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Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 15, 2004, 07:35:23 am
OK,my little brother is playing Starcraft online, but since he is only 9, but somehow manages to typ 3 words of English, my parents want to monitor the chats. Now, aside from hanging over his shoulder all the time, which is annoying for all concerned, I'd like to stuff it all in a text file, and let that be read by my parents. Any chances of doing that?
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Thorn on September 15, 2004, 08:00:12 am
I dont think thats possible with B.net. You may want to email Blizzard though.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Janos on September 15, 2004, 08:29:00 am
Why on the hell is your 9-year old brother playing Starcraft anyways?

Just give him Max Payne already.

budum-tshh
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Ghostavo on September 15, 2004, 08:34:22 am
No!!

Let him join the broods :drevil:
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 15, 2004, 08:40:26 am
Hell, it's the only game that works on his P266.

'sides, I don't intend to let him loose on FSOPXO.

Seriously, I'll search the blizzard site some more, but tips are greatly welcomed.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Genryu on September 15, 2004, 09:52:40 am
Grab a keylogger, you know, those nifty little programs that logs all of the key pressed. Sure, you'll have gibberish due to use of shorcuts in SC, but, I think that's the only solution in your case.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 15, 2004, 09:55:25 am
It's more of the stuff others write, that concerns me.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kode on September 15, 2004, 09:57:59 am
so let him play with me and my neighbour...

no, wait, on second thought... don't. unless you wanna teach him swedish curses.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 15, 2004, 12:23:51 pm
That wouldn't be too grand an idea, no.

If I think of the chance that the WS crowd is playing SC with him, I just shudder.

Seriously, I'd really like a way to monitor his chats, and more importantly, the recieved messages. Call me net paranoid, but I know by now what kind of complete dirtbags play online games. And I'm not talking about pedofiles or something either, just your average 13 year old idiot screaming Puffy Didlidy lyrics down the voice comm. Not the kind of envirment fit for a nine year old, is it?
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 15, 2004, 01:42:13 pm
So you're all happy for him to play a game based around the concept of galaxy-wide xenocide, but you're worried that someone might say 'fu[color=2343][/color]ck'?
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 15, 2004, 01:44:59 pm
Err, yeah.

Even TV contains the xenocide, the murders, and whatever. And call me a hypocrite, but Starcraft isn't that gory. Sure, Zergs are ugly and marines go splat, but there's much worse on TV.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Rictor on September 15, 2004, 01:48:20 pm
aw c'mon, leave the kid alone. I can understand how your parents might want to monitor him, but not why you would not to help them (especially in this case, where even if its possible, its alot of work). I don't mean to preach, really I don't, but I'm not a big fan of "protecting" kids from whatever life has to throw at them. And anyway, its Starcraft, the worst that could happen is he could start talking like a Korean nerd (kekekeke). Its not like he's in a NAMBLA chatroom or anything.

...and to answer you question, I have no idea how you would go about doing it :D :D
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 15, 2004, 01:49:57 pm
I'm gonna revert to my elitism, computer-geek, database of phrases and say: THE INTERNET WASN'T MADE TO SERVICE THE ENTERTAINMENT NEEDS OF CHILDREN!

A nine year old shouldn't be playing video games, let alone wandering off into the recesses of the internet.

Hows about you get your parents to actually do some ****ing parenting instead of sitting him infront of a computer and *****ing that a technological marvel designed to defend the world against nuclear annihilation doesn't cater to the anti-profane needs of their faggoty little kid.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Ghostavo on September 15, 2004, 01:52:25 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
And call me a hypocrite (...)


Hypocrite!! :p

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Sure, Zergs are ugly


Racist!! :p
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 15, 2004, 01:58:29 pm
The problem is not that I'm totally scared of him learning bad words (if I was, I wouldn't talk to him), but just the fact that we have no idea of what he's doing. As for giving him a break, well, let's just say I don't trust the world at large.

And an0n, really, what is more invasive, wathcing over is shoulder, all the time he sits behind a PC (only wednesdays and saturdays, in case you were wondering), or logging the damn chats and reading the logs once in a while?
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 15, 2004, 02:01:33 pm
If. He. Is. Not. Mature. Enough. To. Go. On. B-Net. Unsupervised. He. Is. Not. Mature. Enough. To. Go. On. The. Internet.

And what the **** is a 9 year old going to talk about? It's not like he's going to sit there discussing the metaphysical ramifications of the martial bond in the context of a family environment with some French kid while his Zerg hordes storm a Marine stronghold.

He's going to talk about Power Rangers and call people fags.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 15, 2004, 02:07:43 pm
Fair enough.

Still, any usefull idea's?
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 15, 2004, 02:09:08 pm
Don't use a key logger.

Starcraft will keep the text in a buffer file somewhere. Just make something in C++ that'll copy that file every 5 minutes while SC is running.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Fergus on September 15, 2004, 02:09:19 pm
Lol you obviously don't know some 9 year old's I've seen.  Sorry bit random.  Best to ignore, still good luck to him, I was rubbish at SC.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 15, 2004, 02:14:24 pm
an0n: Thanks, I'll try it.

Is this geusstemating on your side, or have you dicked around with SC stuff before?
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 15, 2004, 02:16:02 pm
It's a guess.

But it's got to keep the data somewhere. Hopefully it'll keep it in a format vaguely resembling standard text.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Rictor on September 15, 2004, 02:21:01 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
If. He. Is. Not. Mature. Enough. To. Go. On. B-Net. Unsupervised. He. Is. Not. Mature. Enough. To. Go. On. The. Internet.

And what the **** is a 9 year old going to talk about? It's not like he's going to sit there discussing the metaphysical ramifications of the martial bond in the context of a family environment with some French kid while his Zerg hordes storm a Marine stronghold.

He's going to talk about Power Rangers and call people fags.

yeah well, in that case you should get his ICQ number. Cause I hear the new season, Power Rangers Super Ninja Time Force is the best one yet.

and I was playing Indiana Jones and Fate of Atlantis when I was 9 years old, so don't tell me kids aren't "mature" enough. I evaded Nazis, piloted a hot ait baloon through the desert, consorted with ancient spirits, found Atlatnis and navigated it deadly catacombs, so don't tell me kids are too young or immature.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 15, 2004, 02:23:36 pm
There's a slight difference between Lucas Arts adventure games and Starcraft.

Namely, SC consists of building soldiers and killing the enemy. LA games consist of puzzle-solving and reasoning things out. If they weren't so much fun, they'd probably be classed as educational and distributed to schools.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Stealth on September 15, 2004, 02:52:02 pm
that's bull**** about your parents wanting to know "what other people are typing to him".  you're just a nosy sob that wants to know what his brother says/knows/is told.  i know because three years ago i did the same thing to my little brother, and then i realized how petty i was being, and i quit.

also, to my knowledge, there's no program that can log what other people type... unless you somehow hack into the SC engine.  there's ways of setting up bots to follow your brother into various channels and log every word that's said within that channel (what your brother says, what people say to him, etc.) but that wouldn't work once he joins a game, because the bot wouldn't follow him into a game.

a keylogger would work, to tell you what he's saying, but the easiest way to find out what people say to him is to get one of those keyloggers that takes screenshots every number of seconds (like, every 10 seconds, for 2 minutes after the last key's pressed).  there's tons of those...   do some research on BOTS.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Corhellion on September 15, 2004, 03:05:39 pm
*sigh*

Kasp, I'm 'One of the WS crowd'...we're generally a very well natured people...but...we do have outbursts......ah heck...it'd be easier if people DON'T talk

...I'll swing an idea past LF (Thorn) and Icy, and we'll see if we can create a...'safe zone'...

Sound alright by you?
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Stealth on September 15, 2004, 03:19:27 pm
:confused:
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Corhellion on September 15, 2004, 03:21:24 pm
...as in tone down our language a few notches...as in not swearing in front of little kids...

...got it now?
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Stealth on September 15, 2004, 04:07:08 pm
well why don't you just say that, instead of
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Kasp, I'm 'One of the WS crowd'...we're generally a very well natured people...but...we do have outbursts......ah heck...it'd be easier if people DON'T talk

...I'll swing an idea past LF (Thorn) and Icy, and we'll see if we can create a...'safe zone'...

Sound alright by you?


;)

but anyway... who's using bad language in front of the kids? :confused:
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Thorn on September 15, 2004, 09:45:35 pm
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Originally posted by Corhellion
*sigh*

Kasp, I'm 'One of the WS crowd'...we're generally a very well natured people...but...we do have outbursts......ah heck...it'd be easier if people DON'T talk

...I'll swing an idea past LF (Thorn) and Icy, and we'll see if we can create a...'safe zone'...

Sound alright by you?

Me? Stop swearing? That would be out of character.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kode on September 16, 2004, 02:35:33 am
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Originally posted by Thorn

Me? Stop swearing? That would be out of character.


you have character? :D

I always thought GD was supposed to be rated PG anyways.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Corhellion on September 16, 2004, 05:04:05 am
*Sigh* I knew it couldn't work...oh well...

...speaking of Starcraft...You up for a game on the weekend Thorn :)
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: HeX on September 16, 2004, 05:08:36 am
I'd help but I lack two key components. One being Starcraft and the other being tact.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kode on September 16, 2004, 05:13:05 am
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Originally posted by Corhellion
*Sigh* I knew it couldn't work...oh well...

...speaking of Starcraft...You up for a game on the weekend Thorn :)


depending on time of day, I'm in. if you want me, that is. you're about 6-9 hours after me.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: aldo_14 on September 16, 2004, 06:00:55 am
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Originally posted by Thorn

Me? Stop swearing? That would be out of character.


**** sake, aren't there ****ing any ****ing swear filters for stopping people who are ****ing ****ers?



















:D
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Thorn on September 16, 2004, 09:15:50 am
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Originally posted by Corhellion
*Sigh* I knew it couldn't work...oh well...

...speaking of Starcraft...You up for a game on the weekend Thorn :)

Probably.
And aldo? **** you :)
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 16, 2004, 09:52:20 am
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Originally posted by HeX
I'd help but I lack two key components. One being Starcraft and the other being tact.
Tact is more of an optional in this case.

I say we burn Kasperl's house to the ground by strapping a large chunk of black-powder to his gas line.

That should stop his brother using SC to have cyber-sex with computer literate horses.

And the pixies! The horrible, terrible pixies! ARGH! They're biting my face! HELP! HELP!
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Janos on September 16, 2004, 09:56:28 am
i want to play with kasperl's brother while he calls me his own little infected kerrigan, his lurker, his overlord
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 16, 2004, 09:58:05 am
...............................Paedophile.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 16, 2004, 10:01:05 am
Stealth: trust me, if I wasnted to spy on him I'd be keylogging that box and hacking his accounts and stuff. This is just basic concern.

As for taking screenies, I think we can do that once he get's a new comp, since this one is a P266, and the lag would be fecking huge.

As for the WS crowd, that was just an example, because, well, I've read some of the "outbursts".

And getting a swear filter on WS sounds bad. But passowrding the rift might be an idea.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 16, 2004, 10:04:40 am
Oh, this is going to be fun.......
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Thorn on September 16, 2004, 10:57:20 am
I think I can safely say that we are not going to password the Rift.
Ever notice how most forums ask if you're over 13? Yeah, they do that for a reason. If your brother isn't 13, he isn't posting at WS.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: an0n on September 16, 2004, 11:04:18 am
COPPA got raped. They over-turned it a while back methinks.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kasperl on September 16, 2004, 11:23:05 am
I know he won't be on WS, but I just thought it might be a nice safety feature for other kids. Just a random idea, 'nyway.

Nice title, an0n.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Icy on September 16, 2004, 02:12:03 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
That wouldn't be too grand an idea, no.

If I think of the chance that the WS crowd is playing SC with him, I just shudder.
 

:drevil:

I will be gentle with him. ;7
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Icy on September 16, 2004, 02:18:08 pm
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Originally posted by Corhellion
...as in tone down our language a few notches...as in not swearing in front of little kids...

...got it now?


Where?!? Do they need drugs and beer?



:nervous:
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Gloriano on September 16, 2004, 02:26:27 pm
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Originally posted by Icy

:drevil:

I will be gentle with him. ;7



btw what server WS people use/used I don't rememper anymore:sigh: because I said once I would join too, and next weekend I have time




btw I'am that bad grammar guy from WS :nervous:
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Thorn on September 16, 2004, 02:28:48 pm
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Originally posted by Icy


Where?!? Do they need drugs and beer?



:nervous:


I do.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Icy on September 16, 2004, 02:33:57 pm
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano



btw what server WS people use/used I don't rememper anymore:sigh: because I said once I would join too, and next weekend I have time




btw I'am that bad grammar guy from WS :nervous:


which one? ;)

We usually use warpstorm/warpstorm

I haven't had time to play that much since school started.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Icy on September 16, 2004, 02:34:33 pm
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Originally posted by Thorn


I do.



That makes two of us. :doubt:
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Gloriano on September 16, 2004, 02:39:26 pm
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Originally posted by Icy


which one? ;)
 



D one;)
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Icy on September 16, 2004, 02:41:28 pm
:o
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: kode on September 16, 2004, 02:55:32 pm
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Originally posted by Icy



That makes two of us. :doubt:


nevermind the drugs, a beer wouldn't fit ill with me.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: vyper on September 16, 2004, 03:24:15 pm
Indeed.
Title: logging StarCraft chats
Post by: Icy on September 17, 2004, 01:54:28 am
I could use a beer atm.