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Title: Planet piccy
Post by: aldo_14 on September 14, 2004, 12:36:39 pm
Telescope snaps distant 'planet' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3644410.stm)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40056000/jpg/_40056584_eso_203.jpg)
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Blitzerland on September 14, 2004, 12:49:03 pm
I can see the headlines now:

*Types up rude, cynical story...

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Planet inhabited by friendly tabby cats. President seeks declaration of war.

Bush: We must attack them! KILL! NUKE!

Reporter: But why?

Bush: Well, dagnabit, they're not like us, so they must posess lethal weapons of mass destruction! Duuuuuuuuuuuh.

Reporter: You are aware that all weapons of mass destruction are lethal, right?

Bush: Uh...9/11!

Reporter: Right. How will we get to their planet, anyways?

Bush: Ask Kerrey first. After he makes a fool of himself, i'll have a better, scheming, lie-infested answer ready.

Aide: Sir, you're over-communicating!

Reporter: Dear god in heaven...

--------------------------------------------------------------------


Yup. I can see it now...
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Unknown Target on September 14, 2004, 12:56:33 pm
Oh shut up.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Blitzerland on September 14, 2004, 12:59:27 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Oh shut up.



Ah, I have touched a nerve.

EDIT: Sorry if I offended you...but really, if we ever did discover an alien race, do you think we would honestly try to make peace? Human nature and all that? It was just a joke, dude.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Unknown Target on September 14, 2004, 01:10:46 pm
No, you didn't offend me, I just find it annoying that every single thread has to be turned into somehow bashing the US, even when it's nowhere near related.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Ace on September 14, 2004, 01:20:07 pm
Ermm he's beating Bush, not the whole US.

Well... technically he's beating up half of the US if you count the people who actually voted for shrub.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Night Hammer on September 14, 2004, 01:24:02 pm
he could be bashing 1/100 of the US hes still bashing the US, thats no good, cuz im sure we can say enough about any other country in the world, except  Aussies and Brazilians cuz every Aussie and Brazilian  chick ive ever seen is damned hott
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Blitzerland on September 14, 2004, 01:25:20 pm
I love the U.S. I live there, afterall. As a matter of fact, I am actually a very,very patriotic person.

However, I hate our leadership. Now, let us stop hijacking this guy's thread. :)

EDIT: And you're all fooling yourselves if you think I can beat ANYTHING up literally.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: vyper on September 14, 2004, 01:36:07 pm
For **** sake you bunch of....
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Gloriano on September 14, 2004, 01:58:42 pm
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Originally posted by Blitzerland
EDIT: Sorry if I offended you...but really, if we ever did discover an alien race, do you think we would honestly try to make peace? Human nature and all that? It was just a joke, dude.


Well I still believe that humans could do peaceful contact IF we ever found another Species Okey maybe USA can't do peaceful contact was that you were saying? (well I can say that USA can do peaceful contact too. That is if they don't sink and turn to Military nation (under Bush.jr 20th) and that would suck

Edit: . to topic well it's really nice that new planets been founding maybe in future NASA founds something important that change humanity forever
(founds new life somewhere)


Oh and USA bashing must stop
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Shrike on September 14, 2004, 02:28:21 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Blitzerland
I can see the headlines now:

*Types up rude, cynical story...

------------------------------------------------------------------

Planet inhabited by friendly tabby cats. President seeks declaration of war.

Bush: We must attack them! KILL! NUKE!

Reporter: But why?

Bush: Well, dagnabit, they're not like us, so they must posess lethal weapons of mass destruction! Duuuuuuuuuuuh.

Reporter: You are aware that all weapons of mass destruction are lethal, right?

Bush: Uh...9/11!

Reporter: Right. How will we get to their planet, anyways?

Bush: Ask Kerrey first. After he makes a fool of himself, i'll have a better, scheming, lie-infested answer ready.

Aide: Sir, you're over-communicating!

Reporter: Dear god in heaven...

--------------------------------------------------------------------


Yup. I can see it now...
That has got to be most retarded post I've read today.  You'll make a fine addition to Kerry's necro-bot army.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Night Hammer on September 14, 2004, 02:30:52 pm
Good call Shrike,


Now back to the post whered they see that planet at, like beyond pluto or out in another system?
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Ghostavo on September 14, 2004, 02:41:48 pm
Another system obviously... look at the link and image... it's a star!! And the planet is huge (if it is one).
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Rictor on September 14, 2004, 02:45:28 pm
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Originally posted by Shrike
That has got to be most retarded post I've read today.  You'll make a fine addition to Kerry's necro-bot army.


Shush! When they Xangrilans invade, President Kerry will be the only thing standing between them and our destruction. After he jumps off his spaceship to save a fallen comrade, then you'll be sorry you doubted him.

oh and, er, cool news about the planet thing.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Blitzerland on September 14, 2004, 03:40:44 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
Another system obviously... look at the link and image... it's a star!! And the planet is huge (if it is one).



By the way, I will never ever ever attempt any sort of political joke ever again. Not my thing. Not pretty.

Anywho, yes, that star is huge. The planet is probably similar to mercury, much of the surface "fried" off, with mainly the core remaining (ever wondered why Mercury's core was so freakin' large compared to the surface)?
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Blitzerland on September 14, 2004, 03:42:12 pm
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Originally posted by Rictor


Shush! When they Xangrilans invade, President Kerry will be the only thing standing between them and our destruction. After he jumps off his spaceship to save a fallen comrade, then you'll be sorry you doubted him.

oh and, er, cool news about the planet thing.


Umm...dude...it was a bad joke...don't even sound like yer supporting me or you'll get flamed to death!

ENOUGH POLITICAL CRUD!!

But yes, that planet is cool. Nice pic.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Ghostavo on September 14, 2004, 03:53:10 pm
The planet is not similar to mercury in any form besides maybe in temperature. That is a gas giant. It's f*cking huge, look at the size of it. (again if it is a planet)
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Blitzerland on September 14, 2004, 03:54:56 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ghostavo
The planet is not similar to mercury in any form besides maybe in temperature. That is a gas giant. It's f*cking huge, look at the size of it. (again if it is a planet)


My bad. Didn't read the article. Just looked at the picture.

Can you say, laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy?

Sorry about that.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Rictor on September 14, 2004, 03:57:33 pm
huh? I'm always like this, and besides: saar-chasm.

However, I find you lack of faith disturbing. Unlike Bush, President Kerry will be tough on no-good freedom-hating aliens. He will personally lead the fleet to repel the alien advance from this strange new world, and quite possibly, though don't quote me on this, beach his warship and get out on foot for some face-to face alien asskicking action.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Tiara on September 14, 2004, 04:05:40 pm
That planet is actually VERY small. If that sun is actually what I think it is, a white dwarf, then the red planet orbiting it is about 1/5th the size of the US as a white dwarf is +/- the size of the US (in equatorial diameter).

That planet would roughly equal about 1.5x Pluto in size.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Blitzerland on September 14, 2004, 04:06:43 pm
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Originally posted by Rictor
huh? I'm always like this, and besides: saar-chasm.
 



I like it too, but a lot of people do not, so I won't do it again.
By the way, we have no budget for a fleet :P
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: aldo_14 on September 14, 2004, 04:10:47 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
That planet is actually VERY small. If that sun is actually what I think it is, a white dwarf, then the red planet orbiting it is about 1/5th the size of the US as a white dwarf is +/- the size of the US (in equatorial diameter).

That planet would roughly equal about 1.5x Pluto in size.


The star, called 2M1207, is 230 light-years away and is very much smaller and fainter than our own Sun.

SNIP

These observations will take a year or so. In the meantime, the astronomers are referring to the object as a "giant planet candidate companion".

SNIP

The researchers say the spectrum obtained is probably that of a "young and hot planet" that will cool down to become a gas-giant world like Jupiter.


If we can see it from here...it's not likely to be very small in celestial terms.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Tiara on September 14, 2004, 04:14:52 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


The star, called 2M1207, is 230 light-years away and is very much smaller and fainter than our own Sun.

SNIP

These observations will take a year or so. In the meantime, the astronomers are referring to the object as a "giant planet candidate companion".

SNIP

The researchers say the spectrum obtained is probably that of a "young and hot planet" that will cool down to become a gas-giant world like Jupiter.


If we can see it from here...it's not likely to be very small in celestial terms.

Size doesn't really matter if the reflection of light is strong enough. After all, all we're seeing are rays of light.

Besides, in a sense, the picture we're looking at is over 230 years old :p
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Blitzerland on September 14, 2004, 04:19:41 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara

Size doesn't really matter if the reflection of light is strong enough. After all, all we're seeing are rays of light.

Besides, in a sense, the picture we're looking at is over 230 years old :p


Very true. Hey, the Big Dipper could be gone and we wouldn't know about it. :p
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Ghostavo on September 14, 2004, 04:47:47 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
That planet is actually VERY small. If that sun is actually what I think it is, a white dwarf, then the red planet orbiting it is about 1/5th the size of the US as a white dwarf is +/- the size of the US (in equatorial diameter).

That planet would roughly equal about 1.5x Pluto in size.


http://www.sc.eso.org/~gchauvin/Gg222.pdf

(http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2004/images/phot-26a-04-preview.jpg)

About twice the distance between the sun and neptune!


Quote
The researchers say the spectrum obtained is probably that of a "young and hot planet" that will cool down to become a gas-giant world like Jupiter.


http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2004/pr-23-04.html

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model calculations point to a 5 jupiter-mass planet in orbit around 2M1207


If your still insist this is a small object, you have either got to be refering to a neutron star or a black hole. :p
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Tiara on September 14, 2004, 05:03:37 pm
Ok, now I'm confused... Which one was the planet and which one was the star :p
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Ghostavo on September 14, 2004, 05:12:25 pm
The star is the big bright one

EDIT:

Oh and

(http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2004/images/phot-26c-04-preview.jpg)
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Flipside on September 14, 2004, 05:18:55 pm
:lol: I don't know whats funnier, the general confusion or Tiara saying Size isn't important ;)
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Tiara on September 14, 2004, 05:48:35 pm
Size isn't, girth is.

Think about that one for a while :D
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Carl on September 14, 2004, 07:21:56 pm
there is no way it's small. of the 120 or so non-solar system planets we've found in the last decade, all of them have been at least a dozen times more massive than earth, partially because anything smaller would be un detectable.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Shrike on September 14, 2004, 07:36:12 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
Size isn't, girth is.

Think about that one for a while :D
Indeed.  If you're too fat you can't fit through doors.
Title: Planet piccy
Post by: Black Wolf on September 14, 2004, 09:52:38 pm
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Originally posted by Carl
there is no way it's small. of the 120 or so non-solar system planets we've found in the last decade, all of them have been at least a dozen times more massive than earth, partially because anything smaller would be un detectable.


True, though that's largely because until now they've not been able to get them visually IIRC, but found em through analysis of the motion of the star and stuff. Presumably we'd be able to physically see stuff somewhat smaller than this if it was closer, but it's hard to know where to look.