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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Setekh on September 11, 2004, 12:25:53 am
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Or something like that. Lots of updates from the beta:
http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=netupdate&p=659789
(http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/539/539483/halo-2-20040817091158280.jpg)
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I hope this one has a freakin quiksave... bad rabbit, checkpoints are for consoles...
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Originally posted by mrfun
I hope this one has a freakin quiksave... bad rabbit, checkpoints are for consoles...
silence, heathen, that's because it IS on a console..:p
for those who preorder halo2.. :)
(http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/472/1090429546.jpg)
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I am soooooo gonna buy this, even if its just for use on my cousin's system :D
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Originally posted by Turnsky
silence, heathen, that's because it IS on a console..:p
for those who preorder halo2.. :)
(http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/472/1090429546.jpg)
I'am getting that already pre-ordered, and should be 2-3 weeks until HALO2 goes gold
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I'll be getting it when they put it on PC...........and when I have a PC that can run it.
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Counting down as well eh Setekh? :)
Indeed, I already have mine pre-ordered.
I'm trying to finish all assignments before that date because everything else loses priority when Halo2 comes out. :p
My homepage is even set to bungie.net hehehe.
I think I may have to use some of the excuses that they were suggesting to avoid having to leave the Xbox... :D
At least when my eyes are watering beyond belief and my hands are cramped from holding the control, I should have several other games to take a break with. Like Battle for Middle Earth, and Dawn of War. :D
- Gruggles
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Are we going to be seeing another "fantastic reasons to buy the X-Box.. 2 years later and it sucks on the PC" scenario? It has so much PC potential that hasn't been realised with Halo (which - lets face it - was a poor port that happened to late).
Halo 2 will have to be something special then. Especially with Battlefield 2 and Quake 4 in the pipeline for the PC. I won't be buying a console just to play it - that's for damn certain.
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Your loss. I know I'm gonna enjoy the **** outta Halo 2.
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Are we going to be seeing another "fantastic reasons to buy the X-Box.. 2 years later and it sucks on the PC" scenario? It has so much PC potential that hasn't been realised with Halo (which - lets face it - was a poor port that happened to late).
Halo 2 will have to be something special then. Especially with Battlefield 2 and Quake 4 in the pipeline for the PC. I won't be buying a console just to play it - that's for damn certain.
Halo really dissapointed me on the PC. Not just the shoddy job done of the conversion, but the game design.... there's not all that much that's interesting.
You've tried all the guns by about half way through, seen all the enemies by about the same time, and the story is pretty uninspiring. Plus the continous reuse of the same levels gets on my tits - it's too bloody repetitive.
Cardinal sin is that you can't fire out the rear door of a dropship.... that could have saved the dgame, but alas - no.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Halo really dissapointed me on the PC. Not just the shoddy job done of the conversion, but the game design.... there's not all that much that's interesting.
You've tried all the guns by about half way through, seen all the enemies by about the same time, and the story is pretty uninspiring. Plus the continous reuse of the same levels gets on my tits - it's too bloody repetitive.
Cardinal sin is that you can't fire out the rear door of a dropship.... that could have saved the dgame, but alas - no.
by the looks of it, you can do so in the sequel, or something of the like, but the proof will be in the pudding, really..
yeah, i'll admit, Halo's multi was its only saving grace on PC, but it was marred by its astronomical hardware requirements... (thanks to gearbox.. :doubt: )
Halo on the Console, however, it was flawless, given that none of its features (namely the vehicles) felt "tacked-on" bear in mind that most console FPS's really botched up various intergrations of features, and made them feel like several games in one.. Turok: evo is one such example.. oh, and the bodies don't dissappear, either..
halo shows Developers how a console FPS should be made.. but, that said, hopefully halo2 will correct the gripes that are present in the first one.
remember, the last few games that bungie made were Oni, and the Myth series of games, so cut them some slack for being slightly out of practice in the fine art of FPS's;)
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Cardinal sin is that you can't fire out the rear door of a dropship.... that could have saved the dgame, but alas - no.
You couldn't fire out the rear of the Pelican? I can - methinks you were only ever on the Pelican during cutscenes and level intros where you weren't supposed to fire. Any other time you get in a Pelican (end of Silent Cartographer and beginning of Assault On The Control Room if you get to Fire Team Charlie fast enough), you can fire out of it, throw grenades, whatever you like.
That said, though, the port truly wasn't all that great. I never play it on PC - the Xbox version is so much better. Not to mention the whole fact that there's co-op on Xbox and not on PC. ;)
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Co-op added immensely to the single player. Halo was also a much much better single player game with the AI pumped up to full, it's all about those battles that keep you on your toes, being down to two bars of health and being trapped behind a rock by two elites while they pummel it with plasma as you wait for your shields to recharge is an incredible feeling. Working out the best strategies to get through a room of enemies was my favourite part of the game and the reason I loved it so much.
Then you throw in one of the best multiplayer experiences I've ever had and it just seals the package for me.
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Yeah, one of the things I loved was how the AI was dynamic enough to never let a single battle play the same way, even if I played the same old tactics, but even more when I tried new approaches on different rooms or environments. I'm totally looking forward to having some more original level designs though, so Halo 2 will be taking up a lot of my time. Thank goodness it's after most of my exams are done. ;)
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Originally posted by Turnsky
silence, heathen, that's because it IS on a console..:p
Except Halo was originaly suppose to be on the PC. :p
Originally posted by Turnsky
for those who preorder halo2.. :)
http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/472/1090429546.jpg
*wishes he had the money for Halo2 and an XBox* :(
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Originally posted by HotSnoJ
Except Halo was originaly suppose to be on the PC. :p
*Bzzzt!* Wrong!
Halo was originally supposed to be on the Mac! :nod:
EDIT: oh yeah, it was also originally supposed to be an RTS, too..
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Originally posted by Turnsky
*Bzzzt!* Wrong!
Halo was originally supposed to be on the Mac! :nod:
Wrong too. Halo was originally a Mac and PC effort, however it was first revealed to the public at Macworld in New York (can't remember the year though).
What with Far Cry, Half Life 2 due soon, Doom3 (a mild disappointment but I'm excited at what can be done with the engine) and Halo 2, I think this has been an awesome year for P.C and Console FPS'.
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Originally posted by 01010
Your loss. I know I'm gonna enjoy the **** outta Halo 2.
Based on the original? It's no loss at all :)
I'm just glad I never paid for that...
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You know what was the greatest achievment of Halo? It was the clipping. Not a single leg was in a wall, occasional odd angles yes, but no bad clipping. Name another game of its period that did that. Console or PC.
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Based on the original? It's no loss at all :)
I'm just glad I never paid for that...
I paid £400 for an Xbox and Halo with an extra controller, worth every single penny because I can honestly say I've put more time into Halo than I do into most other games combined. However, if you're talking about the PC version then I can see where you're coming from, it was a disappointment for me, it seemed to lose something fundamental in the translation that I can't put my finger on.
Different strokes for different folks though.
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Very true that - I'll be fair, if I could afford to buy an X-Box and Halo for that game series alone then I would. It's quite a laugh on the X-Box. However I simply can't afford it and the PC port was poor (for me).
I'm not bitter - I'm still playing Battlefield 1942 ;)
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Originally posted by Setekh
You couldn't fire out the rear of the Pelican? I can - methinks you were only ever on the Pelican during cutscenes and level intros where you weren't supposed to fire. Any other time you get in a Pelican (end of Silent Cartographer and beginning of Assault On The Control Room if you get to Fire Team Charlie fast enough), you can fire out of it, throw grenades, whatever you like.
That said, though, the port truly wasn't all that great. I never play it on PC - the Xbox version is so much better. Not to mention the whole fact that there's co-op on Xbox and not on PC. ;)
I never could... Silent Cartographer in particular I couldn't, which pretty much spoiled the intro.
I just find Halo flat.... none of the weapons felt particularly punchy (the aliens ones were decidedly limp), the flood were derivative and boring (space zombies...marvellous), and the covenant were pretty much dull (the Grunts in particular are just annoying kiddie cartoon enemies, and it destroys a lot of the feeling).
I did enjoy it... but nowhere near to the extent that, baseds on the hype, I should have. Some bits were fun, some touches were neat (the shield mechanic and that almost every weapon was useful), but I wouldn't give it more than, ooh, 75% as a review score.
But, if you like it, you like it. I don't especially, so I don't really care about playing the sequel, be it on X-box or PC.
Albeit the Bungie website is pretty neat in terms of the amount of outtakes, concept art and whatnot they put up.
NB: I'm sure I've seen a Halo body sticking through a wall... definately one seen one which was hanging more or less in mid air after a 'nade.
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I liked the Grunts. On easier settings it actually felt abit tight killing them.
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Originally posted by 01010
What with Far Cry, Half Life 2 due soon, Doom3 (a mild disappointment but I'm excited at what can be done with the engine) and Halo 2, I think this has been an awesome year for P.C and Console FPS'.
That, if anything, is true. Gonna be some great games around. :)
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Enjoy your Halo with new colors(which is all halo2 is), I on the other hand will be enjoying the best game of all time, Metroid Prime 2.
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I shoulda bought an X-Box...
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They still sell Xboxes y'know, Ice. :D That said, if you're looking forward to Halo 2 I'm sure you've got some mates nearby whose Xbox you can have a play with. It's always more fun with a few players around anyway. :)
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Why buy a console that only has 2 games worth buying?
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Originally posted by Bri_Dog
Why buy a console that only has 2 games worth buying?
actually, there's quite a few..
crimson skies, amped, project gotham racing... and so on..
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I thought crimson skies sucked and I hate racing games.
I just hate that damn controller really,it's just weird. Give me a mouse and keyboard instead.
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lols.
I hardly think Halo2 is going to be a dressed up version of Halo...
Halo was pushed forwards to release with the Xbox. (Which lets face it, saved Microsoft's butt).
That's why level's were repetitive.
A bad PC port can hardly be compared to the Xbox version though.
Anyone, who's played a couple of games of Rockets on Prisoner with 8 or so people would never diss Xbox Halo multiplayer... :)
For Halo 2, I'm actually considering getting XboxLive, it looks pretty damn fine. And I dare say that they've done a heaps better job at network code for the net then the PC port.
It has a dynamic hosting system, where it picks the person with the best ping before play to act as host. I do believe, that even if the host player for some reason gets disconnected, the game continues, with the next best connection taking over the Host job with a harldly noticable pause in the game!
I certainly hope some of this in-genious network code travels to the world of PC gaming... Just think of it, unstopable Quake4 games! hehehe...
The future is certainly looking good in the realm of gaming thats for sure. :D
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Originally posted by Bri_Dog
Why buy a console that only has 2 games worth buying?
oh let see
Fable
Halo2
BC
Pariah
Jade Empire
Unreal Championship 2
Mech Assault 2:Lone Wolf
ETC.
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Halo and Halo 2 are the only games on the box that I like, and I'd rather have the PC versions.
Therefor that console has only 2 games worth buying.
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Ninja Gaiden is pretty awesome on the Xbox. My brother and I just finished it, 30 hours all through. :)
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I bought Burnout 3 yesterday. Without doubt the game of the year so far, it looks and plays fantastic. Me and my mate were up until half five this morning just smashing the **** out of everything in our paths.
If you don't like driving games do not fear, it is so much more than that, it is like they took the scientific theory for pure fun and synthesized it into making a game.
Adwight: Comparing Metroid Prime to Halo is like comparing an apple and a brick. What's wrong with enjoying both games? Or are you just a Nintendo fanboy?
Originally posted by Bri_Dog
Halo and Halo 2 are the only games on the box that I like, and I'd rather have the PC versions.
Therefor that console has only 2 games worth buying.
Halo 2 isn't even out yet, and it's very doubtful that there will be a PC version. Also, I'm incredibly tired of hearing the same old "Xbox has no games" schtick, that was certainly the case for the first six months of release no doubt but that was also the case with the PS2 and the Gamecube as well. I think it's fair to say all three consoles have an absolute glut of AAA titles now and to dismiss any of them without even looking into them means your gonna lose out on some great games.
I dunno, maybe it's just me but I don't understand disliking something like a console without properly looking into it first. I just love to play games.
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Setekh - Yeah Ninja Gaiden is pretty awsome, though can be frustrating at times...
I don't think I've ever had hatred towards the bad guys as much as I did in Ninja Gaiden. :p
Have you beat it on hard, or very hard yet? I've been trying hard, but think I might play through in Normal again to practice...
So 01010, you'd recommend Burnout3? I've been looking at that game lately...
I'll probably end up buying another Xbox game this week, I think Fable is being released, so I'm kinda torn between Fable and Burnout 3...
Would you say B3 would be fun in another couple months time?
I've heard tales of Fable's shortness, game play being 12-15hours once through, I'd still like to get it though... :)
The only game I envy from other consoles is Pikmin... I havn't played it yet, but that game just looks awsome :D
The thought of being command those little creatures to attack en-masse is heaps funny...
I was almost going to pick up a cube for that game, its cheap enough anywho...
I've got to play that game at least once... hehehe...
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I thought Halo was horrible after hiring it for Xbox. It was just... boring. In every possible way. But then again I have (apparently) very bizarre tastes in FPSes. For instance, many of you will probably think I'm mad/stupid/dead when I say I thought Unreal 2 was infinitely better than Halo. Although I will admit that Halo is quite a bit better than the abomination that was Far Cry.
With that out of the way, I'll probably look into Halo 2 if it ever comes out on PC, although I'm not really concerned whether it does or not. I just hate console FPSes (controls are too damn sluggish) so I won't even bother with the Xbox version. I'd sooner play Far Cry than buy an Xbox.
Not that I hate Xbox, I just haven't seen any games that really interest me. It's the same with all the other consoles, with the exception of PS1 which has the first Silent Hill.
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*sigh*
I'll reiterate my thoughts again
Halo PC was not a failure. Halo PC has better graphics that H-XB. If your cad does not support the graphics, that is not a problem with the game. It is a problem with graphics. I get full functionality out of it with a radeon 9700. The Xbox uses a modified GF2. The GF4 is superior to the Xbox version of the GF2. The box clearly states the requirements for the game, and if you can't meet them, you can't expect it to run.
I do not have an Xbox at all, and yet i have been playing halo since 3 months after it came out. I will play Halo 2, not because it has been hyped up by everything, but because the origonal was fun. Its the same case as FreeSpace. I didn't buy the sequel because i heard i was the most advanced game of its time, I bought it because I had already played FreeSpace1, and it was fun.
If you don't like Halo, thats fine. But you can't label a game you haven't played.
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Indeed.
Sorry Ransom Arceihn, but you are mad/stupid/dead. :p
FarCry wasn't THAT bad. I find it quite entertaining, just ramming my boat into the shoreline and flying over the island... Needless to say some of the poses the Merc's pull off, see the 'A picture is worth a thousand words thread' :p
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Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn
I thought Halo was horrible after hiring it for Xbox. It was just... boring. In every possible way. But then again I have (apparently) very bizarre tastes in FPSes. For instance, many of you will probably think I'm mad/stupid/dead when I say I thought Unreal 2 was infinitely better than Halo. Although I will admit that Halo is quite a bit better than the abomination that was Far Cry.
You are right, you have incredibly weird taste (weird could be substituted for poor). Unreal 2 was an absolute turd, a polished turd, but nonetheless, it's like they found a way to suck the fun out of shooting ****. I'm curious as to why you didn't like Far Cry though cause that's the FPS of the year for me so far, the AI was great, it was very open ended and it looked and played fantastically.
Grug: Don't even think about it, get Burnout 3 as soon as you possibly can, don't worry about not liking, you will love it, I cannot see anybody not liking that game, it's pure fun.
Originally posted by Hippo
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Halo PC was not a failure. Halo PC has better graphics that H-XB. If your cad does not support the graphics, that is not a problem with the game. It is a problem with graphics. I get full functionality out of it with a radeon 9700. The Xbox uses a modified GF2. The GF4 is superior to the Xbox version of the GF2. The box clearly states the requirements for the game, and if you can't meet them, you can't expect it to run.
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Halo PC graphics are actually identical, no textures were changed and neither were the models, the only difference is that Halo PC uses Pixel shader 2.0 rather than the XB specific shaders (it's also the reason why it ran poorly before being heavily patched) also, the Xbox has a GeForce 3 like card with it's own specific set of shaders, it's not really comparable to any PC video cards as the Xbox GPU does most of the work and not just rendering. The only graphical difference between PC and XB is resolution and Anisotropic filtering (AA is disabled).
But my point about Halo PC being a port had nothing to do with the visuals, it was the feel of the game. It just felt off.
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01010 - Sounds good. Will do :)
Will have to abuse you if your wrong though... but by the sounds of it, that is highly unlikely :D
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Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn
I thought Halo was horrible after hiring it for Xbox. It was just... boring. In every possible way. But then again I have (apparently) very bizarre tastes in FPSes. For instance, many of you will probably think I'm mad/stupid/dead when I say I thought Unreal 2 was infinitely better than Halo. Although I will admit that Halo is quite a bit better than the abomination that was Far Cry.
With that out of the way, I'll probably look into Halo 2 if it ever comes out on PC, although I'm not really concerned whether it does or not. I just hate console FPSes (controls are too damn sluggish) so I won't even bother with the Xbox version. I'd sooner play Far Cry than buy an Xbox.
Not that I hate Xbox, I just haven't seen any games that really interest me. It's the same with all the other consoles, with the exception of PS1 which has the first Silent Hill.
to note, halo's handling of vehicles was -perfect- i mean, you didn't handle the vehicles directly, you gestured at the direction, definitely a plus.. halo's multi.. was fun.. i mean, do you know of any other CTF that lets you kill people with a good square hit with the flag?:p
i found that far-cry's vehicles were.. "tacked on" you simply needed them to get to point a to point b, not nearly something of a tactical advantage later on into that game.
that said, it'd be really cool if bungie put some resources into "Oni 2" ;)
now, as for abominations.. "FireWarrior" comes to mind.. ;)
"Breed" also..
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Originally posted by Grug
01010 - Sounds good. Will do :)
Will have to abuse you if your wrong though... but by the sounds of it, that is highly unlikely :D
I sincerely believe that it is impossible to not like the game :)
I was indecisive as to whether to get it yesterday, then I spent a few minutes re-reading all the reviews, and rushed out to get it. I got there just as the shop was closing and managed to get one of the last three copies, best thing was that I traded in a few very old games and only had to pay an entire £1 for it.
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*Shudders at mention of Firewarrior*
I started playing that game on PC with the lowest possible expectations, knowing it was crap.
Yet it still managed to dissapoint beyond belief!
How can that attrocity ever got the go ahead to go Gold is beyond me.
Someone I know, said they'd heard 'Breed' was a Halo killer. I choked on my drink and had to take 20 seconds to recover before correcting them politly, telling them to burn it on sight while screaming to the villagers to take cover.
But all companies have there ups and downs (or in Firewarrior's case just plane out crap with not a smidget of fun in it).
Hopefully they take it as a lesson, and take an oath with a hand on whatever God / thing they worship and promise to never make a game as horrid as that again...
EDIT: bin - sounds good. I don't have any older games to trade in though, I usually only buy the proven games. But by the sounds of things, the money I will have to pay for it will be worth every cent :D
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Originally posted by Grug
*Shudders at mention of Firewarrior*
I started playing that game on PC with the lowest possible expectations, knowing it was crap.
Yet it still managed to dissapoint beyond belief!
How can that attrocity ever got the go ahead to go Gold is beyond me.
Someone I know, said they'd heard 'Breed' was a Halo killer. I choked on my drink and had to take 20 seconds to recover before correcting them politly, telling them to burn it on sight while screaming to the villagers to take cover.
But all companies have there ups and downs (or in Firewarrior's case just plane out crap with not a smidget of fun in it).
Hopefully they take it as a lesson, and take an oath with a hand on whatever God / thing they worship and promise to never make a game as horrid as that again...
EDIT: bin - sounds good. I don't have any older games to trade in though, I usually only buy the proven games. But by the sounds of things, the money I will have to pay for it will be worth every cent :D
breed was a halo clone, and a terrible one at that.:nod:
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Breed was a pity, it never turned out the way it was supposed to, it had huge potential but I don't think they had the money or the manpower to pull it off really. Not really a Halo clone though, they were both conceived at roughly the same time. Dire voice acting though.
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Indeed.
Guilty on all counts, I shall concur. :)
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Well I'll admit Halo's vehicles were well done. Although that hardly makes it a good game.
Grug, I happen to think Far Cry is that bad. It was an overpriced tech demo, like Doom 3, except Doom 3 was actually fun. It even had a story.
01010: How interesting. You like Halo and Far Cry and hate Unreal 2. I, on the other hand, hate Halo and Far Cry and like Unreal 2. Thus, I have poor taste simply because my opinions are not the same as yours. I think the problem is, I play games mostly for story. If I don't like the story, I'm going to get bored of the game pretty quickly. Far Cry and Halo had quite uninspired stories (I thought), while I enjoyed Unreal 2's story. There are plenty of other games I liked where others hated, this goes for practically anything like movies and books, so I'm plenty used to being told I have poor taste.
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to quote a friend of mine.. "you're entitled to your own opinion, even if it is the wrong one" :p
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Burnout 3 is awesome game indeed
Ninja Gaiden is pretty awesome on the Xbox. My brother and I just finished it, 30 hours all through.
NG is awesome because it's hard you need use tactics to win
Halo2 gonna be biggets game of 2004 no doubt about it
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lol Turnsky.
Ransom Arceihn - I'm sure mr binary was just tagging a joke on to spice things up a bit.
Well I own Doom3, and I wouldn't say that Doom3's story was all that great either... Plus it has repetitive gameplay however spooky and well scripted they are.
I for one, am one which loves a good story. Try reading some of the Halo books they add a lot more depth to the Halo story.
I might ask if you've played Homeworld (1 that is).
I thought that it had a great story, even though its gameplay was a little shorthanded at times. I loved that game for its plot and emotion.
Tis also why I felt dissapointed at Homeworld 2.
For the lack of good story telling... :(
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Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn
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01010: How interesting. You like Halo and Far Cry and hate Unreal 2. I, on the other hand, hate Halo and Far Cry and like Unreal 2. Thus, I have poor taste simply because my opinions are not the same as yours. I think the problem is, I play games mostly for story. If I don't like the story, I'm going to get bored of the game pretty quickly. Far Cry and Halo had quite uninspired stories (I thought), while I enjoyed Unreal 2's story. There are plenty of other games I liked where others hated, this goes for practically anything like movies and books, so I'm plenty used to being told I have poor taste.
I don't hate Unreal 2, it just wasn't fun, the story was generic and the weapons and enemies were fairly uninspired. I'm not alone in this by the way. You check out the average U2 review compared to the average Halo review or the average Far Cry review and you'll see the difference. Halo has a great backstory and there is a lot more going on in the game than what is handed to you in the cutscenes, a lot of the story development is in the architecture of the buildings, the design of the levels, read the books, check out the halo.bungie.org story discussion site and see how rich the Halo universe storyline is. I do agree that Far Cry's story was wank though, but the game was excellent, how do you see it as a glorified tech demo?
Also, as Grug said above, the poor taste remark was a bit of gentle ribbing, no hard feelings eh? ;)
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Originally posted by Ransom Arceihn
Well I'll admit Halo's vehicles were well done. Although that hardly makes it a good game.
Grug, I happen to think Far Cry is that bad. It was an overpriced tech demo, like Doom 3, except Doom 3 was actually fun. It even had a story.
I knew, I wasn't the only one who thought that. IMO, the utter and complete lack of story in Far Cry made it very often very repetive, because of the similarity of enemies, and environments. I admit, I never finished the game. Got too bored of it.
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Originally posted by Hippo
*sigh*
I'll reiterate my thoughts again
Halo PC was not a failure. Halo PC has better graphics that H-XB. If your cad does not support the graphics, that is not a problem with the game. It is a problem with graphics. I get full functionality out of it with a radeon 9700. The Xbox uses a modified GF2. The GF4 is superior to the Xbox version of the GF2. The box clearly states the requirements for the game, and if you can't meet them, you can't expect it to run.
My PC vastly exceeds the requirements for Halo, and it barely runs at lowest res with everything turned off (and it wasn;t all that pretty a game to start off with). Slowdown makes it unplayable at points, especially with the flood. It's a botch job, pure & simple - otherwise why would Gearbox have released a CE version to try and get over it?
NB: Burnout 3 kicks arse. It's quite simply completely nucking futs :D
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I would add Full Spectrum Warrior to the "Reasons to buy an XBox" list. Ninja Gaiden was good but the bosses were just a pain in the ass, especially as there was usually no warning of their arrival. (even though being the only one to be able to kill the Chopper earned me some short lived respect from my peers!)
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FSW is on the PC, though (think it recently went gold)...... I'd venture that you can only buy consoles for a game if that game is exclusive (at least for a certain period of time) - i.e. Metriod on Gamecube, GTA on PS2, Halo on X-box, etc.
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All of you with X-Boxes: I hate you. DIAF.
:p
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Other good games on Xbox include Rallisport 2, that game is pure enjoyment. I really can't get bored of watching my car fall apart as I take it over a cliff side.
I got a console mainly because:
A: Its cheaper then buying a new computer to run all of the newest games.
B: Its portable.
C: Split screen play is fun as heck, especially when you have 4 xbox's linked. (BTW, I read somewhere that you could link like, 6 xbox's for Halo 2, this true?)
D: Co-op is incredible on Halo, first night I got my xbox I spent 5 hours playing co-op up to 343 Guilty Spark. By that time it was night, and I was getting reeeaallly creeped out.
E: HDTV support. I like having a huge screen.
F: Bean bag support. I can sit on a bean bag and play all day.
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Originally posted by 01010
I don't hate Unreal 2, it just wasn't fun, the story was generic and the weapons and enemies were fairly uninspired. I'm not alone in this by the way. You check out the average U2 review compared to the average Halo review or the average Far Cry review and you'll see the difference. Halo has a great backstory and there is a lot more going on in the game than what is handed to you in the cutscenes, a lot of the story development is in the architecture of the buildings, the design of the levels, read the books, check out the halo.bungie.org story discussion site and see how rich the Halo universe storyline is. I do agree that Far Cry's story was wank though, but the game was excellent, how do you see it as a glorified tech demo?
General disagreements on U2 aside, I know that Halo and Far Cry got good reviews, and that U2 got bad ones. I'm not really sure how this is relevant though, since obviously I disagree (I disagree with a lot of reviews as you may have guessed by now :p). About the story, though, I like stories based on how much I enjoy them, so whether U2's story was generic or not doesn't make much difference.
Halo, well, I'm sure the story is incredibly deep and complicated if you read the books and so on. But I'm not talking about the story on its own, I'm talking about the story in the game. And what was in the game wasn't that good. I did enjoy the cutscenes though, but the huge gaps between them with monotonous shooting of about 5 different types of enemies through repetitive levels took away any effect in my opinion.
Now Far Cry, there's another reason why I don't like it. It's too damn realistic - not gameplay terms, but in the setting. Weapons, armies of mercs, vehicles, I just don't like realistic stuff. This is the same reason why I don't like Counter Strike. The setting just fails to excite me.
@ Grug: I know Doom 3's story isn't all that complicated, but it's certainly more complicated than Far Cry's, and the difference is that I enjoyed D3's story a hell of a lot more. Yes, I've played Homeworld; damn excellent game. Haven't finished Homeworld 2 yet, but so far the story does look worse. Have you played Cataclysm?
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Yeah I've played Cataclysm, it was alright too I guess, but I'll still stand by Homeworld 1 as being the best of the series story wise...
Cataclysm is the only one I don't own, mainly for the reason it doesn't work with XP and my computer for some reason. :(
I won't spoil the ending of Homeworld2 for you, but there are just some stupid things that they tell you about, which gives you the impression your supposed to know but have heard no mention of it in previous games...
But again, Homeworld2 was deadlined by publishers, so its a pity they didn't have time to get the story on at least a par to Homeworld1. :(
I don't really like Counter Strike either, its probably more repetitive as the circumference of a circle. :p
I enjoyed the story in Halo the game, it was afterwards I read some of the books and backstory...
On a side note, one of the big upgrades in Halo2 is the cinematics, they said there is no comparison between the slap together ones in Halo1 to the theatrical cinematics in Halo2.
Here's hoping it turns out to be true! :D
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Originally posted by Grug
Yeah I've played Cataclysm, it was alright too I guess, but I'll still stand by Homeworld 1 as being the best of the series story wise...
Cataclysm is the only one I don't own, mainly for the reason it doesn't work with XP and my computer for some reason. :(
I won't spoil the ending of Homeworld2 for you, but there are just some stupid things that they tell you about, which gives you the impression your supposed to know but have heard no mention of it in previous games...
But again, Homeworld2 was deadlined by publishers, so its a pity they didn't have time to get the story on at least a par to Homeworld1. :(
I don't really like Counter Strike either, its probably more repetitive as the circumference of a circle. :p
I enjoyed the story in Halo the game, it was afterwards I read some of the books and backstory...
On a side note, one of the big upgrades in Halo2 is the cinematics, they said there is no comparison between the slap together ones in Halo1 to the theatrical cinematics in Halo2.
Here's hoping it turns out to be true! :D
i think it's because bungie had more time to flesh halo2 out than halo1, 'because there wasn't a console release hanging over their heads, most likely.. :p
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Indeed.
Plus with the success of the first, they gained the power to say 'Its done when its done' to their puplishers they can give it more of a polishing touch. :D
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Indeed.
Plus with the success of the first, they gained the power to say 'Its done when its done' to their puplishers they can give it more of a polishing touch. :D
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Originally posted by Grug
Yeah I've played Cataclysm, it was alright too I guess, but I'll still stand by Homeworld 1 as being the best of the series story wise...
Cataclysm is the only one I don't own, mainly for the reason it doesn't work with XP and my computer for some reason. :(
I won't spoil the ending of Homeworld2 for you, but there are just some stupid things that they tell you about, which gives you the impression your supposed to know but have heard no mention of it in previous games...
But again, Homeworld2 was deadlined by publishers, so its a pity they didn't have time to get the story on at least a par to Homeworld1. :(
I don't really like Counter Strike either, its probably more repetitive as the circumference of a circle. :p
I enjoyed the story in Halo the game, it was afterwards I read some of the books and backstory...
On a side note, one of the big upgrades in Halo2 is the cinematics, they said there is no comparison between the slap together ones in Halo1 to the theatrical cinematics in Halo2.
Here's hoping it turns out to be true! :D
I'll agree with that, while I really enjoyed Cataclysm, it didn't have the emotion of Homeworld 1.
As I said with Halo 2, I'll look into it if they ever make a PC version, but won't bother with the console version - even if I wanted to I simply can't afford an Xbox, and I'm useless with console FPSes anyway.
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Originally posted by Grug
Setekh - Yeah Ninja Gaiden is pretty awsome, though can be frustrating at times...
I don't think I've ever had hatred towards the bad guys as much as I did in Ninja Gaiden. :p
Have you beat it on hard, or very hard yet? I've been trying hard, but think I might play through in Normal again to practice...
Oh man, I totally agree. The first incarnation of Alma was particularly infuriating. But I still loved that game - I was raised up on the original series. Awesome stuff. ;)
I did try Very Hard briefly, as soon as it was unlocked. After dying at the hands of a few White Ninjas in Ninja Fortress at the start of the game, I quickly gave up. :lol: Still, I really enjoy giving it a bash after a long day at uni. Nothing quite as satisfying as cutting monsters up with sweet sword combos. :D
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Originally posted by Setekh
I did try Very Hard briefly, as soon as it was unlocked. After dying at the hands of a few White Ninjas in Ninja Fortress at the start of the game, I quickly gave up. :lol: Still, I really enjoy giving it a bash after a long day at uni. Nothing quite as satisfying as cutting monsters up with sweet sword combos. :D
in very hard mode I'am in Chapter 8: Tairon Under Alert:p (haven't played it in month)
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Indeed. :lol:
What's your favourite weapon?
The Dragon sword seems to stick the most with me. But its still fun everynow and then to whip out the good 'ol Vigoran Flails and bash up some Fiends with a 70 hit combo. ;) hehehe.
Kudos to you Holy Imperial Gloriano, I don't think I'll ever get that far.
You must be very fluid with the controls. Takes much concentration from me just to fight off a few guys without taking a hit. :p
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Originally posted by Grug
Indeed. :lol:
What's your favourite weapon?
The Dragon sword seems to stick the most with me. But its still fun everynow and then to whip out the good 'ol Vigoran Flails and bash up some Fiends with a 70 hit combo. ;) hehehe.
Most time I'am using Dragon sword
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Tairon Under Alert? Oh no, I'm terrible at that level. All the Vigoorian soldiers do to me is impale and explode me. :ick:
Yeah, I used to go for the Dragon Sword myself - it does have some truly worthy combos - but just to be different, I like equipping the Armlet of Tranquility (gives you health slowly) and using the Kitetsu (takes away your health slowly). When you split it into two swords, it just looks awesome sometimes. ;) Apart from that, I'm still working on having enough money to get all the upgrades for the Wooden Sword - I mean, it's gotta get decent when it's level 6, right? :lol:
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:lol:
Something special happens when you get a fully upgraded Wooden Sword, but I can't remember where I read it...
I heard something about 'successive mode' which gave me the impression you can continue playing after beating the game... but I beat it on normal and can't see anything. Did either of you guys spot this?
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No, I didn't. I do know that if you stay on the same level of difficulty (i.e. normal, after beating it on normal), your golden scarab count continues on from last game - but apart from that, I don't know how to active that sort of thing either. It'd be fun, though, destroying Brown Ninjas with 8-move combos. ;)
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Yeah, I reckon.
One fellow, said that after you complete the game you can actually use the Dark Dragon blade to deal out the pain. I'm all cut up about this now. :(
I'll have to have a little snoop around in the game, and on the web and see what I can dig up...
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Oh, yeah, I know how to do that. Not that I have. ;) You've gotta play through the game a second time and get all the way to Chapter 13... then you can find the blade somewhere around Ninja Fortress. Crazy. ;)
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Awsome, I'll have to check it out. :D
Thanks for the tip ;)