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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Unknown Target on September 17, 2004, 05:18:19 pm

Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Unknown Target on September 17, 2004, 05:18:19 pm
Can we seriously stop it, or at least curtail it a bit? I mean, every single thread I read that has to do with current events, nomatter if it's science, religion, politics, war, peace, good, bad, w/e, it always ends up in people bashing eitehr the US or religion (you know who you are).

I mean, seriously, do threads about fat ladies getting stuck to couches, and new planets being discovered TRULY need to devlove int ways we can tell how much the US sucks, or how religion is the root of all evil?


Please people, keep it sane. There's enough insanity and finger-pointing in the world as-is. Why don't we stick to HLP's pedegree and be unique, and not always fight over meaningless things?
Title: Re: Bashing things...
Post by: Tiara on September 17, 2004, 05:42:36 pm
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Originally posted by Unknown Target

Please people, keep it sane. There's enough insanity and finger-pointing in the world as-is. Why don't we stick to HLP's pedegree and be unique, and not always fight over meaningless things?

I'm sorry, do you think world governments are meaningless? :p

I'm sorry, but i say whatever the hell I want. If people just happen not to like what i'm saying, too bad.

I won't make the threads about these topics (never have, never will), but when someone else makes such a topic I'll state my opinion. Besides, I like arguing :D

Anyway, this place would be very dull if the only topics that we make are about truly meaningless subjects like 'OW! LOOK! A three-legged twin has been born!'. Such threads will result in the following replies;

#1: :eek2:
#2: :wtf:
#3: Hehe, cool!
#4: I R0XX0RZ!
#5: Couldn't care less.
#6: Eh?
etc
etc

That's just boring. Arguments are good and they are fun :D

What i'm trying to say is this:

Don't like the thread? THEN STAY THE F*CK OUT! It's not like anyone forces you into such threads.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Bobboau on September 17, 2004, 05:45:48 pm
you and your anti-bashin bias, I am sick and tired of your authoratarian atitude and I hope you burn in helll!1!!!!
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Blitzerland on September 17, 2004, 05:48:50 pm
You are completly correct.

We should all restrict our bashing. I've done it, you've all done it, isn't it getting freakin' old?

As long as I get to flame someone once a month, i'm fine.

Seriously, though, it is getting old, people.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: MatthewPapa on September 17, 2004, 05:52:06 pm
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Originally posted by Bobboau
you and your anti-bashin bias, I am sick and tired of your authoratarian atitude and I hope you burn in helll!1!!!!

:lol:
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Kosh on September 17, 2004, 05:54:56 pm
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Originally posted by Blitzerland
isn't it getting freakin' old?



No. :lol:


But don't you think it is kind of funny that you are bashing bashing?
Title: Re: Re: Bashing things...
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on September 17, 2004, 05:55:53 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara

I'm sorry, do you think world governments are meaningless? :p

I'm sorry, but i say whatever the hell I want. If people just happen not to like what i'm saying, too bad.

I won't make the threads about these topics (never have, never will), but when someone else makes such a topic I'll state my opinion. Besides, I like arguing :D

Anyway, this place would be very dull if the only topics that we make are about truly meaningless subjects like 'OW! LOOK! A three-legged twin has been born!'. Such threads will result in the following replies;

#1: :eek2:
#2: :wtf:
#3: Hehe, cool!
#4: I R0XX0RZ!
#5: Couldn't care less.
#6: Eh?
etc
etc

That's just boring. Arguments are good and they are fun :D

What i'm trying to say is this:

Don't like the thread? THEN STAY THE F*CK OUT! It's not like anyone forces you into such threads.


Tiara, I don't think hes complaining about the threads meant to poke fun at these particular subjects. Sounds like he tired of reading a thread thats totally unrelated to politics or any of that, and suddenly having some twat post trying to turn the thread towards U.S. or Religion bashing.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Zakalwe on September 17, 2004, 06:07:32 pm
I don't think a little common deceny in talking with our fellow man is too much to ask for. In the end it doesn't matter, as this place is ultimately presided over by those who have powar.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bashing things...
Post by: Unknown Target on September 17, 2004, 06:14:04 pm
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Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.


Tiara, I don't think hes complaining about the threads mean't to poke fun at these particular subjects. Sounds like he tired of reading a thread thats totally unrelated to politics or any of that, and suddenly having some twat post trying to turn the thread towards U.S. or Religion bashing.



Exactly, thank you.

It's all well and good, post your bashings in actual political or religious threads, but I don't want to hear about them in EVERY SINGLE THREAD that relates to the world. I can barely go into any HLP threads without looking out for constant bashing/flaming.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Tiara on September 17, 2004, 06:22:35 pm
Ok, let's see;

- A completely uninteresting topic that lasts about 20-30 posts then dies and is forgotten.

- A completely uninteresting topic turns into an argument/debate/bashing (whatever you like to call it) and lasts about 100 posts and people don't forget about it.

i'd rather have the argument.

Sorry, but almost all and any topic posted here that isn't related to religion or politics, is completely and utterly mindnumbingly dull or becaomes that way after 20 or so posts because all has been said. Unless people start posting interesting topics a little bit more often and give something else to talk about, your cries go in vain.

90% of all topics are links to either news sources (which in turn usually deal with politics and the sorts) or link to some stupid flash game/pictures/etc.

(Ow, and don't come with the lame argument of 'then you post something interesting'. The whole reason I rarely start threads is because there isn't anything interesting to post.)
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Unknown Target on September 17, 2004, 06:28:29 pm
Alright, then post in those 90% of the topics, and leave the other 10% alone and let them die.

Then you'll have, out of 100 threads, 90 that are interesting and are remembered, and 10 that are forgotten and uninteresting.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on September 17, 2004, 06:30:00 pm
Well, since you seem to find bashing things and having debates/arguments on the internet interesting (so do I, in all honesty), why don't you make a thread for that specific purpose, instead of derailing other threads with the same stuff thats been said over and over?
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: aldo_14 on September 17, 2004, 06:41:33 pm
We tend to have a lot of cicular debates - I think it'd be better for all concerned if they were limited to be in threads where they were on topic.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Blitzerland on September 17, 2004, 06:45:00 pm
We should do LESS bashing, but not stop. Bush bashing is old.

Let me rephrase that. We should stop bashing certain things.

The "Jesus vs. Bush" thread sums it all up.

Bashing is kinda fun, though. But it is possible to have discussions without it.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: aldo_14 on September 17, 2004, 06:48:19 pm
It's hard to discuss Bush without bashing him.  In fact, there's a 59% chance that is what will occur within the next 10 posts.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Unknown Target on September 17, 2004, 06:51:50 pm
Yea, well, all I'm asking is htat it's kept in the appropriate threads, not every single one, going over and over again, until a perfectly legit thread is locked.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Tiara on September 17, 2004, 07:01:13 pm
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Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
Well, since you seem to find bashing things and having debates/arguments on the internet interesting (so do I, in all honesty), why don't you make a thread for that specific purpose, instead of derailing other threads with the same stuff thats been said over and over?

I take it you weren't here during the Big Religion Thread-era™? :D:drevil:
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Blitzerland on September 17, 2004, 07:09:47 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
It's hard to discuss Bush without bashing him.  In fact, there's a 59% chance that is what will occur within the next 10 posts.



I don't discuss him anymore. :p
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: ionia23 on September 17, 2004, 07:15:33 pm
Eh, some of us get passionate about varying subjects.  Just watch me and Rictor go at it over US foreign policy sometime. :)

Or make a comment about religion in Kazan's presence.

It happens.  We get out of line.  We get the stomp.  Some of us (me) still have a bootprint on our forehead.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Jetmech Jr. on September 17, 2004, 09:25:55 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara

I take it you weren't here during the Big Religion Thread-era™? :D:drevil:


I was...here, but not here (i.e. Lurking :D).
Title: Re: Re: Bashing things...
Post by: Carl on September 17, 2004, 09:36:07 pm
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Originally posted by Tiara
#1: :eek2:
#2: :wtf:
#3: Hehe, cool!
#4: I R0XX0RZ!
#5: Couldn't care less.
#6: Eh?
etc
etc


And is that a whole lot worse than:

One of the weapons inspectors said there are no WMDs in Iraq.

#1 The USA is Evil for pretending there were
#2 No, it was an Intelligence Error
#3 Bush si teh Evil!!!!1111
#4 USA IS THE GREAT SATAN!!!!!!!!!11111111112224
#5 *700 word post about someone's opinion that nobody reads*
#6 *name calling*
ect.
ect.

hrrrm?
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Rictor on September 17, 2004, 10:47:56 pm
Well, for good measure, I also try to bash Putin quite a bit, though it doesn't come up as often as the US.

Erm, yeah, general dicussion is getting a bit politics heavy, but its not like there are actually all that many political threads, its just that, as has been mentioned, almost every topic devolves into how so-and-so sucks.

So, er, yeah. I dunno, try to cut it down a bit guys. This is still one of the only boards I've been to where poltical discussion is not expressely prohibited, which is great.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Setekh on September 17, 2004, 11:03:17 pm
Thanks, UT. Your words are greatly appreciated.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Ford Prefect on September 17, 2004, 11:20:42 pm
Yeah, what's with all this controversial crap anyway? We should talk more about breasts.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: redsniper on September 17, 2004, 11:58:18 pm
^^ I second the motion!
Title: Re: Bashing things...
Post by: karajorma on September 18, 2004, 04:29:20 am
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Can we seriously stop it, or at least curtail it a bit? I mean, every single thread I read that has to do with current events, nomatter if it's science, religion, politics, war, peace, good, bad, w/e, it always ends up in people bashing eitehr the US or religion (you know who you are).


Actually UT I'd say that you start a fair number of the off topics yourself. Someone makes a comment about Bush and you say that they're bashing the US and then the topic goes downhill when everyone corrects you about the difference. If you'd simply kept it shut the comment would have been over looked.

So instead of lecturing us to stay on-topic I suggest you start with yourself first.

1) Learn the difference between bashing Bush and bashing America. They are absolutely not the same thing. In fact don't ever use the term again unless the person is question is saying something like "Americans are stupid"

2) Keep it shut when someone makes a comment unless the whole thread is going off topic. Lots of threads have off-topc comments. Pushing them to prominence makes them more likely to derail the thread not less.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Clave on September 18, 2004, 04:54:04 am
Conflict = Life

If everyone had the same opinion, and nobody created controversy, wouldn't it be dull?

But, bashing for it's own sake is also dull.

For me, forums are a place to unwind, relax, and sometimes just be a mindless spammer/arguer.  It's not a place where I would apply my intellect, because I'm sure you are all far better educated than me, but somewhere 'other' than real life, which is more routine than I care for.  

So, what I am trying to say really, is that ultimately, it is not important - when I quit Mozilla, you all cease to exist for me, and fade away like the bickering of ghosts.  Call me a tard if you like, but you don't me, and you never will...
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Turnsky on September 18, 2004, 05:04:38 am
so, you're bashing bashing? :p

seriously, tho.. i agree, people have been flaring up a little too much lately.. a debate is one thing, so is a minor arguement, but when things go up into a minor flamewar.. that's a completely different story. :nod:
Title: Re: Bashing things...
Post by: Stunaep on September 18, 2004, 06:34:17 am
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Can we seriously stop it, or at least curtail it a bit? I mean, every single thread I read that has to do with current events, nomatter if it's science, religion, politics, war, peace, good, bad, w/e, it always ends up in people bashing eitehr the US or religion (you know who you are).

I mean, seriously, do threads about fat ladies getting stuck to couches, and new planets being discovered TRULY need to devlove int ways we can tell how much the US sucks, or how religion is the root of all evil?


Please people, keep it sane. There's enough insanity and finger-pointing in the world as-is. Why don't we stick to HLP's pedegree and be unique, and not always fight over meaningless things?

 
Commie.

:p
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bashing things...
Post by: Tiara on September 18, 2004, 06:53:08 am
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Originally posted by Carl


And is that a whole lot worse than:

One of the weapons inspectors said there are no WMDs in Iraq.

#1 The USA is Evil for pretending there were
#2 No, it was an Intelligence Error
#3 Bush si teh Evil!!!!1111
#4 USA IS THE GREAT SATAN!!!!!!!!!11111111112224
#5 *700 word post about someone's opinion that nobody reads*
#6 *name calling*
ect.
ect.

hrrrm?

I dare you to find a thread with these posts. Every time there are extensive posts where people make their point.

I'm sorry, but if you people don't like you should just stay the f*ck away from the threads.

Though I do kinda agree that bashing in a completely unrelated topic is not commendable :p
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: aldo_14 on September 18, 2004, 07:29:40 am
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Originally posted by Turnsky
so, you're bashing bashing? :p

seriously, tho.. i agree, people have been flaring up a little too much lately.. a debate is one thing, so is a minor arguement, but when things go up into a minor flamewar.. that's a completely different story. :nod:


So, are you bashing bashing bashing, then?  And would that mean that i am now bashing bashing bashing bashing?

Ooh....my head hurts
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Tiara on September 18, 2004, 07:33:44 am
Bashing bashing bashing bashing MUSHROOOOOM!

:p
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: vyper on September 18, 2004, 07:55:21 am
Grow up kids, if you can't stand the heat get out of the... kitchen.

I seem to be stuck using cliches today.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Turnsky on September 18, 2004, 08:02:48 am
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Originally posted by vyper
Grow up kids, if you can't stand the heat get out of the... kitchen.

I seem to be stuck using cliches today.


oh, we can stand the heat, but somma us prefer to cool things down with humor :p :)
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Clave on September 18, 2004, 08:22:09 am
:yes: It is the driving force behind the internet, or is that pr0n? ummm, anyway, you have to have a laugh it's good for the soul...:nod:
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: vyper on September 18, 2004, 12:31:17 pm
Pornography is what keeps everyone sane after the fights. It's the alcoholism of the internet world.
Title: Bashing things...
Post by: Flipside on September 18, 2004, 12:36:00 pm
Heh, I'd rather see some real life bashing than live in some kind of Digital Smurf Village ;)