Post by: Stunaep on September 22, 2004, 01:02:45 pm
Bye-bye monopoly.
http://news.com.com/Firefox+beats+million-download+deadline/2100-1032_3-5371875.html
Post by: aldo_14 on September 22, 2004, 01:08:44 pm
Sadly, still only a miniscule percentage of the market.
Post by: Blue Lion on September 22, 2004, 02:27:34 pm
Post by: Sandwich on September 22, 2004, 03:02:05 pm
Post by: JR2000Z on September 22, 2004, 04:19:19 pm
Post by: Clave on September 22, 2004, 04:23:39 pm
Post by: Sandwich on September 22, 2004, 04:27:07 pm
Post by: varus on September 22, 2004, 04:56:43 pm
Post by: Blitzerland on September 22, 2004, 05:23:57 pm
The only open source thing I use is....
FREESPACE 2 SOURCE CODE PROJECT!!!111!1111oneone
Post by: Clave on September 22, 2004, 05:50:34 pm
Post by: Blitzerland on September 22, 2004, 05:56:45 pm
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Originally posted by Clave
IE, is a timebomb....
Naah. I've got four different virus scanners, with multiple copies on each of my drives. All of them auto-scan my CPU when booting up. They auto-update at 10:00 PM.
I'm freakin' invincible! :lol:
Post by: IceFire on September 22, 2004, 05:57:19 pm
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Originally posted by Clave
IE, is a timebomb....
...and its already exploded. Its just a really slow explosion.
Post by: Kamikaze on September 22, 2004, 05:57:44 pm
In my case, I have a small list of the "only" closed source applications I run on this box. :D
Post by: Blitzerland on September 22, 2004, 06:00:32 pm
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
It's kinda funny, Blitz is mentioning the only open source program he uses.
In my case, I have a small list of the "only" closed source applications I run on this box. :D
Eh? What are saying? Am I using other open source programs without knowing it? Your post is a little confusing, Kamikaze.
Post by: Kamikaze on September 22, 2004, 06:24:16 pm
Post by: Fury on September 22, 2004, 11:19:04 pm
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Originally posted by Blitzerland
Naah. I've got four different virus scanners, with multiple copies on each of my drives. All of them auto-scan my CPU when booting up. They auto-update at 10:00 PM.
I'm freakin' invincible! :lol:
:wtf:
Are you aware that using more than one anti-virus or firewall software will lead to problems. These softwares are using low level drivers for example, which may conflict and cause god knows what problems. If a virus is found, it may very well be that none your virus scanners can actually do anything about it.
Best description for it would be that you have ten very hungry dogs and then you throw a piece of food in middle of them. They start fighting over that piece of food.
So using more than one anti-virus software will actually weaken your protection.
Post by: Sandwich on September 23, 2004, 02:57:23 pm
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Originally posted by Blitzerland
Naah. I've got four different virus scanners, with multiple copies on each of my drives. All of them auto-scan my CPU when booting up. They auto-update at 10:00 PM.
I'm freakin' invincible! :lol:
And I bet you're no more protected than someone with a bit of common sense who runs FireFox / Thunderbird with no virus protection is.
Besides, boasting that IE is great is like saying that Windows 95 is great. Yeah, it may work for you in your situation. But that certainly doesn't make it "great".
EDIT: Err... just to clarify - I'm not saying that you lack common sense. I'm just saying that using a bit of common sense while browsing with Firefox and emailing w/ Thunderbird can afford one a very good level of security.
Post by: Stealth on September 23, 2004, 03:01:56 pm
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
I can count the closed source programs I use on this computer on one hand. :p
please do, i'm interested :nod:
Post by: Blitzerland on September 23, 2004, 05:13:46 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich
EDIT: Err... just to clarify - I'm not saying that you lack common sense. I'm just saying that using a bit of common sense while browsing with Firefox and emailing w/ Thunderbird can afford one a very good level of security.
I use the virus scanners to protect me from downloaded files. I tried using Firefox...but...uh...I had some FREAKY problems.
Besides, my CPU IS invincible. Just you try and hack me!*
*Actually, please don't.
Post by: Kamikaze on September 23, 2004, 05:54:18 pm
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Originally posted by Stealth
please do, i'm interested :nod:
1. ATI Graphics Drivers (Don't need them, but they do better 3d accel. than the X11 drivers)
2. Blackdown JDK/JRE
3. Homeworld (Installed with winex)
4. Space Empire IV (Installed with winex)
5. Winex
Post by: Corsair on September 23, 2004, 07:57:51 pm
Post by: Hippo on September 23, 2004, 08:29:10 pm
Post by: Stealth on September 23, 2004, 10:38:20 pm
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
1. ATI Graphics Drivers (Don't need them, but they do better 3d accel. than the X11 drivers)
2. Blackdown JDK/JRE
3. Homeworld (Installed with winex)
4. Space Empire IV (Installed with winex)
5. Winex
hehehehe
that's all? ;)
Post by: Kamikaze on September 23, 2004, 11:46:42 pm
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Originally posted by Corsair
Eh... how about like a wordpad type thing, Kami? Have one of those open source?
Well, I'm a commandline guy so I stick with the classic vim editor for simple text work.
I have abiword installed for a word processor, it's pretty good. :nod:
Post by: Sesquipedalian on September 24, 2004, 01:25:34 am
Post by: Stealth on September 24, 2004, 09:24:14 am
Post by: karajorma on September 24, 2004, 11:25:40 am
Post by: Sandwich on September 26, 2004, 01:43:24 am
Post by: Hippo on September 26, 2004, 06:59:31 am
Post by: Zeronet on September 26, 2004, 07:11:38 am
Post by: Stunaep on September 26, 2004, 07:11:45 am
Post by: Hippo on September 26, 2004, 07:16:38 am
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Originally posted by Stunaep
And moreso, how can I get one?
Ditto...
It is more effective than IE for a lot of reasons... One such reason, is that while it uses your cache to load frewuently visited pages, it ALSO checks to make sure you have the newest page... IE and AOL stopped opening Gmail, because the screen that said Loading would be cached, and it wouldn't know to redirect... Therefore, FF>everything :p :nod:
Post by: Singh on September 26, 2004, 07:26:45 am
*decides to try it out, just for the heck of it :D
Post by: kode on September 26, 2004, 07:27:32 am
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Originally posted by Hippo
Erm... whats with the spread FireFox things now?
that's what I've been meaning to ask. it's freaking annoying. opera über alles!
Post by: BlackDove on September 26, 2004, 07:58:10 am
Post by: kode on September 26, 2004, 07:59:52 am
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Originally posted by BD
Opera is junky :nod:
elaborate your statement, please. I'm eager to get to know wtf you mean.
Post by: Hippo on September 26, 2004, 07:59:54 am
FF>X
Post by: aldo_14 on September 26, 2004, 08:48:12 am
Tried IE, couldn't trust it
Tried Firefox, loved it
Post by: Rictor on September 26, 2004, 09:04:24 am
Post by: IceFire on September 26, 2004, 09:21:11 am
I've been using it for the summer now and I'm extremely impressed. Its faster than IE, more secure than IE, has better features, is very small to download and run, doesn't have alot of extra un-needed features, in-general its very good. Haven't run into too many problems with switching either.
I'm also using Thunderbird for my mail client. Also very impressive!
Post by: kode on September 26, 2004, 09:39:36 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Tried opera, didn't like it
Tried IE, couldn't trust it
Tried Firefox, loved it
3 interesting points, but not at all convincing. give me real arguments.
GAHH!! didn't liek it! waah!!
oh! i lub it becuz I lub it!!! teh win!!!1
Post by: aldo_14 on September 26, 2004, 09:46:56 am
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Originally posted by kode
3 interesting points, but not at all convincing. give me real arguments.
GAHH!! didn't liek it! waah!!
oh! i lub it becuz I lub it!!! teh win!!!1
why? Surely you can make up your own opinions?
Post by: Corsair on September 26, 2004, 09:47:47 am
Post by: kode on September 26, 2004, 10:00:50 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
why? Surely you can make up your own opinions?
yeah, but you all seem so eager to convert everyone to firefux users, so all I'm asking for is reasonable arguments that could make me try it out. as it is now, all you can say is "I leik it! 0pera and EI suxxxor!"
Post by: Taristin on September 26, 2004, 10:04:14 am
It runs faster.
There's tabbed browsing. (Which can be disabled.)
There's excellent support.
It's not made by Microsoft.
It's skinnable.
It supports most plugins. (So far.)
Etcetera.
WE don't need to convince you. If you like what you're using keep what you're using. If you dislike it, however, give it a try, and se for yourself.
Post by: aldo_14 on September 26, 2004, 10:13:35 am
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Originally posted by kode
yeah, but you all seem so eager to convert everyone to firefux users, so all I'm asking for is reasonable arguments that could make me try it out. as it is now, all you can say is "I leik it! 0pera and EI suxxxor!"
It's the most comfortable interface I've ever used, it's far more secure than IE (I can't account for it Vs other browsers), it's reliable, it has a load of nice integrated things, such as pop-up blockers and the DL manager, and I wouldn't swap it for any other browser I've tried.
The reason I didn't like Opera was that when I used it, IIRC it had integrated adverts unless you paid. There was another browser I tried, which had a unique yet horribly uncomfortable interface, whose name I forget.
all I can say, is that I tried Opera, Firefox and a number of other freeware browsers at the same time (as IE had become completely non-functional, crashing whenever a new window popped up) - and I picked Firefox as being by far the best, based upon simply how I felt using it.
Post by: Stunaep on September 26, 2004, 10:43:34 am
Post by: Rictor on September 26, 2004, 10:45:55 am
Post by: Taristin on September 26, 2004, 10:50:28 am
I want this one:
:p
Post by: Blitzerland on September 26, 2004, 11:25:58 am
Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on September 26, 2004, 11:28:05 am
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Originally posted by IceFire
I've been using it for the summer now and I'm extremely impressed. Its faster than IE, more secure than IE, has better features, is very small to download and run, doesn't have alot of extra un-needed features, in-general its very good. Haven't run into too many problems with switching either.
:yes:
I've been using Firefox for three days now, and I'm definately impressed. Bye bye, IE6. I won't see you for a while.
Post by: Flaser on September 26, 2004, 12:27:57 pm
Post by: vyper on September 26, 2004, 01:59:04 pm
Post by: Sandwich on September 26, 2004, 04:07:06 pm
Post by: Taristin on September 26, 2004, 04:15:16 pm
Post by: Sandwich on September 26, 2004, 04:21:31 pm
Post by: Liberator on September 26, 2004, 04:38:30 pm
That's been my only gripe with FF has been the DL manager. I want to be able to integrate Flashget or DAP without having to get a plugin.
Post by: Windrunner on September 26, 2004, 04:51:15 pm
Post by: Taristin on September 26, 2004, 05:01:40 pm
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Originally posted by Liberator
Have they improved the integration of DL managers?
That's been my only gripe with FF has been the DL manager. I want to be able to integrate Flashget or DAP without having to get a plugin.
I don't see why you'd need to. You can pause FF downloads and resume them later as well.
Post by: Flaser on September 26, 2004, 05:49:47 pm
I hadn't gotten down to trying all the downloading FF features especailly since I'm on dialup now, but I'm not 100% positive, that it feature all of that.
(... and some of us, have tons of stuff boomarked in Flashget for downloading 'till eternity. :b - being an anime fan has strange sideeffecs)
Post by: Hippo on September 26, 2004, 06:00:03 pm
:nervous:
Post by: Cyker on September 26, 2004, 06:08:37 pm
I still use Opera 6 because it's so much faster and less of a resource hog than Opera 7. My only regret is that Opera 6 has trouble rendering a lot of mainstream websites properly :(
Firefox is okay, but I think it's vasty overrated and over-hyped. It's not that much faster than IE and is just as much of a resource hog, if not more so.
IMHO, Konqueror was way better as a standalone browser - It has none of the rendering problems Firefox sometimes has (I think Konqueror has the most compatible rendering engine of all the non-IE browsers atm. Never had a site look messed up on it.). It's a pity Konq is part of KDE otherwise I think it would have done well.
That said, Firefox is still pretty damned cool for one reason: You can customise the living buggery out of it! :D
The extensions system is really *really* cool. You can make the browser into anything you want with them :)
The customisability alone is what keeps it on my system - I've Opera-fied the interface as much as I can, even down to my beloved mouse-gesturing. It's great! ;)
Post by: Darkage on September 26, 2004, 06:23:09 pm
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Post by: Hippo on September 26, 2004, 06:57:26 pm
Post by: aldo_14 on September 27, 2004, 02:49:35 pm
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Originally posted by Ghostavo
What's the diference between Firefox 0.8 and 1.0?
0.2
Post by: Windrunner on September 27, 2004, 04:00:24 pm
Post by: Hippo on September 27, 2004, 04:27:54 pm
Post by: Blitzerland on September 27, 2004, 06:02:33 pm
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
:wtf:
Are you aware that using more than one anti-virus or firewall software will lead to problems. These softwares are using low level drivers for example, which may conflict and cause god knows what problems. If a virus is found, it may very well be that none your virus scanners can actually do anything about it.
Best description for it would be that you have ten very hungry dogs and then you throw a piece of food in middle of them. They start fighting over that piece of food.
So using more than one anti-virus software will actually weaken your protection.
I alternate between them, I don't run them all at once, in case there is something one of them doesn't catch.
Post by: Fury on September 27, 2004, 11:29:55 pm