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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Grimloq on September 30, 2004, 07:33:49 pm

Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: Grimloq on September 30, 2004, 07:33:49 pm
here it is, the model, in full:

(http://www.waycoolpages.com/originorder/irathinak.png)

comments? id appreciate it if there were no flames, tho :p

its a shivan dreadnought, about 4km long. this thing kills other things!

BTW, my first texture job where i actually made a heavy effort with aligning!
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: TrashMan on September 30, 2004, 07:38:36 pm
Very nice! Alltough you should ditch that grey metal stripes texture! It's horrendus!
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: Blitzerland on September 30, 2004, 07:48:35 pm
What TrashMan said. :nod:


Really nice, actually.
:)
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: Grimloq on September 30, 2004, 07:53:54 pm
heh, thx and thx. actually, the rusty-brown metal is supposed to be like that: ugly.[edit] er, sry, i misunderstood. check my next post...[/edit] the idea is that this is a ship (ship, not class) that has been around since the great war. the shivans never decomissioned em, and they most all survived, so naturally, they get dirty! anywayz, you never know. i have 2 other shivan ships, but... you never know :)

[edit] gah, im such an airhead! i almost forgot: im also making this other terran battleship (new ship designation, i dont want to explain yet. im sleepy and need a nap :p ) but it is for something; that brings me to my point: i have this idea for a campaign, REALLY good, im talking (if i can get the missions and MODs good) FS1+FS2 quality. if i ever do anything with it, itll be after TI is released (im on the team. dont want to do TOO many things at once!) , but still... i was wondering if theres like, 'rules' of the community for that kind of stuff, or if its like just me and a few friends just slowly made it ourselves... i know its a dumb question, but what the heck.
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Post by: Blitzerland on September 30, 2004, 07:56:02 pm
That should mean they don't have any (maybe only 1 or 2) beam cannons, then.

When can I download that puppy? Might have a use for it in Legacy...:yes:
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: Grimloq on September 30, 2004, 08:03:33 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Blitzerland
That should mean they don't have any (maybe only 1 or 2) beam cannons, then.

When can I download that puppy? Might have a use for it in Legacy...:yes:


beam cannons... why? i didnt mean to imply that the shivans didnt keep them in working order... if thats what you mean...

and as for d/ling, well, see my previous edit. this ship MAY find its way into that campaign... if not, then it will likely be uploaded SOMEwheres.

and BTW, grey metal stripes texture: i misunderstood. i thought you meant the rusty 'shell' texture for some reason :p . sry yes, the metal stripes texture is horribly sickeningly awful, and will go away :) . but, i cant find any textures that work well yet (and havnt gotten around to making any) so thats all there is for now.

and also BTW, i dont actually know some of the finer points of MODing FS2, but when i do, ill add all the cool SCP-enabled stuffz, then snapshot it. itll give oyu a better idea of exactly how cool it is...
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Post by: Night Hammer on September 30, 2004, 09:28:14 pm
Very nice :yes:
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Post by: deep_eyes on September 30, 2004, 09:29:06 pm
THATS FUXOIN AWESOME!
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Post by: phreak on September 30, 2004, 10:08:36 pm
looks like the ravana got a large tumor.. somehow.
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: NGTM-1R on September 30, 2004, 10:17:55 pm
It does look somehow older then the other Shivan designs...
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Post by: Grimloq on September 30, 2004, 11:22:26 pm
ya, i dont know how, but all my shivan ships either turn out crap or FS1-style... :) but in not complaining.
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: Gloriano on September 30, 2004, 11:43:08 pm
Really nice :)  oh and

:welcome: :D
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Post by: boewolf on September 30, 2004, 11:53:40 pm
Just wondering does anyone else think that without the spikes on the rear end and reskined, could it look like a Vas warship?
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Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 01, 2004, 01:20:15 am
That's some sweet model, I like the rusty bit but the grey doesn't quite match. Though I do like the contrast.

I don't think it looks like a Vasudan warship though, too many spikes (lot of spikes at the head too). And it looks too much like a Demon to be considered Vasudan. Vasudan ships tend to be fairly flat
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Post by: aldo_14 on October 01, 2004, 03:07:26 am
Interesting, but I fear it may look like a big underdetailed blob when enlarged to 4km size.  That may just be the grey texture, though.
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Post by: Black Wolf on October 01, 2004, 03:57:32 am
Your shivan stuff is really getting better with each new model, though, like others have said, the grey stripy texture could definitel be replaced. Perhaps some comination of the "detail" textures (eg. CorvStile4a, CruisTileS2A etc.)
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Post by: Gai Daigoji on October 01, 2004, 04:01:51 am
Good job, I really like what you've done.

It looks like an old design of Shivan warship but either way I like it :D
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: c914 on October 01, 2004, 05:09:47 am
model is good:yes: but need lots of texsture work:nod:
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Post by: Kie99 on October 01, 2004, 01:06:11 pm
Got a name for it?
Here's my idea if you don't
Sadena
Sa- Cos its got Sathanas Spikes
De- Cos its rear end and the extra bit at the front looks like it
Ra- Cos the main front bit looks like it
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 01, 2004, 01:28:10 pm
I could be wrong, but I'm guessing "Irithanik" is the name as the title of this thread suggests
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: Grimloq on October 01, 2004, 03:46:01 pm
nope. you wouldnt be wrong there :)

and the grey stripes, ONCE AGAIN, will go away. im looking round for a scaly-stripey-grey-rusty texture, that one is the closest i could find. any help there would be greatly appreciated :p

ya, i also think it may become a blob too, but i also do think that thats the rotten texturing. it needs a better main body texture...
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Post by: Taristin on October 01, 2004, 03:56:31 pm
Interesting.
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Post by: StratComm on October 01, 2004, 04:27:56 pm
Well you see, when a GVFr Bes, a worm, and a spider love each other very much... :D

Just kidding.  I like the design, but parts are a little hard to make out under the stretched and distorted textures.  Even the back end needs some work; box mapping isn't always the best answer (especially on something that's trying to be round) but at least that part's better.  Could we see some more angles?
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Post by: Mongoose on October 01, 2004, 04:34:38 pm
Very cool model :D.
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Post by: Kie99 on October 01, 2004, 05:13:11 pm
:o
Yeah well I still like Sadena
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Post by: Grimloq on October 01, 2004, 06:56:24 pm
sedna... what is a 'sedna'? i may use it for future shivan ships...;7

more angles... sure. ill go render some.

BTW, dont forget that the engines are, right now, nothing more than a big red plane. :p

ok, heres some more angles:

(http://waycoolpages.com/originorder/irathinak1.jpg)
(http://waycoolpages.com/originorder/irathinak2.jpg)
(http://waycoolpages.com/originorder/irathinak3.jpg)

enjoy!
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Post by: NGTM-1R on October 01, 2004, 08:34:38 pm
Creepy-looking fella. Definitely buglike in the original Shivan style, which is a good thing IMO.
Title: SDn Irathinak. comments..? *caution, 800x600 pic*
Post by: Grimloq on October 01, 2004, 09:30:35 pm
precisely the look im looking for,
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Post by: c914 on October 02, 2004, 05:03:45 am
ship coud look better if it was litle slim and please next time use black background:nod:
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Post by: Lightspeed on October 02, 2004, 05:59:56 am
It's okay, but only remotely shivan. Its too much of a fat, solid block, whereas shivan ships have spiky extensions from the hull. :nod:

Add some "arms" and it'll be more like it. And change those textures :o
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Post by: mitac on October 02, 2004, 06:11:09 am
This thing doesn't look bad, but it somehow reminds me of an Orion assimiliated by the Shivans, a piece of rock with an engine and some beam cannon arms attached to it.

Though, with those grey textures it would be great for asteroid field ambushs. :p
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Post by: TopAce on October 02, 2004, 07:44:01 am
Advanced Demon?
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Post by: Blitzerland on October 02, 2004, 09:09:03 am
I want it.
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Post by: Unknown Target on October 02, 2004, 09:28:55 am
It's too fat at the end, and I'd get rid of the bridge. Pretty much all shivan ships don't have a discenerable bridge, and I think only the Nahema has an actual cockpit.
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Post by: Kie99 on October 02, 2004, 11:52:21 am
Quote
Originally posted by Grimloq
sedna... what is a 'sedna'? i may use it for future shivan ships...;7


Sadena is a name made up by me from Sathanas (Sa-) Demon (-de-) Ravana (-na) You will need either my permission or a lack of Conscience to use it!

Edit: F***ing awesome model though
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Post by: Grimloq on October 02, 2004, 01:51:42 pm
meh, i have no consience (i killed it years ago) but ill ask your permission anywayz :p

i was trying to kinda merge the demon a little bit and the sathanas a little bit and the archangel a little bit. but , the name is differet, since Dethagel sounds pretty lame :doubt:

actually, dethagel isnt *too* bad... more like a fighter...

and, ya, ill probably lose the bridge eventually, i just wanted to see what it would look like :) and it looks ok, actually, just it messes up the shivan-ness...

lemme get some piccys of demon, ravana, ect so you guys can see what im saying.

oops, i didnt say it yet :p i meant to say that the reason its not so spikey is because the demon was rather un-spikey as shivan ships go. the arms just are there like mini-sathanas ones (not as powerful, tho) and i also plan to maybe get some spikes on the bottom, a la demon. it would help break up the monotony a bit too... beleive me, if i can get this the way i plan (now), itll be a work of art :)
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Post by: Setekh on October 03, 2004, 07:26:31 am
I love it - definitely think it has room for improvement, but is a stunning piece nonetheless. Use it as a launchpad and start on a new Shivan design, using the lessons you learnt from this one.

Oh, and welcome to HLP, Grimloq. :)

:welcome:
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Post by: Grimloq on October 03, 2004, 03:41:42 pm
thx :) and im forcing myself to learn how to make shivan ships. this is only my 3rd one...
Title: I like it!
Post by: Getter Robo G on October 03, 2004, 04:32:01 pm
When I look at it ir sorta reminds me of a tick-relative,, makes me want to step on it in revulsion.. (translation) GREAT JOB!!! :yes:

   Now some screenies of it being naughty   please...
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Post by: Grimloq on October 04, 2004, 12:21:51 pm
it still has SOME work to be done:

A) over my dead body will that stripey-grey be seen in-game :p
B) i dont actually know how to do pof conversion yet, but if somebody could point me to a (decent) tutorial... the last one i got was utter crap :mad:
C) i havnt added turrets yet. :D thats probably the biggest problem!

i can, however, make a render of it 'being naughty', as you say... :p
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Post by: Galemp on October 04, 2004, 03:26:07 pm
I love the bloat! Gives it its uniqueness. Could use a little texture help, however, but that's been said.

There's also more possibility for variation... it needs to look a little more 'alien.' Take some of the perpendicular and straight edges and curl them around, twist it, curve it, distort it. Some subtle asymmetry might help as well, but don't make it look like it was made from boxes.
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Post by: Grimloq on October 04, 2004, 04:21:31 pm
ill think about that...:)
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Post by: Kie99 on October 04, 2004, 04:31:49 pm
Maybe DeathAngel would be a good name instead of Dethagel, why not make it an obvious name. Oh yeah before I forget
:welcome:
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Post by: Grimloq on October 04, 2004, 04:37:34 pm
i thought about dethangel, but i mean, what kind of shivan ship is called a 'deathangel'?:rolleyes:

and thx.
Title: Wow
Post by: Getter Robo G on October 04, 2004, 05:38:15 pm
When someone said "bloated" all of a sudden I had an image of a bloated black widow, then it got me thinking of space elves (like Eldar from WH40K) but they worship Lolth from D&D.  Evil Space Drow!!!

suggested fantasy names:

  The Yochel class (after handmaidens of Lolth)

  Matron class (after matron mothers)

   just kidding.... :p

   Back to our Shivan program...
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Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 04, 2004, 06:19:29 pm
I say just pick some demon name out of mythology and use it. There's no reason to make up names when there's a plethora of cool names already out there.
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Post by: Grimloq on October 04, 2004, 06:21:21 pm
i know. i use em sometimes, but sometimes i like to make em up, cuz you just get better ones IMO, but matters of opinion are not arguable...
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Post by: Eviscerator on October 04, 2004, 07:36:00 pm
Everything else has been said, so I will just say that I like it.
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Post by: Corsair on October 04, 2004, 08:11:00 pm
I think it looks older because he used the Demon textures...
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on October 05, 2004, 09:49:56 pm
I just had a thought.  Give it a shield mesh and it could be the ship that the Shivans originally sent to blast the Ancient's homeworld.  None of the cutscenes said that it was a Lucifer that did it, they only implied that the main cap ship or ships attacking had shields and used beam weapons.  This could have been a Juggernaught of that era.
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Post by: Kie99 on December 12, 2004, 09:37:00 am
*BUMP* :)
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Post by: Goober5000 on December 12, 2004, 11:09:03 am
Bumping a two month old thread for no reason = bad.