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Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: aldo_14 on September 17, 2004, 07:42:55 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3664864.stm

Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev has said he organised the Russian school siege in which at least 320 hostages died, many of them children.

In a letter to a rebel website, he said a suicide battalion had carried out the attack at the school in Beslan.

The letter, which also claimed attacks on two airliners and a Moscow metro station, could not be verified at once.


EDIT; Title is maybe a bit misleading.
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Turnsky on September 17, 2004, 08:04:27 am
just some choice words to describe this particular warlord..

a complete and utter mother****ing, monsterous, stupid son of a ****ing *****...

seriously.. i wouldn't find it that hard to compare this ****tard to any other monster that we've read about in the history books.

the way it all turned out is moot, what kinda 'tard takes /children/ hostage?
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Martinus on September 17, 2004, 09:26:26 am
[color=66ff00]I'm pretty sure he just uses the fact that the russians have killed way more chechen kids than his forces did to sleep better at night.

He became the enemy which is possibly worse than losing to the enemy.
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Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Night Hammer on September 17, 2004, 09:33:05 am
I know this is serious n all, but title looks vey much like Chicken warlord
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Turnsky on September 17, 2004, 10:18:00 am
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Originally posted by Night Hammer
I know this is serious n all, but title looks vey much like Chicken warlord


more like chicken **** warlord.. if you wanna put children in mortal danger like that.
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: aldo_14 on September 17, 2004, 10:26:04 am
(http://www.americanroyalarts.com/library/WB68.jpg)
Chickens don't kill people, WAPPERS DO!
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: 01010 on September 17, 2004, 10:51:19 am
I think that the point may be missed by people unaware of the GLC.
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Fergus on September 17, 2004, 11:04:23 am
Most likely the Chechen leader (amoung many) is simply trying to  claim responsibilty because other extremists in his country think hes out of the game (much like the McCarthy trials).  Again I point out that what happened in Beslan is nothing compared to the destruction of Grozny, which if Putin gets his way (which he invariably does) well be that much flatter.
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Turnsky on September 17, 2004, 11:06:24 am
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Originally posted by 01010
I think that the point may be missed by people unaware of the GLC.


and that is?:rolleyes:

i'd hate to say this, but the Chechen didn't do themselves a favor PR-wise to further their cause, all they did was enrage and sicken a helluva lot of russians..:doubt: (as well as a fair amount of people across the world, i might add)
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Fergus on September 17, 2004, 11:07:04 am
I just read the quote from US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage about it

"Anyone who would use innocents for political aims is not worthy of existence."

Hmm what about the people you used who died in the Twin Towers for your war in Iraq?
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: 01010 on September 17, 2004, 11:17:43 am
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Originally posted by Turnsky


and that is?:rolleyes:
 


Surely not worthy of the dreaded rolleyes?

Anyway, they are a "rap" group consisting of roughly 80 members (15-30 performing at any one time) who are ****ing hillarious and also from Newport in Wales.

Welsh rap, "You knows it"
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Turnsky on September 17, 2004, 09:10:32 pm
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Originally posted by 01010


Surely not worthy of the dreaded rolleyes?

Anyway, they are a "rap" group consisting of roughly 80 members (15-30 performing at any one time) who are ****ing hillarious and also from Newport in Wales.

Welsh rap, "You knows it"


right, okay.. i didn't know that..
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Stunaep on September 18, 2004, 06:24:30 am
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Originally posted by Fergus
Most likely the Chechen leader (amoung many) is simply trying to  claim responsibilty because other extremists in his country think hes out of the game (much like the McCarthy trials).  Again I point out that what happened in Beslan is nothing compared to the destruction of Grozny, which if Putin gets his way (which he invariably does) well be that much flatter.


At this moment I'd like to also remind, that we're talking about the rebel leader, who has been buying weapons from the Russian Army, and who has, on several occasions walked through villages full of russian troops completely unharmed.
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Clave on September 18, 2004, 08:27:07 am
Hmm, there's more to this than meets the eye...

I wonder how many other 'breakaway' states have a serious grievance against Russia?
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Turnsky on September 18, 2004, 08:38:54 am
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Originally posted by Clave
Hmm, there's more to this than meets the eye...

I wonder how many other 'breakaway' states have a serious grievance against Russia?


quite possibly a fair few former soviet states that succeeded from it when it all collapsed.
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Stunaep on September 18, 2004, 09:18:46 am
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Originally posted by Clave
Hmm, there's more to this than meets the eye...

I wonder how many other 'breakaway' states have a serious grievance against Russia?


And it never occured to you that it might be just, that we've had to deal with russian "politics" for sixty years, and we know just a tad better how it works, than a bunch of US politicians, most of whom haven't even set foot on mother Russia.

As for the matter of the Russian Army selling arms to Bassayev, take a look at this article:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,26821.0.html
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Rictor on September 18, 2004, 11:54:58 am
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Originally posted by Clave
Hmm, there's more to this than meets the eye...

I wonder how many other 'breakaway' states have a serious grievance against Russia?


All of them.
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: Flipside on September 18, 2004, 12:20:05 pm
"On the question of Basayev's statement taking credit for the massacre in Beslan, it is proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that this is inhuman," said US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage on a visit to Poland.

"Anyone who would use innocents for political aims is not worthy of existence."

:lol: Y'see, catch a politician on the hop and he might actually let some honesty happen ;)
Title: Chechen warlord claims responsibility for Beslan school siege
Post by: vyper on September 18, 2004, 12:35:17 pm
The guy's a splinter group leader who represents extremist fundamentalist muslims in Chechnya - not the actual average joe who wants independence.