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Title: YY Genetics
Post by: GoulMeister on September 03, 2004, 11:11:04 am
I was thinking about genetic engineering latley  and was wondering what would happen if the D.N.A was reomved from an egg and replaced with the D.N.A from a sperm that contained a Y chromosome
andd then fertilised with another sperm that also contained a Y chromosome, perhaps some sort of super male would develop or a freak of some kind or the cell would be completly unviable.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Unknown Target on September 03, 2004, 11:13:52 am
It would probably result in a broken egg.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Zeronet on September 03, 2004, 11:20:32 am
Dead Cell...
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: GoulMeister on September 03, 2004, 11:25:15 am
supposing it was a different universe and the cell lived what then.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: an0n on September 03, 2004, 11:27:19 am
I'm gonna say 'blank slate'.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: karajorma on September 03, 2004, 11:28:50 am
Hard to say. Having XYY is actually a reasonably common occurence (Especially in scotland apparently where the odds of it happening are 1 in 1000).
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Vaelinx on September 03, 2004, 11:33:13 am
XYY is a documented syndrome, as is XXYY.  YY is not exactly something that can occur naturally, so we don't know anything about it...  But lacking the X chromosome, a fetus may not develop into a human fit enough to be born (if it will even develop).  Certain genes would be lacking, and will likely cause all sort of hormone creation, hormone balance, and glandular issues that are probably necessary for fetus development.  If "he" survived, "he" would probably lack sweat glands at least... and that would suck...
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Taristin on September 03, 2004, 11:33:34 am
Isn't that Down's Syndrome?  

I'm not that 'learned' in genetics, so I'm probably wrong...
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: GoulMeister on September 03, 2004, 11:36:05 am
in downs syndrome people have 1 extra chromosome but its not an x or y (i think), people wirh additional sex chromosomes develop weird deformities like both sex organs, some are alright like xxx
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Janos on September 03, 2004, 11:49:10 am
It would lead to eradiction of weaker sex and to a world filled with joy, guns, beer and desperate homogays.

voted SUPERMAN
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: GoulMeister on September 03, 2004, 11:52:05 am
Techinacly women could takeover the world like that because men are no longer needed with this new cloning stuff, the society of the future, pink fluffy and boring.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: an0n on September 03, 2004, 11:52:30 am
Why isn't 'Taelon' an option?
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Hippo on September 03, 2004, 12:14:33 pm
The probability of ever getting YY is impossible, therfore, for one to try to visualize it, is also impossible...
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Ghostavo on September 03, 2004, 12:21:09 pm
X has many of the information that is needed for a human to form so... not going to happen
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: karajorma on September 03, 2004, 12:26:34 pm
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Originally posted by Vaelinx
XYY is a documented syndrome, as is XXYY.  YY is not exactly something that can occur naturally, so we don't know anything about it...  But lacking the X chromosome, a fetus may not develop into a human fit enough to be born (if it will even develop).  Certain genes would be lacking, and will likely cause all sort of hormone creation, hormone balance, and glandular issues that are probably necessary for fetus development.  If "he" survived, "he" would probably lack sweat glands at least... and that would suck...


That's a fair point. There's a lot of important stuff on the X-chromosome.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: an0n on September 03, 2004, 01:07:14 pm
I feel I'm not alone when I say: **** it, let's have a go anyway.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Unknown Target on September 03, 2004, 02:09:12 pm
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Originally posted by GoulMeister
Techinacly women could takeover the world like that because men are no longer needed with this new cloning stuff, the society of the future, pink fluffy and boring.



Yea, but they'd have to give up sex.
I doubt the entire female population of the world would want to become a bunch of virgin lesbians :D
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Flipside on September 03, 2004, 02:26:46 pm
The genetic information for a human is contained in both chromosones, Whilst one can be 'dominant', I'm pretty certain that a lack of one type would mean that certain 'triggers' would not be set-off during pregnancy, resulting in an under-developed foetus, and most likely miscarriage as the body rejects it.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Ford Prefect on September 03, 2004, 02:30:24 pm
We already know what happens with YY. Hasn't anyone ever heard of Mike Tyson?
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Post by: Flipside on September 03, 2004, 02:35:21 pm
Or watched Alien 3 ;)
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Post by: Carl on September 03, 2004, 02:53:23 pm
not possible. certain genes needed for human life are only carried on the X chromosome.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Corsair on September 03, 2004, 04:34:56 pm
If it ain't broke, don't fix it?
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: jdjtcagle on September 03, 2004, 04:47:29 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target



Yea, but they'd have to give up sex.
I doubt the entire female population of the world would want to become a bunch of virgin lesbians :D


Wrong!!! :D

They have ways :nervous:
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: demon442 on September 03, 2004, 10:09:42 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
Why isn't 'Taelon' an option?


w00t!!  Loved that show, up until the last season.


If YY were possible, we would have documented it by now.  So I know it's not possible and I dont need to know much of genetics.
Title: YY Genetics
Post by: Kosh on September 03, 2004, 10:36:14 pm
I think that Wonder Woman would happen. :D