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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rictor on September 05, 2004, 09:59:25 am
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This is why I love the Independent.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=557746
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85 Percentage of American young adults who cannot find Afghanistan, Iraq, or Israel on a map.
:lol:
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Smooooooth.
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10% of american young adults don't even know where the US is on a map (more mexicans know that). 25% don't know where Russia is on a map.
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85%?... wierd :lol:
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And I thought education here was bad... :nervous:
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4 Rank of the United States among countries considered to be the greatest threats to world peace according to a 2003 Pew Global Attitudes study (Israel, Iran, and North Korea were considered more dangerous; Iraq was considered less dangerous).
30 Percentage of American young adults who cannot find the Pacific Ocean on a map.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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want to know somethin' scary ?
most Americans believed the September 11th hijackers included Iraqis. Bush didn't even haved to say it. He didn't need to.
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That's american paranoia for you. I'm not suprised at all.
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ofcourse, that's exactly what Bush wants.
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az Iv'e said a grate maney times our edumacaton sestem sucs
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Where exactly did they get the "american youth cannont find on map" stuff?
Hell...I (and every other student who lives there) had to draw an label every country in Europe and Asia and all but one or two did it perfectly...(and that was in the 6th grade mind you).
I talk to my friends about 9/11 all the time...everybody I've talked to is convinced that Al Quaeda did it. Imagine that.
They need to show me a group of 100 Young Americans, and prove to me that 85 of them cannot find Iraq, and 20 of them cannot find the Pacific Ocean. Unless of course "youth" means 7 year olds...:rolleyes:
EDIT: Not defending our education system though...:D
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As young adults I assume they mean someone in their 20s or early 20s
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more like 13 to 18...
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1920s
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
more like 13 to 18...
If a 15+ year old student in my class can't pin-point Afghanistan, Iraq, or Israel on a map, they're in for more then a few extra 'study' hours. That stuff should be general knowledge by then.
13/14... I can see that. And even then they should have a general sense of direction.
Hell, at age 10 to 12 we get to learn the entire globe from America to Asia and back. *remembers the horrors of learning to place Afganistan, Pakistan, Hornoliostan, Bungholestan & Whateverstan in the right place* But those things are supposed to be ironed out in elementry school.
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In my experience they ARE ironed out in elementary school, and if not, they are ironed out very early in middle school.
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Originally posted by Tiara
If a 15+ year old student in my class can't pin-point Afghanistan, Iraq, or Israel on a map, they're in for more then a few extra 'study' hours. That stuff should be general knowledge by then.
13/14... I can see that. And even then they should have a general sense of direction.
Hell, at age 10 to 12 we get to learn the entire globe from America to Asia and back. *remembers the horrors of learning to place Afganistan, Pakistan, Hornoliostan, Bungholestan & Whateverstan in the right place* But those things are supposed to be ironed out in elementry school.
Why was that pointed at me?
BTW, nost of classmates can most certainly tell where afghanastan SP? and Iraq...
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Why was that pointed at me?
we know you hate bungholestan and freedom :mad:
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There is no bungholestan and freedom is an illusion..
:ha:
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
There is no bungholestan and freedom is an illusion..
:ha:
why the hate
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because...
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Originally posted by Solatar
Where exactly did they get the "american youth cannont find on map" stuff?
A large scale survey of a subgroup representative of the population, I'd imagine.
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Where exactly did they get the "american youth cannont find on map" stuff?
National Geographic did a huge survey of well over a thousand people (cannot recall the exact number) a couple of years ago in many, many, many different countries. I think you might be able to still find it on their site.
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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Why was that pointed at me?
No, was a general statement... :)
BTW, nost of classmates can most certainly tell where afghanastan SP? and Iraq... [/B]
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Seriously, ya can't even spell Afghanistan :p
Seriously, just kidding here. I misspelled it as well earlier in this thread. :D:p
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T, most first graders can't even find the right classroom, nevermind Afghanistan. BTW, I only got Europe in primary school, and even then we skipped the Balkan because (no offence to anyone) "the next war will just change all the names again".
Not that not finding your own country on the world map is excusable for any average kid past 10.
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Originally posted by kasperl
T, most first graders can't even find the right classroom, nevermind Afghanistan. BTW, I only got Europe in primary school, and even then we skipped the Balkan because (no offence to anyone) "the next war will just change all the names again".
Seriously, what school were/are you in? :wtf: I can vividly remembermy days in primary school where we had to learn every friggin' country in the world. Even my little brother has had that.
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We never quite had that. We ahd the bases like reading, writing, maths (for all the good it did), some art, and had some very interesting sports days. And my class published the school newspaper. :D
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How is that averagely 20 out of 100 Americans can't find the Pacific Ocean? It's not a small one. :rolleyes:
Reading those facts, I am surprised. Is that true that a limited number of university students cannot even speak their own mothertongue well? Spelling and general communication capability included.
Not to make a merit of it, but we spent two months learning about the USA in Hungary.
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Originally posted by vyper
We never quite had that. We ahd the bases like reading, writing, maths (for all the good it did), some art, and had some very interesting sports days. And my class published the school newspaper. :D
I remember doing a primary 4(?) project on the EEC (as it was known then). I still harbour a deep secret loathing of Luxembourg, for having no outstanding features or history.
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Originally posted by Tiara
Seriously, what school were/are you in? :wtf: I can vividly remembermy days in primary school where we had to learn every friggin' country in the world. Even my little brother has had that.
A smalll public primary school. Yeah, it sucked. Right now I'm doing 5 Gymnasium, NT+Latin+Bio+IT
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I also have experience in public(=private) schools. The education is still better there than it is in other coutries' normal schools. I bet that everybody knew where Hungary, the USA and the Pacific Ocean are. [not inserting a smiley is intentional, there is nothing funny about it]
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Originally posted by kasperl
T, most first graders can't even find the right classroom, nevermind Afghanistan. BTW, I only got Europe in primary school, and even then we skipped the Balkan because (no offence to anyone) "the next war will just change all the names again"..
Its funny cause its true ;) ;)
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Ah, once in a lifetime truth can be funny.
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Problem is that when I learned the world, it was actually a pretty different place, I have to remember a lot of countries that I just used to call USSR :)
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Originally posted by TopAce
I also have experience in public(=private) schools. The education is still better there than it is in other coutries' normal schools. I bet that everybody knew where Hungary, the USA and the Pacific Ocean are. [not inserting a smiley is intentional, there is nothing funny about it]
In general (i.e. private allways > state) or do you mean better than state schools in some other country/s?
IIRC studies have shown that (in the UK) University pupils from state (i.e. non private / paid schools) do better than those from 'paid' education. Despite the fact that most private schools are selective.
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We did all the states of the Union back in fifth grade, but that's it...we never really did countries. In ninth grade, we had a quiz on the map of Asia...most of the kids failed. All the 'stans confused them.