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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: redsniper on September 22, 2004, 03:37:47 pm
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So, yesterday star wars came out on DVD. I went out and bought it and watched RotJ with my family last night. Well, in the scene at the end where Luke sees the 3 ghosts darth's ghost IS replaced by the actor from ep 2. Those pictures weren't fake. boo frickin' hoo.
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We KNOW!
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I can almost cope with that, I can even, almost, cope with Gungans invading the final celebration (though why the Jedi Tower is still standing on Coruscant, I don't know, a trophy, perhaps?). I was fine with the enhanced effects, and changing English scipt into Imperial scipt, some of them made sense, others made no difference.
What I cannot abide, is the 'Greebo shoots first' thing. It completely destroys the entire personality introduction for Han :(
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greebo has always fired first....... he just sucks ass with a blaster
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Kaz, go watch the ORIGINAL VHS release. Han shoots first.
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Hey, I have that.
I might watch it later.
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IIRC in the origional VHS greebo wasn't even shown shooting
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That's because he didn't. Han is mid-sentence with Greebo facing him, Han fires, Greebo slumps forward, Greebo never got the chance to fire. But Lucas changed it so that Greebo fires, using CG. Thus making Han not look such a 'Bad Man' :(
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um i disagree with your evaluation - it was clear that he was firing to protect himself in the first version, showing that greebo did shoot doesn't change that -- he still killed another sentient, either way it was in self defense
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it's greedo, btw
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Anyone remind me why people still need to buy yet another copy of the same movie over and over again when the original will sufice...
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He was, but Lucas was under the impression that having Han kill Greedo when Greedo hadn't made an obvious attempt on Han's life made Han look too much like a 'Murderer'. It just seems a pointless thing to change, and, has been mentioned before, Star Wars as much about Han Solos redemtion as it was about Darth Vaders.
My problem with it is that Mos Eisley is the 'Biggest den of thieves and cut-throats' etc, and Han Solo was one of them, so why shouldn't he shoot first and ask questions later?
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*dies a little inside*
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Nooo! The graphical revisions were fine, but what the hell is the point of all these other wierd changes? :wtf:
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Apparently to make it more acceptable to Children, which is wierd, cos I was about 7 when I watched Star Wars :)
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Oh god, tell me your joking. I'm so sick of all this "children-friendly movies" crap.
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My worst fear is waking up with no lower half of my body, followed by sock puppets.
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I just watched ep IV, and thought it was pretty fine, especially without the tape graininess. The whole 'who shot first?' thing is pretty unimportant to the plot, the IMPORTANT thing is that somebody gets thier arm cut off with a lightsaber.....
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Ah, but Obi-Wan does that, so it must be ok ;)
Oh, and for the Scottish amongst us :-
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Jokes__Review_5188074
Sharon found this :D
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I think I wouldn't have minded the edits like Greedo shooting first and Han stomping on Jabba's tail if they just weren't so crappily done!
When Han 'dodges' Greedo's laser shot, it's like they did a Photoshop Lasso cut, and shifted Han to the left for 5 frames then shifted him back. It just looked *soo naff*
And when he steps one Jabba's tail - again, Lasso cut, shift up for 10 frames, shift back down. Gah!
And Jabba's rendering was so crappy - The *puppet* looked more realistic FFS! (Well, I suppose it *was* real technically...)
See, some of the edit's were good - For instance, that part where Han is chasing some stormtroopers down a corridor in the Deathstar, and suddenly he's like, "AAA!" and runs away.
In the original, it's really stupid because he runs into like, 4 troopers. Not too scary.
In the edit, he runs into more like 4 HUNDRED troopers ;)
Almost all the edits in Empire were very very good too - I actually prefer the enhanced Empire's.
They ruined the ending for RotJ IMHO 'tho - The music doesn't fit and that attempt to integrate the Ewok helmet xylophone was just so pathetic.
I liked the original better, even if the song did make me cringe and want to kill small fuzzy bear-like beings ;) (And no I don't mean the Ob'enn)
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Originally posted by Clave
I just watched ep IV, and thought it was pretty fine, especially without the tape graininess. The whole 'who shot first?' thing is pretty unimportant to the plot, the IMPORTANT thing is that somebody gets thier arm cut off with a lightsaber.....
with blood.
Had that for the big snow monster in tESB too, didn;t they
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Considering that Lightsabers cauterize cannonly now...
Can anyone confirm the naboo starfighters in the BoY?
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@ Flipside :lol:
Darth Vader trying to shoot down Luke Skywalker
"The Force is strong in this one"
"Stop shooglin' ya wee b*****d!"
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:rolleyes:
Strangely, I think I've said that one playing FS2.........
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Originally posted by Cyker
I liked the original better, even if the song did make me cringe and want to kill small fuzzy bear-like beings ;) (And no I don't mean the Ob'enn)
This is why I thank god for Star Wars Battlefront. Mowing down the little bastards with an AT-ST's main guns is just soooo rewarding.
That and running over Gungans with a droid army battle tank in the Naboo battlefield. :D
"Mesa be hearing sometin'"
*tank rolls over the hill to the tune of Ride of the Valkries*
*various crunching sounds*
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NEEEEEERDS!
*runs*
;) ;)
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Friend took the screencaps....
(http://smalltimerivalry.com/sschost/scriptsscblade/Hayden.jpg)
GAH.
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Because of course it makes sense that Obi-Wan and Yoda didn't get any younger when they died and yet Anakin suddenly does.
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The original picture as found on the web.
(http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/zs/rotj/ghosts1.jpg)
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It's that hair, something about that hair makes me want to turn to the Dark Side as well :(
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(http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040922l.jpg)
Have back all the hair you had in college! Long, lustrous locks are within your grasp! Join the Dark Side, and you'll be living it up with your new do; the chicks won't be able to keep their hands of you.
Joooooooin us....
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Ugh....
I think I'll stick with my VHS for now, thank you.
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Heh...cat with a lightsaber...I like it...BUT NOT IN STAR WARS!!111oneone11!!111
Why do they try to add comedy relief to Star Wars? Jar-Jar, anyone? That guy annoyed the crap out of me.
As wierd as that comic is...it is very relevant, eh?
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That's why it was written....