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Title: What a sad thing
Post by: freespacegundam on September 17, 2004, 10:57:39 pm

My FS2 cds, bought only this year, and providing me with many a fun battle against the Shivans, have suffered loss.  CD3 is now cracked right down the middle, and is unreadable.  No more Bastion dies, no more supernova, :(

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: MatthewPapa on September 17, 2004, 11:04:49 pm

there is a thread somewhere around here (do a search) with a link where you can download the fs2 cd ISO files. Just burn the cd images to a CD-R>

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: freespacegundam on September 17, 2004, 11:25:41 pm

tried that, alas, the link seems to be broken, not to mention the fact that at less than 56k, it will take me about 110 hours to download....

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: mrfun on September 17, 2004, 11:28:53 pm

If it's installed on your hardrive then the SCP will still run, you just won't get anymore cutscenes.  There's an old-build SCP release stickied in the new release forums if you don't want or cant run the newfancygraphicsstuff(tm).

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Kosh on September 17, 2004, 11:38:17 pm

I will be hosting as many of the avi versions of FS cutscenes on my website as possible when I go back to my university (which will be in just 2 days).


"Hang in there Alpha, help is on the way"

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Swamp_Thing on September 17, 2004, 11:58:54 pm

If you get a p2p program called eMule, you can get all 3 CDs off the net, in about 24 hours. Message me for more details.

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Silent Warrior on September 18, 2004, 05:11:06 am

Um... You DO realize you're asking him to download about 2 Gb with a 56k modem, right? 2'000'000/7 is... more than a quarter-million seconds. Something like 80 hours, at best. Still, spending about a week downloading FS2 beats tromping around in fertilizer...

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Setekh on September 18, 2004, 05:18:32 am

Find a friend with the CD and copy it. It's totally legal, check the EULA agreement. :)

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: redsniper on September 18, 2004, 07:20:01 pm

but it's only legal if they're your friend :p

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Hippo on September 18, 2004, 07:29:02 pm

Or just run the SCP...

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Swamp_Thing on September 18, 2004, 07:48:02 pm

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Originally posted by Silent Warrior
Um... You DO realize you're asking him to download about 2 Gb with a 56k modem, right? 2'000'000/7 is... more than a quarter-million seconds. Something like 80 hours, at best. Still, spending about a week downloading FS2 beats tromping around in fertilizer...

The average speed at wich i download anything in EMule is about 20kbs, and it took me about a day to get all 3 CDs. If he uses his entire bandwith available to just that task, it wouldn´t take him much longer.
I used to have a 56k modem too, so i´m pretty aware of its capabilities.

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Hippo on September 19, 2004, 07:30:40 am

:wtf: then that was no 56k modem... Nearly ALL isps now limit a 56k connection to 3.5kbs. THe only way to mgo above that, it with a download manager that starts several downloads, but they aren't too reliable, because some servers will ban your ip if you connect too many times. Even fiddling with MTU's, the best  can _EVER_ get is 7kbs ...

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Swamp_Thing on September 19, 2004, 03:27:31 pm

Note that i said "i usually download", meaning present tense. I used to have a 56k, and that is past tense.
I now have cable, but i used p2p when i had both kinds of connections.
Also, eMule works just as a Download manager, you can download from several sources, and start several downloads at once. The final speed is the average of all the sources added together. And allthough sometimes i get peeks of up to 40kbs of data, it usually stays well below 15kbs, quite far of my connection´s capabilities. If you use a 56k at full speed, with no choke points and no net browsing, you can get pretty close to 15kbs or more. Trust me on this, i´ve been using eMule ever since they first made it, even before when there was only eDonkey.
The only reason for it to take any longer is the absence of uploading sources, wich i can vouch for their presence. There are about 1000 full sources around, at the moment. I know because i got the 3 CDs again, just last week.
There is no other source that could give anyone with a 56k a speed increase over eMule, not even FTP.
Of course, you can always buy the damn thing off eBay, if you find it...

:p

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: ionia23 on September 20, 2004, 12:30:41 pm

There is an alternative: Go get the Freespace 2: Interplay 20th Anniversary Edition.  I think they still have copies

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: aldo_14 on September 20, 2004, 12:57:24 pm

I think the Interplay webstore is down, actually.

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Mongoose on September 20, 2004, 02:10:52 pm

Yeah, Interplay's webstore went down at the same time as their site.

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: MatthewPapa on September 20, 2004, 04:53:21 pm

I got mine from emule too. That thing is great.

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: freespacegundam on September 20, 2004, 07:36:42 pm

Alright, tell me if this is crazy, but I had a thought going.  What if I simply go into the campaign file, rip out the parts where it needs to play the movies from cd 3, and extract the necessary VP files. I would have no movies beyond disc two, but at least the missions might be playable.  Will this work?

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: karajorma on September 22, 2004, 12:20:19 pm

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Originally posted by freespacegundam
Alright, tell me if this is crazy, but I had a thought going.  What if I simply go into the campaign file, rip out the parts where it needs to play the movies from cd 3, and extract the necessary VP files. I would have no movies beyond disc two, but at least the missions might be playable.  Will this work?

That should work. You might be able to get away with simply editing all references to CD3 in the cutscene table to somewhere else if it doesn't.

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Kosh on September 22, 2004, 05:20:22 pm

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Nearly ALL isps now limit a 56k connection to 3.5kbs

At home I only get that if I am also surfing the net. Even then it is usually at 4 kbs. If I'm not doing that it is close to 5 kbs.

Title: What a sad thing
Post by: Hippo on September 22, 2004, 06:30:07 pm

you shouldn't even need CD 3... just hit CANCEL when the movie popup appears... :rolleyes: or again:

use the SCP