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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: Blitzerland on September 04, 2004, 01:47:54 pm
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You know, campaigns obviously made by total n00bs.
I remember when I played Second Great War Part Two, which took place one year after Capellan-incident.
Somehow the GTVA magically gets ten collussuses (eseses), a small transport manages to capture a Sathanas juggernaut (with zero casulties), and figure out how to operate it, and people are actually killed by IFF-changes :doubt:
Oh yeah, and a Hecate has BFReds. Worse yet, they actually call them "BFReds" in game. :blah:
STUPID! :no:
But fun to play, and fun to rack up kills.
What are your views on B-campaigns? Ever played one? What did you think?
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Meh...
Stop teh peeves!!!
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I've played a few, didn't like any of them... Like there was one with the NeoGTVA colosus and the NeoGTVA sathanas, and somehow a (demon?) shivans stop functioning because you destroy a few comm nodes, and then there's a huge BoE mission with 3 saths, and 2 colossuses... It was the biggest waste of my time... Don't remember the name... Sounds similar to the great war part 2... I'll have to try that...
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They Rule... If you're bored, irritated and need to lose some agression:D
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Yeah, Second Great War Part Two is a big waste of time.
But it's fun! Try playing it. That campaign is almost as funny as Deus Ex Machina. Only the best part is, SGW: P2 doesn't do it on purpose.
Any others?
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Meh...
Stop teh peeves!!!
What in the name of humanity is that supposed to mean?
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Your posting a "pet peeve"
peeve informal >verb annoy; irritate. >noun a cause of annoyance.
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I love B-campaigns!
They're so cheesy yet hilarious at the same time! :D :lol:
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Worst campaign I ever played was simply called "SOC Campaign". Twas written by a non english speaker, which I'll admit wasn't his fault, but the first mission was a capship scrap BoE, which was. Didn't get past mission 3 IIRC.
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Hehehe! I remember that one!
I played almost all of the campaigns in the Volition Archives and almost all of them were what you called 'b-campaigns', but I still found them fun, in one way or another :)
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Anyone ever played the Invasion campaign? I think it's on Volition archives.
True meaning of a B-Campaign. RIGHT THERE.
Funny, though. :nod:
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Battle of Endor syndrome? *shudders along with CPU
I hate it when people don't understand Fs2's engine, and try to cram twenty juggernauts (and all their cousins), five Orions, two hecates, and two hundred Hercs all on one map.
I also hate it when people don't use Orion's or any older ships at all. An Orion can take down a hecate easily.
Another question: how do you guys define a b-campaign, besides the obvious?
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Originally posted by Blitzerland
all on one map.
It's a mission!!! :D :p
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
It's a mission!!! :D :p
Yeah, a CPU-killing mission (i've tried something similar). :lol:
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But... it's like being in a disco! All them pretty lights, ending with a big blue one :)
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:nervous:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/NarfinPix/pain.jpg)
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*makes not to self about any campain Blitzerland makes*
'if it isn't as good as Blackwater Operations, no matter how much he worked on it, or how good his intentions were, I'm gonna complain 'cause it's stupid."
Well, not really, but you gotta give the n00bs SOME credit for actually releasing the damn things...
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Hey, I liked the Great War 2: Part 2 and the SOC campaign! :p I don't understand why people are so against this "Battle of Endor" syndrome; of course you can't make a whole campaign out of it, but a mission or two like that is really fun to play in. Even if you end up watching the events unfold more than participating in them, it's still a fun diversion. I remember one part during GW2:P2 when a captured Sathanas, several Mjolnirs, and a Hecate and Hatshepsut with BFReds were all targeting the same Shivan ship at the same time. That is the true definition of "owned." True, the campaign was kind of cheesy and had a massive amount of huge capships/battles, but it was admittedly fun to play through. Not every mission has to focus on "Alpha 1, the demigod," you know :p.
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Axem: YEAH! Just like THAT! :D
Ahh, doesn't it give you a warm glow? ;)
... or maybe its the big smoking hole that's just been burned through my torso by one of the beams... :eek:
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Originally posted by Solatar
*makes not to self about any campain Blitzerland makes*
'if it isn't as good as Blackwater Operations, no matter how much he worked on it, or how good his intentions were, I'm gonna complain 'cause it's stupid."
Well, not really, but you gotta give the n00bs SOME credit for actually releasing the damn things...
I'm not insulting anybody. I asked for other people's oppinions on B-Campaigns. I even said they were fun to play. My first campaign may very well be a B-Campaign.
Sorry if I came off wrong. :)
EDIT: "Of Lokis and n00bs" is a delibarate B-Campaign, parody...thing. So there.
Nyah! Away with you, vile fiend!
*Dances on your grave, then goes off to play more Fs2 (with SCP)
:lol:
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Originally posted by Mongoose
Hey, I liked the Great War 2: Part 2 and the SOC campaign! :p I don't understand why people are so against this "Battle of Endor" syndrome; of course you can't make a whole campaign out of it, but a mission or two like that is really fun to play in. Even if you end up watching the events unfold more than participating in them, it's still a fun diversion. I remember one part during GW2:P2 when a captured Sathanas, several Mjolnirs, and a Hecate and Hatshepsut with BFReds were all targeting the same Shivan ship at the same time. That is the true definition of "owned." True, the campaign was kind of cheesy and had a massive amount of huge capships/battles, but it was admittedly fun to play through. Not every mission has to focus on "Alpha 1, the demigod," you know :p.
I totally agree. I love the screenshot!
However, large cap-ship battles don't have to be BoE or B-Campaigns, just to clarify that.
And yes, that is the TRUE DEFINITION OF OWNED. Pwned? Maybe. Owned, definate. :lol:
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I like BoE Missions, but they must agree with the campaign and not that you have suddenly a BoE Mission.
The worst Campaign i played, was Vortex i don't like this Campaign
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Originally posted by Deepstar
I like BoE Missions, but they must agree with the campaign and not that you have suddenly a BoE Mission.
The worst Campaign i played, was Vortex i don't like this Campaign
Vortex? Never played it.
The worst campaign I ever played was Invasion.
SGW: P2 was cheesy and stupid, but it was entertaining, and above all (in a wierd way), creative.
Plus, it has the retro-n00b feel we all love to hate, and for some reason, love to play :)
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It's funny that, as much as we say we hate the noob missions with tons of capital ships, these are the ones that are often the most enjoyable, in a simple way :).
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Originally posted by Mongoose
It's funny that, as much as we say we hate the noob missions with tons of capital ships, these are the ones that are often the most enjoyable, in a simple way :).
So true.
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Millennium :ick:
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
Millennium :ick:
Eh? Never played that one. Guess i'll have to try it. :)
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Some really poor FS1 campaign (demo, really) with voice acting for the player. i.e. it sounded like Duke-Nukem in space, and not in a good way.
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The Jake Wars
Gateway
:ick:
(Those are the two outstanding ones when I think of campaigns that 'did not work as they should have.')
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...How about B-Missions? :p There're tons of them. Hell. I made one! :p
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Originally posted by Raa
...How about B-Missions? :p There're tons of them. Hell. I made one! :p
I dunno. Anyone play/make any B-missions they'd like to tell us about?
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Millenium, ahhh yes I know that one. Watch Colossus kill Sathanas. Then watch Colossus kill another Sathanas (I wonder whats next?). Thats right watch a Collosus kill a Sathanas.
By the way I am a n00b mission maker, but I have never made a mission with lots of cap-ships, or with any super ships. Hmm maybe I'm just odd. Perhaps it's gonna come screaming out of me soon.
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No wait I lie, I did do a test mission (no Sexp's or events) with a Colossus and added enemy cap-ships and bombers. Sort of to test what would happen in that kind of engagments and how Alpha could get involved.
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Millenium sucked big time. Most B-Campaigns are at least fun to play...but not this one. The Fred Academy should make its members play that campaign just to see what NOT to do.
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Welcome to the world of FREDing, Fergus! Do you have any missions up for download?
EDIT: Testing is a good idea. I made dozens of test missions just to find out what did what. Sometimes, test missions can evolve into stand-alone missions, too (rarely good missions, but if you're lucky, who knows).
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Well I've made a mission called battletest which is available on the missions page of HLP, where you make 2 ships beat the crap out of each other using FRED without permanent circling.
If anyone's interested don't download the .zip one it doesn't work, download the .fs2 and .txt readme files separately
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Originally posted by Blitzerland
P.S.
Welcome to the world of FREDing, Fergus! Do you have any missions up for download?
Yes, my retail campaing mission 4, and this mission.
Right Click and save target as (http://willy-murdo.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/cruiser_defense.zip)
That one was my first.