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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: karajorma on September 22, 2004, 12:49:39 pm

Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: karajorma on September 22, 2004, 12:49:39 pm
Okay. If I didn't know better I'd swear they were making this **** up.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3678694.stm

Seriously. Was their any need to divert the flight? Did they really think he was going to hijack it? What did they think he was going to do? Sing Moonshadow at them? :lol:
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: ionia23 on September 22, 2004, 01:02:44 pm
Naw, "Cat's In The Cradle" has been declared a weapon of mass destruction.  Which is utterly retarded since the real weapon is Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On"
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: vyper on September 22, 2004, 01:04:27 pm
Phear teh lyrics....
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: aldo_14 on September 22, 2004, 01:07:31 pm
More importantly, if he really was a terrorist, wouldn't it be better not to let him on the plane in the first place?
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Flipside on September 22, 2004, 01:08:47 pm
Well, it's nothing to do with him being Cat Stevens, and more to do with his real name, which include the word 'Islam' and therefore is automatically assumed by the FBI to be a Terrorist ;)
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Blue Lion on September 22, 2004, 02:24:24 pm
Technically he was linked to terrorist funding, which I guess is reason enough to keep him out. But divert the plane? :doubt:
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Stealth on September 22, 2004, 02:46:52 pm
yes.  divert it to keep him away from major american cities.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Sandwich on September 22, 2004, 02:51:21 pm
Cats in the Cradle is one of my more favorite songs. Dang.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Stealth on September 22, 2004, 03:02:47 pm
that is a very badass song.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Flipside on September 22, 2004, 03:18:20 pm
Yeah, and you have to be careful who gets on flights, you never know who might be backing the bad guys ;)

http://news.airwise.com/stories/2004/08/1092947427.html
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Rictor on September 22, 2004, 03:27:22 pm
Well, you gotta keep the riffraff out somehow.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: karajorma on September 22, 2004, 04:40:14 pm
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Originally posted by Stealth
yes.  divert it to keep him away from major american cities.


Cause he might stage a concert?

Even if he is raising money for terrorists I somehow doubt that Cat Stevens is a big enough threat to the US that there was any need to do that. Just arrest and deport him when the plane gets to Washington.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Kosh on September 22, 2004, 04:48:49 pm
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Originally posted by Blue Lion
Technically he was linked to terrorist funding, which I guess is reason enough to keep him out. But divert the plane? :doubt:




How so? Did he contribute to the democratic party? :D
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Flipside on September 22, 2004, 04:49:10 pm
Mustn't....post....alternate....lyrics......

:nervous:
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Blitzerland on September 22, 2004, 05:11:40 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
Mustn't....post....alternate....lyrics......

:nervous:



Be strong...
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: ionia23 on September 22, 2004, 05:39:00 pm
....and Cat's been sent down to Gitmo Bay
Little boy Bush wants to put him away
He's gonna get deported but we don't know when
he ain't comin' back again, no, he ain't-a coming back again......
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Flipside on September 22, 2004, 05:41:29 pm
LOL

Or of course, the Syrian export, which is believed to contain subliminal messages to terrorist groups :-

When the Planes over Apple
Get a silver spoon
sharpened up to be a
weapon of doom
Theres 12 girls waiting for you
in heaven
You know you'll have a good time then ;)
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Clave on September 22, 2004, 05:48:00 pm
...please, no more.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Flipside on September 22, 2004, 05:49:18 pm
He started it :p
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: ionia23 on September 22, 2004, 05:53:18 pm
I did nothing of the sort.  :)
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Stealth on September 22, 2004, 09:06:19 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma


Cause he might stage a concert?

Even if he is raising money for terrorists I somehow doubt that Cat Stevens is a big enough threat to the US that there was any need to do that. Just arrest and deport him when the plane gets to Washington.


hey, don't ask me man...  you just said you wondered why they didn't let him get to washington, and i just said the most reasonable thing that came to my mind:  because it's a big city :p
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: karajorma on September 23, 2004, 03:53:51 am
I know why they choose to land in Bangor rather than Washington as you say but it's only sensible if they believed that Cat Stevens was going to hijack the plane.

Quite frankly that's absolute nonsense isn't it?
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Post by: NGTM-1R on September 23, 2004, 04:01:53 am
Does anybody have details of how he got on the watch list? I mean, real details, not a misc. "he was fundraising" thingie.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: aldo_14 on September 23, 2004, 05:18:01 am
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
Does anybody have details of how he got on the watch list? I mean, real details, not a misc. "he was fundraising" thingie.


He changed his name to 'Islam'

:p

Cat Stevens 'shock' at US refusal (22/9/03) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3682434.stm)
Israel bans former pop star(13/7/00) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/832796.stm)

EDIT; IIRC Bangor is an Air Force Base.  I certainly remember rows of b-52s sitting by the runway from refuelling stops there when going to Florida.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Clave on September 23, 2004, 07:52:13 am
And of course Pennywise is there to deal with troublemakers....

(http://www.stephenking.s5.net/images/wallpapers/IT%20Pennywise%20800x600.jpg)
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Vaelinx on September 23, 2004, 09:09:17 am
I tell you, they Department of Homeland Security needs to get it's act together.  It's not like anyone will ever be able to take another American plane.  At least not in the near future.  Any passenger of able body would fight, because we've learned that overcoming the hijackers is the way to survive.  Back in the '80's when it was people interested in money or political recognition/assylum hijacking planes, they weren't interested in hurting the passengers really.  But now we know we can't trust our captors anymore... :(  Goodbye Stockholm Syndrome...

But anyway, they really need to fix their methods for airline security...  They've been found to be grossly ineffective.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Flipside on September 23, 2004, 09:14:31 am
Apparently the reason Cat Stevens gave up his career as a singer was because radical Muslims convinced him that it was against the Quoran to do so.....30 years ago. He also allegedly gave money to Hamas.

Cat Stevens + 'Radical' Muslims (even 30 years ago) = FBI Wet Dream.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: karajorma on September 23, 2004, 11:47:45 am
That would be a bit odd since he has repeatedly denounced terrorism.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: ionia23 on September 23, 2004, 11:54:15 am
Unfortunately, in the 1980's, he went on public record that he supported the death warrant issued against Salman Rushdie for "The Satanic Verses".  Not a good way to win friends and influence people, but certainly no reason to put him on a watch list.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: 01010 on September 23, 2004, 12:02:19 pm
Maybe that'll teach Salman Rushdie to write a book worth reading.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Grey Wolf on September 26, 2004, 08:56:59 pm
And the funniest things about this thread: "Cat's in the Cradle" was written and sung by Harry Chapin, not Cat Stevens.
Title: Baby, It really is a wild world
Post by: Flipside on September 26, 2004, 09:36:34 pm
I know, but it was better than my alternate Lyrics for 'Morning has Broken' trust me ;)