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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: kasperl on September 23, 2004, 04:49:22 am

Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: kasperl on September 23, 2004, 04:49:22 am: OK, I'm looking for a LiveCD thingy, which includes a virusscanner for windows virusses, SiSoftSandra, basic browsing capability, and reading/writing as much HD formats as possible. Why? I'm helping old people fix their computers, and since none run a proper virusscanner, and have a phone line net conn, those poor PC's are generally borked. Installing a virusscanner is generally not all that easy, since I like legal ones when it comes to stuff like that, and I won't stock up on editions of Norton '04 just to hope someone will pay me back.

Options?
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Zarax on September 23, 2004, 04:54:16 am: Try BartPE...
It does more or less what knoppix do, but is Windows based...
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Fury on September 23, 2004, 05:07:17 am: http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: kasperl on September 23, 2004, 05:13:04 am: Zarax: does it include a free virusscanner?

EDIT: this is about as legal is installing my own copy of windows on the users hard drive. This drops, since this thing has to be legal.
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Zarax on September 23, 2004, 05:15:29 am: Just add Avast to it and you're done...
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: kasperl on September 23, 2004, 05:18:41 am: Erm, Avast?

Also, the legality is kind of a real issue here, because I am going to be running this on a lot of others people's computers. And I forgot. Something that could run on a computer with less then 192MB RAM would be nice too. (I'll happily take a command line shell too. I'll learn the necesary commands soon enough.)
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Zarax on September 23, 2004, 05:21:44 am: Avast home is free, and the thing should be legal issue free...
At least it is as long as you don't try to use BartPE to replace Windows (it won't let you do that AFAIK)...
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Fury on September 23, 2004, 05:21:56 am: Using BartPE is perfectly legal. Read through the instructions and add the software you need yourself.
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: kasperl on September 23, 2004, 06:45:19 am: If I read it correctly, the thing copys my windows. Now, that is ok as long as I use it on the same PC, and destroy the original. The moment that copy goes out of the house, and I let someone else use it, or use it on a diffferent PC, it becomes illegal. (Windows is only licensed for use on one (1) PC, AFAIK. That's why you have the register stuff.)

Avast sounds nice, I'll google.
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Zarax on September 23, 2004, 06:48:24 am: Err... It's more the kind of use that could make it illegal...
So far i've never heard of people having legal problems with BartPE...
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: kasperl on September 23, 2004, 10:46:36 am: What would make it illegal?
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Zarax on September 23, 2004, 10:57:07 am: Well, what makes it illegal is stated in Bart PE homepage...
As rule of thumb if you install non freeware apps with it then that would make an illegal use...
Shareware is covered as long as the individual licensing terms are...
BartPE won't allow you to use it to make illegal copies of Windows itself so you can stay covered on that...
I do pretty much the same stuff you're doing as part time job since the nineties, and as long as you keep yourself on freeware you won't meet problems...
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: kasperl on September 23, 2004, 11:04:08 am: But since I still would be making a copy of my windows, I'd be violating the EULA, AFIAK. If it was legal to make a copy of windows for use on another system, we wouldn't have product reg, right?

Also, even if it was legal, windows needs 256MB to run when it is installed to an HD and has a swap drive. That's not the kind of stuff I expect to run without a swap drive on a 128MB system.
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Zarax on September 23, 2004, 11:16:23 am: As long you don't make a full install of it there are no problems... About the spec you should get to the BartPE website...
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: kasperl on September 23, 2004, 11:53:59 am: It is not legal to use a BartPE CD and an installed Windows XP/2003 both at the same time under the same Windows XP/2003 EULA.

If I read it correctly, there is no way I can use this without formatting my laptop every time I go to someone I want to help. Not an option, really.
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Kamikaze on September 23, 2004, 06:06:35 pm: http://www.localareasecurity.com/
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: kasperl on September 24, 2004, 03:38:22 am: Kam: That looks great, does it have a virusscanner for windows virusses?

Also, where is the applist?
Title: LiveCD with virusscanner
Post by: Kamikaze on September 24, 2004, 08:38:00 am: It includes http://www.clamav.net/ which does Windows viruses (in the package links area).

To use it, I'm guessing you'd have to mount your Windows partitions while using LAS. I'm sure that mounting Fat will not be a problem, however I don't know if LAS supports NTFS mounting. Knoppix has the capability, I don't know if that's been copied.