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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: Blitzerland on September 13, 2004, 04:42:18 pm
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As i'm currently designing mission 16 for my campaign, and I just noticed that the way I executed mission 15, there are many, many ways I can do mission 16.
That, and my natural curiousity has gotten the best of me.
So, what is your favorite type of mission?
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heavy assault, like on a convoy, crusiers n freighters n lots of fighters, definently my fav:nod:
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I'm partial to bombing missions.
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As long as it doesn't involve defending a Big Pansy Target from Crap Loads Of Bombers, then I'm game for anything :)
I've always liked being part of a big fur-ball in the middle of a cap-ship fleet battle 'tho :D
Bombing the crap out of capships or long-range interception in an Ares loaded with trees always appeals to me as well 'tho ;)
(*sob* Okay I admit it! I liked those B-campaigns! :p)
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Hey, just because it tis a huge battle involving capital ships, doesn't mean it is a BoE, or a B-Campaign. They can be done right.
But you're right, Cyker, those are my favorite, too. Being in the midst of a huge, un-godly, vicious, to-end-all battle of doom is incredibly fun...and immersive.
:yes:
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Heavy assault gets a vote from me, too. Defense missions leave you worrying too much about whatever ship you have to babysit for you to actually have any fun. Intercept missions are fast-paced, but much like pure defense, you spend too much time shooting down bombs and not dogfighting. Bombing runs can be fun, but bombers themselves are generally sluggish, making it abnormally hard to avoid your target's defenses, or enemy interceptors.
For good examples of classic heavy assault, check out Hellfire and Secrets Revealed (sort of) (Silent Threat), A Lion at the Door and Into the Lion's Den (FS2), and Small Deadly Space, The Darkness and the Light, La Ruota Della Fortuna, and Reaching the Zenith (FS1).
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anything where I get to beat hte crap out of cruisers and a lot of fighters ;)
Maybe do de-beaming runs in the middle of enemy flak if needed too :D
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Same as Singh
EDIT: And by the way, if you're going to do an escort mission, please make sure that none of the incoming fighters and/or bombers are carrying Trebuchets, otherwise I can almost garentee it will be nearly impossible to beat.
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The only mission type's I didnt like was asteroid shooting, stuff that you cant influence, missions where you are super Alpha 1 and scanning missions(I never liked em "fly here, stop. Fly here,stop" etc.)
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Assault or Escort missions. Assault mission if I do not have to defend anything but myself and Escort if I have to fight alongside with a destroyer or a corvette.
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Escorting a convoy of thin-skinned freighters and transports, with maybe a friendly cruiser or two thrown in.
Basically, if you don't do your job, those freighters are toast. If one or two bombs get through... BOOM! If you let those pesky enemy fighters have a run of the mill... BOOM!
Don't need big capital ships to keep you busy, although throwing in an enemy cruiser or corvette also adds to the nuttiness.
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I like the idea that in escort missions that if an enemy cruiser turns up, it shouldnt be Alpha's job to deal with it. Command if it were smart (which lets face, is more deadly to the GTVA than the Shivans) they would deploy something to deal with it (or cruiser escort goes intercept). Even if all the player had to do was get the main beam on the ship.
Though none of this is really related. Hmm more of a rant really.
Perhaps I should shut up?
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Originally posted by Fergus
Though none of this is really related. Hmm more of a rant really.
Perhaps I should shut up? [/B]
Nah. That was plenty related, ya' fool! By the way, Zarax will be PMing you shortly, Fergus.
Now THAT wasn't related.
*Dodges carp thrown by cat
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When caus I need to do paper on Individualist or Collective responsibility soon(ish)?
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Bombing runs, one of my fave missions from FS2 is The Kings Gambit.
[size=15]BOOM![/b][/size]
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Wait never mind.
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I'm a bomber pilot at heart, I suppose, although the rather odd truth is that I kinda like dogfighting in a bomber; maybe it's feeling of security that comes from having heavy shields. Well, except the Ursa. I could like the Ursa, even, if it weren't for the arrangement of its guns. I have a few missions that I've made (which threaten to turn into a campaign) where you play as part of a scout-bomber squadron and have to do your own dogfighting in addition to bombing runs against various targets.
But some of my favorite missions are ones that change type or are mixed. It's an assault mission, but you're flying close escort for a capital ship while other squadrons and the capship do the assaulting part, or it starts as an assault mission but becomes an escort one when Command decides to capture that capship you just disabled.
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Anything that includes taking down fast and deadly fighters is fun. I just love chasing enemy fighters and engaging in fast paced dogfights.
But since you ask for "type of mission", my answer will be: "B.R. type" mission. :D
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I guess it's cheating if I said a mix?
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Huge dogfights are fun. With the power of SCP, you can have up to 120 fighters (I think). Tis like a BoE, except with FIGHTERS! And the player actually has an effect in the battle.
Good choice, Lightspeed. Those are my favorite, too.
*Cats toss kudos bars at Lightspeed
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I'd rather have a good 6 vs 15 dogfight, than some weird 45 vs 81 dogfight I have absolutely no importance in.
And the FS2 retail-ish (Alpha) 1 vs 35 (stupid AI crap) dogfights are just lame.
Although the changed AI code has supposedly "unbalanced" all old missions, it helped a lot (for me) to make the game more fun. You're only really on the enjoyable edge with FS1 or of course custom campaigns like HomeSick, TVWP or Shrouding the Light, where the AI actually can get dangerous for you :)
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No, no. Pratically even, huge dogfights are fun, especially if you are skilled at commanding your wingmen. Watching thirty fighters band together to mob a single bomber wing is awe-inspiring.
Even more awe-inspiring is watching the thirty fighters get cut down by thirty other fighters while they're busy killing off the bombers :D
You let my cats down, Lightspeed. You cut them deep. :D
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Although the changed AI code has supposedly "unbalanced" all old missions,
The Trebuchet bug doesn't just "unbalance" some missions, it makes them completly impossible. Have you ever tried to first mission of Warzone using SCP? It is impossible.
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My favourite missions are the ones that invoke an emotional response from the player because of their story. Some examples from the FS2 campaign would be In the Lions Den (dive! dive! dive! - - - *kaploop*, yo I just filled my pants playing Freespace!), or Their Finest Hour ("you call that a fleet command?"). Typically these missions are rare because of their pivotal importance to the story.
Non-canon examples would include something like the dream from Derelict or some of the ending stages of Homesick.
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multiplayer - Coops and TvTs
... I know that was no option, but the thread title was taunting me :D
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Why wouldn't it be an option? I didn't post a list of options. You can just post your favorite type of mission.
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I like missions where they start off one way, then circumstances change and you're forced to adapt, and then circumstances change again and you have to adapt again. Long missions rock. ;)
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Long missions? Yes, those are fun.
Except for this one I played in Inferno (which overall, I though rocked) where the mission is twenty minutes long, and the last two minutes are the hardest.
Thus, you die, you start all over, and have to make it through the eighteen tedious minutes to get to the last two that are the most new and intense.
And what if you lose again? :D
A good example of a classical long mission:
The third mission of Freespace 1. Escorting a convoy...some weak Vasudan attack craft jump in...pop em' easily...everything looks good...suddenly...SHIVANS! HOLY CRAP! EVERYONE'S DEAD! I'M GOING DOWN! MAYDAY! MAAAAAYDA--eagrttyjaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeee
*Contact Lost*
Very well done. Good point, Setekh.
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Except for this one I played in Inferno (which overall, I though rocked) where the mission is twenty minutes long, and the last two minutes are the hardest.
That I'm guessing would be the last one over Earth. Which I agree, took a great many efforts to overcome.
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Yup. That's the one.
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Especially with some SCP builds... the balance gradually got thrown off. We're trying to fix it, so in the meantime, make sure to play it using FS2 retail. :)
Originally posted by Blitzerland
The third mission of Freespace 1. Escorting a convoy...some weak Vasudan attack craft jump in...pop em' easily...everything looks good...suddenly...SHIVANS! HOLY CRAP! EVERYONE'S DEAD! I'M GOING DOWN! MAYDAY! MAAAAAYDA--eagrttyjaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeee
*Contact Lost*
Er... the third mission of FS1 is the attack on a Vasudan cargo depot. Do you mean the fifth, with the GTSC Plato? While I agree it's a good mission, it's not particularly long.
The longest FS1 mission, I think, was Exodus. Fifteen-twenty minutes of escorting convoy ships around, and blowing up two cruisers to boot. Much fun. :)
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Isn't the first mission defending the GTC Orff, the SECOND striking the depot, and the third with the plato?
EDIT: Not counting training, of course. :D
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No.
1) Defend the Orff
2) Root out the Vasudans in the asteroid field
3) Attack the Vasudan cargo depot
4) Recover the Avenger prototype
5) Meet the Shivans
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Really? OH YEAH!
*Slaps self
How could I forget?!
STUPID! STUPID!
Forgive my stupidity, Goober.
Oh, and good luck with TVWP. Can't wait for that one :D
Not sure if I deserve to play it...but I will anyways! :ha:
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I like the kind of mission with boobies.
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Uh...boobies?
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...female pilots?
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Booby Traps?
Like cargo with Helios in them?
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Who knows what he meant? Man, isn't he confusing.
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Is there some joke-ship that escaped from Poser we should know about, Knight Templar...?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
I like the kind of mission with boobies.
You mean stupid people? ;7
Do you mean the fifth, with the GTSC Plato? While I agree it's a good mission, it's not particularly long
It can be, mostly because it takes forever to punch through it's shields with furies (since Rockeyes wont home in, although I have seen them do that for my wingmen).
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Originally posted by Kosh
It can be, mostly because it takes forever to punch through it's shields with furies (since Rockeyes wont home in, although I have seen them do that for my wingmen).
Yeah...your wingmen have no trouble targeting shivans. :doubt: