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Title: I'll be damned.....
Post by: aldo_14 on September 02, 2004, 02:02:43 pm
http://web.archive.org/web/20020601132929/www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/

A lot of images & stuff is missing, but still - brings back memories.
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 02, 2004, 02:53:23 pm
what is that ? an early build website or somethin' ?
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Post by: Darkage on September 02, 2004, 03:19:16 pm
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Originally posted by magatsu1
what is that ? an early build website or somethin' ?



It was Aldo's old campaign site.

Early HLP (http://web.archive.org/web/20010424110916/www.3dap.com/hlp/)
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Post by: Mad Bomber on September 02, 2004, 03:22:40 pm
Man, it brings back the memories...
Title: bet you don't remember this either..
Post by: magatsu1 on September 02, 2004, 04:44:07 pm
http://web.archive.org/web/20010414183725/vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013193.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20010414183725/vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013193.html)

the link in the HLP frontpage still works. Good bit 'o history for you oldies to mull over.
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Post by: StratComm on September 02, 2004, 04:57:11 pm
Wow, that one's worth the entertainment value alone.

Snicker... Aldo's first post :drevil:
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 02, 2004, 05:15:27 pm
DG's early/first stuff is there too.
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Post by: Goober5000 on September 02, 2004, 11:05:41 pm
:eek2: They archived the Twilight campaign! :eek2:

*downloads*

Hmm.  "twilight_corefiles.exe" is not a valid Win32 application.

EDIT: The zip files work. :)
Title: *sniffle*
Post by: InfernoGod on September 02, 2004, 11:27:03 pm
wow, that's weird. still, it's so sad that reci died. *shot, but after putting Aldo's first post in sig* j/k
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Post by: Rictor on September 02, 2004, 11:28:40 pm
anyone remember the address for the Freespace Chronicles or Ground FS?
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Post by: Rictor on September 02, 2004, 11:36:25 pm
even back then, he was a dirty filthy spammer :lol: :lol:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010415035341/vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013163.html
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Post by: Gloriano on September 02, 2004, 11:42:33 pm
that bring memories



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They archived the Twilight campaign!


now that is wow.....:eek2:
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Post by: Goober5000 on September 02, 2004, 11:51:33 pm
Yup, here it is.  The ZIPs are intact; download them all and extract them to the appropriate folders.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010603012953rn_1/freespace.volitionwatch.com/twilight/

I'll check it out tomorrow.  If I try it tonight, I won't get any sleep. :p
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Post by: Kosh on September 03, 2004, 12:27:38 am
I've actually never heard of it. Are there any other campaigns on this thing that have been completed and forgotten about?
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Post by: Gloriano on September 03, 2004, 12:36:03 am
Well that release was pulled from site due proplems it did have
CTD in some times etc

It's was going to Re-released as 10 mission long campaing but that
did die too
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Post by: Taristin on September 03, 2004, 09:48:32 am
...the trailer is still there too! ;) :p

*DL's*
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Post by: DaBrain on September 03, 2004, 10:20:35 am
The music is great :yes:
I never knew there was a release.
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Post by: an0n on September 03, 2004, 11:34:31 am
*remembers the tedium of colour-tagging THIS (http://web.archive.org/web/20010925202159/http://fattonys.com/) manually*
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Post by: Taristin on September 03, 2004, 11:35:23 am
Psychadelic. :p
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Post by: phreak on September 03, 2004, 11:38:38 am
http://web.archive.org/web/20010415031451/vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001723.html

you all know what 001723.html means!!1

(i actually memorized that number :nervous: )
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Post by: an0n on September 03, 2004, 11:38:53 am
And, FYI, that's the only picture of me anywhere on the internet.
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Post by: an0n on September 03, 2004, 11:40:51 am
*feels like a dumbass (http://web.archive.org/web/20010405105007/vbb.volition-inc.com/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=FreeSpace+2+(and+Freespace)&number=1&DaysPrune=10&LastLogin=)*
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Post by: Taristin on September 03, 2004, 11:44:21 am
:lol:

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   Lets make our own FS3!!    Fattony    18    04-04-2001 03:15 PM
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Post by: an0n on September 03, 2004, 11:45:35 am
Seared into the internet for all time.

****.
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Post by: Taristin on September 03, 2004, 11:50:58 am
Nah.. the thread's gone. So any really incriminating data is lost.
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Post by: aldo_14 on September 03, 2004, 12:14:09 pm
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Originally posted by StratComm
Wow, that one's worth the entertainment value alone.

Snicker... Aldo's first post :drevil:


That's not my 1st post.

this is (http://web.archive.org/web/20010407220015/vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013240.html)
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Post by: Darkage on September 03, 2004, 02:55:31 pm
03-18-2001 12:53 PM : Thread i made on the old hLP board:D abput 2 months after i joined:D
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Post by: Goober5000 on September 05, 2004, 10:15:24 pm
Okay, for anyone who's interested in playing the Twilight campaign, I found out what was causing the CTD.  Here's a list of the things that need fixing (after running it through a debug FSO build to check for errors):

1) In practically every table, the copyright notice was introduced by a colon, not a semicolon.  This meant that the copyright notice was being parsed as part of the table, not as a comment.

2) The Subach HL-D was missing from the weapons table.  It should be added there or removed from the ships that carry it in the ships table.

3) The NPW-2 has an extra $Damage tag.

4) The weapons table was missing a Targeting Laser.  Since this seemed to be replaced with the GTW-ETS Tyche I replaced it as such in the ship loadouts.

5) The VasFleet01, VasFleet02, and VasFleet03 backgrounds were missing.  I just stuck the Shivan background pics into data\effects and renamed them.

6) Both the Apollo and the Black Talon had inconsistent subsystems between their ship entries and their model files.  In both cases, the model file had  "engine" in the model and "engines" in the ship entry as well as "communications" in the model file and "communication" in the ship entry.

7) The Black Talon had a bunch of NULL normals on its gun hardpoints.

8) Finally, the Black Talon had two secondary banks in the model but only one in the ship table.  I'm pretty sure this was the cause of the crash.  I think FS2 could recover from any of the above errors but not from this one.  The game crashes when the AI tries to fire a missile from a nonexistent secondary bank.

Here (http://www.swooh.com/peon/Goober5000/blacktalon2.zip) is a fixed model file... just extract it into data/models and Twilight should run fine.  Let me know how it works. :)
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Post by: Gloriano on September 06, 2004, 02:17:12 pm
I check it ASAP:)
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Post by: Ace on September 06, 2004, 06:48:48 pm
Thanks. I talked to Setekh a little while back about doing new CB animations for a re-release.

The new skins made for the GTF Creon (Blacktalon) work with the fixed model, so if Steak has the time to do up the new animations there will be a fixed up re-release version that will be of a much higher quality :)
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Post by: Taristin on September 06, 2004, 06:56:09 pm
I really, really hate the Creon though. :p It's ugly. :ick:
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Post by: aldo_14 on September 07, 2004, 03:03:27 am
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Originally posted by Raa
I really, really hate the Creon though. :p It's ugly. :ick:


:nod:
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Post by: Gloriano on September 07, 2004, 08:51:14 am
Good work Goober it worked:)



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Thanks. I talked to Setekh a little while back about doing new CB animations for a re-release.

The new skins made for the GTF Creon (Blacktalon) work with the fixed model, so if Steak has the time to do up the new animations there will be a fixed up re-release version that will be of a much higher quality



Well I really hope that there will be re-release Twilight deserves it! (Well I liked it) too bad story will not be finished
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Post by: Goober5000 on September 07, 2004, 12:53:14 pm
Yeah, that story was interesting.  If you're not making TBE, Ace, could you at least release the plot for us?

By the way, I "fixed" the Black Talon by just deleting the extra secondary bank.  If you want both banks, you'll have to add a bank in the ships.tbl.  Make sure everything else matches up... it was more of a hack than a dedicated fix.
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Post by: Alikchi on September 09, 2004, 03:18:25 pm
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Originally posted by Mad Bomber
Man, it brings back the memories...


Those were the days, no?