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Title: Uh, not sure if I really wanna show this..
Post by: magatsu1 on September 25, 2004, 02:33:08 pm
(http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/piccy2.JPG)

(http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/piccy1.JPG)

It's not 'sposed to be shivan, just hostile.
What do you guys think of this ? I'm not really sure if  it's gonna work....:doubt:
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Post by: aldo_14 on September 25, 2004, 02:35:20 pm
Nope.

Sorry.
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Post by: Zarax on September 25, 2004, 02:37:25 pm
Err...
If you want to do a good work then you need something better than stock textures...
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Post by: Kie99 on September 25, 2004, 02:40:52 pm
1 question
why?
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Post by: c914 on September 25, 2004, 02:44:29 pm
:wtf:
OMG..nooooo....live Orion alone....this change of texsutres might kill him
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 25, 2004, 02:46:35 pm
the idea is somethin' familiar but kinda freaky (and obviously hostile) and I haved to use stock/ exisiting textures.
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Post by: Zarax on September 25, 2004, 02:48:24 pm
Try using Iceni textures then... They MIGHT give some better results...
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 25, 2004, 02:50:24 pm
no way
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Post by: TrashMan on September 25, 2004, 03:30:39 pm
I saw a shiven-like Oriojn out there...

A picture I ran across in google..
Looked cool!

Ahhyes...found it:
(http://www.wild666.freeserve.co.uk/SDOrion.jpg)
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Post by: Black Wolf on September 25, 2004, 03:32:05 pm
I believe that's the work of Dark. As always, damned fine.
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 25, 2004, 04:02:48 pm
uh, anyone got any model dumps handy ? (other Aldo's #4, got that already)

I wanna destroyer!!
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Post by: Kie99 on September 25, 2004, 05:03:10 pm
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Post by: Kie99 on September 25, 2004, 05:06:14 pm
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Originally posted by kietotheworld
What's the point though, (apart from nice screenies) of reskinning a [color=Bright green]Terran[/color] ship with Shivan textures. The Shivans never capture any [color=Bright green]Terran[/color] Ships just blow them to hell
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Post by: Kie99 on September 25, 2004, 05:13:49 pm
WTF?? :confused:
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Post by: karajorma on September 25, 2004, 05:15:49 pm
You pressed quote instead of edit. :)
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Post by: MatthewPapa on September 25, 2004, 05:17:31 pm
Too bad Dark is gone.....
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Post by: Kie99 on September 25, 2004, 05:19:40 pm
Yeah but all the weird spaces and everything
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Post by: aldo_14 on September 25, 2004, 05:20:18 pm
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Originally posted by magatsu1
the idea is somethin' familiar but kinda freaky (and obviously hostile) and I haved to use stock/ exisiting textures.


Use at least some of the existing Orion textures, but grey-scaled.  For the hull texture (i.e. the blue one which you;ve replaced with that 'jaggy' one), what you do is get a burn or black spraypaint tool... create a blacked out region on the texture (several is better).  

Select it with a colour-mask, this should select the pure black inner region (the shaded exterior should be unselected).

The select a Shivan texture, and paste it into the selected region.  It should look like it has been sunk into the hull, which is pretty cool if it works.

For example; (5 minutes work, no quality control :)  But you get the idea)

(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/temp/testHyb1.jpg)
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/temp/testHyb2.jpg)

EDIT; Should point out, you;re best using a brush with a big gradient... I used a burn tool here, which had a sharp gradient, so there's a sharp transition between the filled in Shivan bits and the original hull texture.
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 25, 2004, 06:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by kietotheworld
What's the point though, (apart from nice screenies) of reskinning a Terran ship with Shivan textures. The Shivans never capture any Terran Ships just blow them to hell  


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Originally posted by magatsu1
It's not 'sposed to be shivan, just hostile.



like I said....
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Post by: Kie99 on September 25, 2004, 06:17:44 pm
But why would anyone want to make a cleary terran ship have a shivan paint job.

Unless they tore the armour off a shivan ship and used it on an orion, but then it wouldn't be necessarily hostile.
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Post by: Blitzerland on September 25, 2004, 06:27:52 pm
It isn't that bad... :)

*Dodges flames

Ha! Ha! Fools! You'll never take me down!
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Post by: Taristin on September 25, 2004, 06:40:04 pm
I'm not fond of it at all. Sorry.
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Post by: Blitzerland on September 25, 2004, 06:45:03 pm
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Originally posted by Raa
I'm not fond of it at all. Sorry.


Well, it isn't really finished, from the looks of it. Magatsu should probably have finished texturing first. Other than that, it isn't THAT bad.

*dodges flame mk. II

Ha! Ha! Sucka!
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Post by: Taristin on September 25, 2004, 07:01:04 pm
Don't make me trout you...

Anywho. I never liked the original Orion. Thought it looked like a Lego monstrosity. I never understood mapping ships with shivan maps to make them 'evil,' either. And I did say that I wasn't fond of it. And since that automatically makes it my opinion, I'm free to keep it. Wether you like it or not, I think it's ugly, and a waste of energy. He could be making other, better ships, instead of wasting time on upgrading a horrible base design. My opinion.
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Post by: Blitzerland on September 25, 2004, 07:12:06 pm
Oh, okay.

I'll go...away...place...
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Post by: TrashMan on September 25, 2004, 07:27:43 pm
Let's assume Shivans changed their tactics a bit...

I mean, wwe know nothing about them, so it's not far fetched if after beeing outsmarted by the GTVA (twice), they try something new..

Besides, you can make it look run down, blaasted, as tough it has been in a battle and lost, left adrift...The shivans (or someone else) took over then...
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Post by: Taristin on September 25, 2004, 07:31:01 pm
But the shivans destroy. They don't assimilate. They're not the borg. :blah:
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Post by: aldo_14 on September 25, 2004, 07:34:47 pm
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Originally posted by kietotheworld
But why would anyone want to make a cleary terran ship have a shivan paint job.

Unless they tore the armour off a shivan ship and used it on an orion, but then it wouldn't be necessarily hostile.


Hybridised armour, I guess.  (i.e. rogue GTVI anyone?).

Albeit I've always felt hybrids should be completely new, not using a combination of existing maps.
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on September 26, 2004, 02:01:05 am
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Originally posted by magatsu1
(http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/piccy1.JPG)

I see a recessed area in the nose, that isn't present in the standard pof.  You've made some alterations?
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Post by: Night Hammer on September 26, 2004, 02:13:02 am
It looks hostile yes........but it looks too Shivan. You might try using the Saphah textures from Derelict if anything. My personal opinion is go out and get a different new destoyer all together. Redone Orions are kinda played out IMO:nod:
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 26, 2004, 08:25:23 am
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Originally posted by Trivial Psychic

I see a recessed area in the nose, that isn't present in the standard pof.  You've made some alterations?


yeah, loads of little touches (note engine layout)

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Originally posted by Blitzerland
Well, it isn't really finished, from the looks of it. Magatsu should probably have finished texturing first. Other than that, it isn't THAT bad.


Wanted to see what response it got before going to the effort of finishing it.

Quote
Originally posted by Raa
He could be making other, better ships, instead of wasting time on upgrading a horrible base design. My opinion.


Already am doing. Might try some tile mods like Aldo suggested aswell though.
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Post by: Hippo on September 26, 2004, 08:59:09 am
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Originally posted by kietotheworld
The Shivans never capture any Terran Ships




Depends on who you ask... :nervous: ... (http://sectorgame.com/ahtw)





Oh, and I flat out refuse to quote that colored text.




As for the model, I liked Dark's better... (it was FS1, therefore It=better :p )...



Yeah... I think youi lost all of us there megastu...
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 26, 2004, 12:26:29 pm
http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/Freaky-Orion.jpg  (http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/Freaky-Orion.jpg )

http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/Freaky-Orion2.jpg (http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/Freaky-Orion2.jpg)

Woo! My first texture modding.

Please note: I'm doing this for the pratice and for a laugh. So I don't want no moaning or any fan-boy rants, 'kay ? :blah: :D

(that's why I didn't bother tidying all the UV etc)
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Post by: Zarax on September 26, 2004, 12:50:25 pm
Hey, not bad at all ;)
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Post by: c914 on September 26, 2004, 12:54:30 pm
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http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/Freaky-Orion.jpg
http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/Freaky-Orion2.jpg


We are the Shivans...blablabla... You will be assimilated...blablabla..
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Post by: Nuke on September 26, 2004, 07:13:29 pm
oddly enough it reminds me of pirate vessels from privateer 2.
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Post by: NGTM-1R on September 26, 2004, 07:22:45 pm
The Shivans by way of Homeworld: Cataclysm's Beast?

'Cuz that could really pass for Infected with the right textures...
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Post by: Galemp on September 26, 2004, 08:13:33 pm
You should have followed your first instincts... :ick:
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 27, 2004, 04:53:22 pm
no pleasing you guys....!!
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Post by: Nuke on September 27, 2004, 04:56:54 pm
we are the shivans, existance is futle, you will be evicerated
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Post by: NGTM-1R on September 27, 2004, 05:05:47 pm
Actually, I could make use of that. GTI hybrid design strikes again!
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Post by: vyper on September 27, 2004, 05:36:15 pm
This has been done before because I remember stealing it for Maelstrom.
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Post by: Getter Robo G on September 27, 2004, 06:28:57 pm
As usual I've already stolen those two textures the day they were posted!  :P

  Don't worry about it, I think we all go through our "Shivinized [insert model here] phase". And I think it was a cool idea... The MOST important thing is how YOU feel about it. Use it or dump it, the rest can pike off. (this is in the top 5 of modding rules)...
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on September 27, 2004, 07:37:39 pm
Whether or not the Shivan hybrid idea works, I so think that the model itself could go over well as an upgraded Orion variant.  Just slap standard Orion textures or perhaps some FS2 style ones, and you've got an upgraded Orion, with a higher top speed (thanks to the extra engine) and another fighterbay in the nose.  Just needs FS2-ish turrets.  Now, a while back, Raptor made a re-gunned orion model and he was considering replacing the mini-stub guns on the side with more dish-oriented ones, like the big ones on the Colossus.  Dish guns would look good for this model, if its intended as an FS2-ish Orion upgrade.

Later!
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 28, 2004, 02:37:11 am
like I said, it ain't supposed to be shivan, just sinister or evil (or whatever)
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Post by: Zarax on September 28, 2004, 03:37:41 am
Well, if it's what you need then a darker Orion textures set would achieve it better imho...
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 28, 2004, 11:57:31 am
too easy (and boring)
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Post by: Taristin on September 28, 2004, 01:10:52 pm
And sterotypically SOC. :doubt:
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Post by: NGTM-1R on September 28, 2004, 04:17:25 pm
The Hades, except it actually looks good...GTI hybridized design, I'm tellin' ya.
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Post by: magatsu1 on September 29, 2004, 03:15:45 pm
(http://premium.uploadit.org/magatsu1/aaaahitsevil.JPG)


I've decide it's the diabolical plan of a rogue NTF General to construct an evil, evil ship to further his insane lust for power. And it's powered by the stolen souls of dead fighter pilots and has a sort of twisted evil will of it's own. That's how evil it is.
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Post by: StratComm on September 29, 2004, 04:17:53 pm
I'll say it's evil, it uses giant horseshoe magnets as it's primary cannons! :p

That's better, but it's still quite plainly shivan textures.  If you've got a reason or are using this for something parody-related, then it's fine.  But if it's for a serious campaign use something a little more obscure for the textures.