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Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Stunaep on October 02, 2004, 02:24:13 am
It's out! Yes! And it's good! Yes!

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/rome-total-war/550385p1.html
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Grug on October 02, 2004, 12:09:40 pm
Indeed, been playing it for ages.

ROFL at the Incenedary Pigs and War Dogs! (Especially when the general gives a speech to an army of animals :p)
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: karajorma on October 02, 2004, 12:26:07 pm
Why do you think I've been posting less often the last few days? :D

Seriously though the game is brilliant :) There a few little glitches that need some work in the v1.01 patch but nothing too dreadful or which can't be worked around.

I've already completed a short campaign as the Julii so I'm probably going to try a long campaign next so I can see the roman civil war. Might try some of the historical battles first though :D
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: IPAndrews on October 03, 2004, 04:37:35 am
I'm looking forward to playing this game so much. One day.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: DamoclesX on October 03, 2004, 05:06:12 am
I love this game, the battles are just so coooool, its the first game I actually find myself using some sort of tactics.

I -LOVE- the calv..... so many times I have beaten an enemy that had a rating of 4-1 on me by waiting till he did his infantry rush then cutting him down with calv charges, right down the throat:)

I"m playing the red romans doods... got all of france and spain, britian, and parts of africa, right now i'm just trying to keep everything stable.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: SadisticSid on October 03, 2004, 06:01:04 am
Best moment so far - when my onagers blew open a city gate, then one rock bounced through and killed a 10-star Briton general as the first casualty of the battle :D

"Rocks don't respect rank"
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: karajorma on October 03, 2004, 06:35:03 am
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Originally posted by DamoclesX
I -LOVE- the calv..... so many times I have beaten an enemy that had a rating of 4-1 on me by waiting till he did his infantry rush then cutting him down with calv charges, right down the throat:)


I have to say that while that is fun nothing beats an elephant charge! :D

I keep replaying that historical battle with the Egyptians just so I can press delete and ride in with my kataphract elephants :D

Last time I played I sent them after the Egyptian chariots. You should have seen how quickly they ran away :D When they finally did catch up they proceeded to stomp the chariots into the ground. :D Wiped out an entire enemy unit with no loses whatsoever :)
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: kode on October 03, 2004, 06:43:24 am
I haven't played it much yet, but it has potential, and a lot of it.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: karajorma on October 03, 2004, 06:48:46 am
My favourite moment so far was when my 2000 soldier strong army managed to surprise a gaul general who was out on his own. The second the mission starts I send my own general and three units of equite after him knowing that he'll try to run away from my vastly superior force. Only he doesn't. Instead he charges straight at me.

Battle lasted about 20 seconds from start to finish. The gauls weren't victorious :D
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: kode on October 03, 2004, 08:12:07 am
ah, I just happened to have a battle slightly like that. it started with the attacking enemy general charging me with his 11 men big bodyguard.

only, the rest of the army was superior in numbers and strength and there was another general of theirs out there too. I got slaughtered :(
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on October 03, 2004, 08:41:44 am
Awesome game, no doubts about that.

I'm currently fighting as Scipii against Numidians, Egyptians and the remains of Carthage Empire. The only problem is that my settlements keep rioting and the public order is pretty low 90% of the time. I've built just about every single PO raising building  (even a few Colosseums), but apparently the ungrateful idiots still hate me :mad:

I managed to find out that reducing population reduces squalor. So I built a huge army of peasants and sent them against a Numidian army of about 400 spearmen. I ordered all 2000 or so peasants to charge blindly at the enemy. And to my surprise, I won after a huge massacre :D
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Ypoknons on October 03, 2004, 09:11:59 am
Addictive. Closer to real (classical) warefare tatics. Yummy. Not completely true to the time period but I don't mind the artistic license too much. Numindian Infantry, btw, is quite crap and mostly just meat shields for its cav - your peasant army was big, at least :)

I really like the new unit file structure - the listing of units reminds me of the versitility of the FS2's .tbl format, but only with a lot more files and interlinking than FS2 - so messy, but oh well.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: kode on October 03, 2004, 09:54:39 am
cannonfodder: I had syracuse riot on me. I remedied it by slaughtering them when my army returned. they haven't rebelled since then...

I'm currently on a kill carthago campaign. the fricken numidians keep stealing my diplomats, though.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 03, 2004, 10:42:22 am
Just bought it.  Not played yet, but the demo was fun.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Blue Lion on October 03, 2004, 06:41:33 pm
The Gauls charged at me while I was on a bridge. They didn't use the bridge and ran straight into the water. They all drowned and I won.

:wtf:
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Ace on October 03, 2004, 06:57:14 pm
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Originally posted by kode
cannonfodder: I had syracuse riot on me. I remedied it by slaughtering them when my army returned. they haven't rebelled since then...

I'm currently on a kill carthago campaign. the fricken numidians keep stealing my diplomats, though.


My first game was the long campaign as house Scipii.

I managed to make an alliance with the Numidians early on and after I took over Sicily I managed to kick the butts of the Carthaginians. It then led to my taking over most of the Iberian peninsula.

I started a campaign against Egypt, the most powerful nation in the game (I was second place) and then the Numidians betrayed me.

Needless to say, they were all put to the sword.

It was tricky fighting a war on two fronts though. Especially with the constant Egyptian attacks.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Blue Lion on October 03, 2004, 07:29:28 pm
I have yet to face Epypt. As Julii you almost have to go through Rome to get to them.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: an0n on October 03, 2004, 07:50:07 pm
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Originally posted by Blue Lion
The Gauls charged at me while I was on a bridge. They didn't use the bridge and ran straight into the water. They all drowned and I won.

:wtf:
They're French. What did you expect?
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: GoulMeister on October 03, 2004, 09:52:41 pm
what kind of specs do u need to play this game, my comp sucks
p4 1.6, 320 mb sdram, ati radeon 9000 pro 128.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 04, 2004, 03:20:30 am
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Originally posted by karajorma
My favourite moment so far was when my 2000 soldier strong army managed to surprise a gaul general who was out on his own. The second the mission starts I send my own general and three units of equite after him knowing that he'll try to run away from my vastly superior force. Only he doesn't. Instead he charges straight at me.

Battle lasted about 20 seconds from start to finish. The gauls weren't victorious :D


Oh my God!  You killed Asterix!

I had something like that first run through,  'cept had my 800 or so army against 500 Gauls.  Sent a couple of light cavalry to draw them into my legions and flanked them with another couple of units on the right side, up a mountain pass.  Then, just as they're 'wavering', unleashed 90-odd wardogs on their arse.

Hehe.

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Originally posted by GoulMeister
what kind of specs do u need to play this game, my comp sucks
p4 1.6, 320 mb sdram, ati radeon 9000 pro 128.


ypou might be able to manage (albeit on lower settings) with that.  I'm running at 102*768 with most settings on high, with a Athlon 2400+, 512MB RAM & GF5600, although I've only had battles with <2000 units total so far.  Try the demo.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: karajorma on October 04, 2004, 06:17:12 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
I had something like that first run through,  'cept had my 800 or so army against 500 Gauls.  Sent a couple of light cavalry to draw them into my legions and flanked them with another couple of units on the right side, up a mountain pass.  Then, just as they're 'wavering', unleashed 90-odd wardogs on their arse.


I love wardogs. The thing is that once you've let slip the "dogs of war" you can't get them to go back to their handlers as far as I can see.  So quite often my men have been in trouble and all of a sudden a bunch of now well fed wardogs have charged in from elsewhere on the battlefield and saved the day :D
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 04, 2004, 06:36:41 am
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Originally posted by karajorma


I love wardogs. The thing is that once you've let slip the "dogs of war" you can't get them to go back to their handlers as far as I can see.  So quite often my men have been in trouble and all of a sudden a bunch of now well fed wardogs have charged in from elsewhere on the battlefield and saved the day :D


Or even when storming a town.... I wanted to send cavalry through the  gates to attack, but the enemy had long-pikey-blokes ready there.  So I sent in the wardogs into them....and they legged it away at full pace to god-know-where.  Nearly pissed myself laughing at that one.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: kode on October 04, 2004, 08:25:03 am
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Originally posted by GoulMeister
what kind of specs do u need to play this game, my comp sucks
p4 1.6, 320 mb sdram, ati radeon 9000 pro 128.


I'm running it fine on a 1800+ with 256mb ram and a gf3ti200.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 04, 2004, 09:18:45 am
what's the unit cap in Rome TW, bytheway?  I've had an army of something like 1200 max so far, but i'm very early into the game.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: kode on October 04, 2004, 09:25:18 am
Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
what's the unit cap in Rome TW, bytheway?  I've had an army of something like 1200 max so far, but i'm very early into the game.


depends on your settings, I think. not entirely sure, though, but my friend said it was something like that in shogun, IIRC.

gotta get that game too :(
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 04, 2004, 01:54:50 pm
Very rarely do I feel sorry for my vanquished foes, but there are always exceptions.

Imagine the scene... a massive army (mine) baring down on you... the gates burst open in second.  So you grab your swords, and prepare to fight to the death to repel the assault at the chokepoint of the gates........

and out come 180 snarling rottweilers at you.
(http://www.aldo14.f2s.com/temp/woof.jpg)
Needless to say, they ran like hell.  And once the dogs had finished with them, they ran into the enemt general in the square, and killed him.

I love this game.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Blue Lion on October 04, 2004, 06:41:39 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
They're French. What did you expect?


I expected them to run away, not at me thinking they could walk on water.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: karajorma on October 04, 2004, 06:51:30 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Imagine the scene... a massive army (mine) baring down on you... the gates burst open in second.  So you grab your swords, and prepare to fight to the death to repel the assault at the chokepoint of the gates........ and out come 180 snarling rottweilers at you.


:D

I don't feel that sorry for them to be honest. I usually arrange things so that they start the war off. Then I look like the injured party when my diplomats are trying to make alliances rather than looking like an untrustworthy backstabbing bastard.

I'm playing the full campaign finally and I left one of my cities virtually unguarded for a little while to see if I could tempt the gauls into attacking me. Sure enough they were stupid enough to besige the city although they ran away when they suddenly saw a a huge army march straight towards the city to kick the crap out of the backstabbing bastards :D
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: kode on October 05, 2004, 06:38:10 pm
ah well... I've given the greeks what they deserved now. along with carthage. and the spanish too, as "innocent" bystanders.

now I'm gonna take care of the backstabbing numidians. ah, they'll pay for sieging my city. and then my former allies, the egyptians, will feel the wrath because they attacked my other allies.

halfway to the throne. ;)
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 06, 2004, 03:38:48 am
I've discover war-dogs are shockingly useful for killing effy-lumps, in my horribly one-sided capture of Carthage.  Slow at it, though.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Fear on October 06, 2004, 07:26:26 am
am i missing something? can i build and recruit without an goverment inside the vilage\city?
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 06, 2004, 07:41:56 am
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Originally posted by Fear
am i missing something? can i build and recruit without an goverment inside the vilage\city?


It depends on your auto-management settings, I think.  You can, however, get your general to hire local mercenaries when he is outside a city (right click on his head icon, IIRC).

Normally my army has a general of some sort anyways, so it's heasy to move him in, build a few units, then move out as they're queued.  Albeit it is annoying that i only have one city that can recruit archers and a coupe who can build legionnaire cavalry.  That and my 8-star general faction head died of old age.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Grug on October 07, 2004, 03:31:30 am
Muhahah I love this game.

Carthage is mine, Sparta is mine, after I finish of the pitiful gauls I'm going to take the damn Spanish out. They are as annoying as they were in Medievil Total War.
They had these massive fleets hindering any blockade missions I had from the Senate. How the tables have turned!
Turns out an entire fleet of Quintrimines scares the poor itty bitty spanish. Mwuhahahha!

As for the Game Engine, it runs better than Medievil Total War did! :o Plus it looks a thousand times better.

Favourite battle so far: My army of <250 Julli Romans holding fort against an army of over 1000+ Gauls! :D A few histati to hold the line and a couple of equilites to guard the flanks. I swear to God, I thought I was going to lose, my goal was to kill as many of them before I died, yet I won! I Won! Ahahhaha!

Now that the Marius Reform has occured, my new armies are undefeatable once more!

In summary:
-Wardogs rock
-Incenadary Pigs are funny
-The trait Bloody incures some rather hilarious speeches
-Spain is a mongrel
-Spartans are the best unit in the game! :D
(try a custom battle with a handfull of spartans as one army)
(have to use missile units to kill em off with efficiency)

Oh and...

"FOR ROME!" :D

-I love Rome Total War ~Grug
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: karajorma on October 07, 2004, 05:54:19 pm
I think my best battle to date was taking on a 3000 odd strong pair of gaul armies with a 2000 strong roman army. I kept thinking I was f**ked but the idiots didn't rush me which gave me plenty of time to turn them into flaming pin cushions :D

3000 came to fight. 38 left :D

I've got the gauls completely on the ropes now and once they're gone it's probably the germans next since they are allies of the gauls and I don't like the way they've been marching around.

BTW anyone know how back stabing the Brits and Dacians are? I'm allied with both and I'm wondering how smart an idea it is to leave them alone.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: 01010 on October 07, 2004, 05:59:46 pm
I picked this up in the shop on sunday but decided against. I am feeling like I made a very, very bad decision. What to do, Fable is out on friday and I *really* want that bad, I now also want this bad.

Both is possible but not desirable. God damn you whoever decides the release schedules.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 07, 2004, 06:27:04 pm
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Originally posted by 01010
I picked this up in the shop on sunday but decided against. I am feeling like I made a very, very bad decision.


You did.  I was just invading a small settlement with a big cheesy grin from watching the masses of troops march through, replete with the big 'clump-clump' marching noises and dust clouds.  

And then trapping and encircling an ambushing Gallic army, feinting them with a unit of cavalry and light infantry before crushing them with a flanking attack.....

genius.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: karajorma on October 07, 2004, 06:30:45 pm
Don't know if you've played M:TW but this blows it away (and M:TW was voted the best RTS game ever several years running!)

The only thing bad I can really say about it is that it has a habit of sucking in all your free time :)
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 07, 2004, 07:14:25 pm
I've never player the other TW games, and I'm not even a pariticularly massive fan of RTS', but Rome stands out by a clear mile as my best game of the year.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Blue Lion on October 07, 2004, 07:34:12 pm
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Originally posted by karajorma

BTW anyone know how back stabing the Brits and Dacians are? I'm allied with both and I'm wondering how smart an idea it is to leave them alone.


If you've cornered off the Brits by taking the Gauls, they'll probably come after you soon. They're pushovers though, just use cavalry mainly.  The Dacians should be kept idle with the eastern side. I'd crush the Brits first.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: karajorma on November 02, 2004, 04:03:26 pm
Well the brits are history. I tried to be nice. They had a huge army parked outside Samarobriva which had been taken over by the Germans. They sat there for 8 years or so doing nothing. They even sat there when I drew up an equally large army and offered to help them attack the germans.

So I took the city myself and that round they attacked me. So I bought them off and used their turncoat general to invade Britain :D

As for the Dacians they were enslaved in less than a year after the Brutii attacked them. Enslaved by me. I got the Brutii to do all the hard work and then just marched in and too the cities over :D
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Knight Templar on November 02, 2004, 04:54:49 pm
Whee, I played this game to death in the last month.

Won with Bruteii, 93 territories. Kind of dissappointed by the ending though.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Stunaep on November 03, 2004, 03:31:00 am
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Originally posted by karajorma
I think my best battle to date was taking on a 3000 odd strong pair of gaul armies with a 2000 strong roman army. I kept thinking I was f**ked but the idiots didn't rush me which gave me plenty of time to turn them into flaming pin cushions :D

3000 came to fight. 38 left :D

I've got the gauls completely on the ropes now and once they're gone it's probably the germans next since they are allies of the gauls and I don't like the way they've been marching around.

BTW anyone know how back stabing the Brits and Dacians are? I'm allied with both and I'm wondering how smart an idea it is to leave them alone.


I just successfully defended my city with about 1200 troops against a 3000 army of Gauls.  They had about 8 battering rams, but they only charged from about three openings in the walls, so while my Triari and spearmen held 'em stuck in those small holes, my cavalry exited the city through the other openings and charged right into the back of the lot. Poof, instant chaos.
Title: Rome: Total War!
Post by: Knight Templar on November 03, 2004, 04:50:07 am
Indeed. Barbarian nations' armies turn to liquid **** when you attack them from their flanks too. Once one unit runs, they all fall apart.

Playing as Britannia sucks.