible without cheating or playing 'promotion campaign's?
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Post by: Ace Pace on August 25, 2004, 02:58:00 am
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Originally posted by TopAce


Massive is not an expression here. Just imagine: you get 20 points for taking down a Basilisk on Insane. You get 0 points for accomplishing any of your goals. You get at most 500 points for destroying a Lilith. All these points are valid on [glow=red]INSANE[/glow] . Do you think that is possible without cheating or playing 'promotion campaign's?



What about all those things where you and your wingman just anahilate dozens of enemies that come in, what was it called? if someone stuck those as a campaign with points it might work.


Anyway, this after finshing my FS2 medal collection for the 5th time :shaking:

I still want to see the admiral debriefing ;)
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: TopAce on August 25, 2004, 03:05:28 am
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Originally posted by Ace Pace

What about all those things where you and your wingman just anahilate dozens of enemies that come in, what was it called? if someone stuck those as a campaign with points it might work.
...


Let's guess you take down 24(two dozens) of fighters in a mission like this, while playing on insane. Let's guess you get 15 points for each kills. You have to reach 1 million points to get the Admiral status. So:
15x24 = 360 score per mission
1,000,000/360 = 2777.7 It means you will have to play that mission at least 2778 times, if you keep killing 24 fighters per flight.

Let's guess you get 750 score for completing the 'kill everything that appears as a red dot on your radar' mission goal.
It means you get 750 + 360 = 1110 points per mission. To reach 1 million score, you have to...
(1,000,000 / 1110 = 900.9) ... fly the mission at least 901 times.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Ace Pace on August 25, 2004, 03:08:04 am
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Originally posted by TopAce


Let's guess you take down 24(two dozens) of fighters in a mission like this, while playing on insane. Let's guess you get 15 points for each kills. You have to reach 1 million points to get the Admiral status. So:
15x24 = 360 score per mission
1,000,000/360 = 2777.7 It means you will have to play that mission at least 2778 times, if you keep killing 24 fighters per flight.


Why only 24? or is the Gauntlet (ah remember the name) numbers for FS1?
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: TopAce on August 25, 2004, 03:09:59 am
Why only 24? Open FRED, place a fighter and see how many score you get for killing it. (SHIFT-S) window. You will notice that you get fewer than 24 points for each fighters.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Beowulf on August 25, 2004, 09:49:39 pm
Sex?
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: TopAce on August 26, 2004, 03:41:36 am
I do not know what you mean by that. Who did you direct that post towards?
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: InfernoGod on August 26, 2004, 12:04:06 pm
Lol, to quote Lieutenant Loukakis:
Welcome to Vega ensign.
Now I can say 'oh no he didn't!' lol
And i didn't cheat. A big factor that helped was one of the campaigns i created. Primary objectives are worth 100,000, secondary objectives are 10,000 (as much as a Sathanas) and bonus objectives are for one million points! lol I never noticed how much a Sathanas was worth until i had completed the campaign.
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Post by: TopAce on August 26, 2004, 12:12:30 pm
Which campaign is that? :wtf:
That's cheating in a point of view, you know?
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Post by: Taristin on August 26, 2004, 12:14:42 pm
Ahh, so you did cheat.

I made a campaign once, where I was in an osiris, and had to bomb a typhon that was at 5% health, worth 1000000 points. I did so, and became Admiral.

And yes. That is cheating. :p
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: TopAce on August 26, 2004, 12:23:01 pm
I can hardly believe this. Raa agreed with me!
Let's celebrate! :D
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Post by: Taristin on August 26, 2004, 12:43:24 pm
Do we really disagree all that often? Or is it merely we do not understand what eachother mean all the time? ;)
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Post by: TopAce on August 26, 2004, 01:06:12 pm
I am certain we do understand each other. We are both intelligent men, we are simply on different wavelength all the time.
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Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on August 26, 2004, 03:08:16 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
:eek2:

*wonders how he always destroys the Tiamat*


well, as long as you stay close enough to the Tiamat the Aquitaine's beam cannons should take it out.
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Hippo on August 26, 2004, 03:17:37 pm
Yeah... EMP always seems to do it for me... O.o :wtf: o.O


:nervous: Cheater! Knew it! :nervous:


I'll put up the FS1 soundbyte... Stand by...
Title: I Finally Did It!
Post by: Hippo on August 26, 2004, 03:33:55 pm
Rear Admiral:

http://swooh.com/peon/hippo/rearad.wav

Vide Admiral:

http://swooh.com/peon/hippo/vicead.wav

Admiral

http://swooh.com/peon/hippo/admiral.wav

...

I only put up Admiral Wolfe's voices, since Shima sounds like a pimp (like when she says 'inter-system subspace drives'...) ...

It IS possible to get an admiral for FS1, and FS2 obviusly, but it takes YEARS...