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Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: aldo_14 on October 06, 2004, 04:20:57 pm
Surprised it's not been posted yet.
Report concludes no WMD in Iraq (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3718150.stm)
Report confirms Iraq fears - PM (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3719522.stm) :wtf:
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: ionia23 on October 06, 2004, 04:27:31 pm
This does not come as a surprise at all and has been widely known for a long time.  At least now it's official.

"one more month, one more month"
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Ghostavo on October 06, 2004, 04:32:03 pm
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"We know Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. We know he used weapons of mass destruction," Dr Saleh said, adding that in his view Saddam Hussein was himself a weapon of mass destruction.


:eek2: :wtf:
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: vyper on October 06, 2004, 04:34:16 pm
Spin baby spiiin!
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Rictor on October 06, 2004, 04:35:41 pm
I'm flabbergasted Mr.Duckman!
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: aldo_14 on October 06, 2004, 04:41:54 pm
"You people forget -  Saddam both had and used WMD against our troops in the recent war.

 Clearly, he had developed the power to control the sand, and mustered an aerial sand 'storm' against our troops.

 Thus, allowing Saddam in control of a desert full of sand, was an intolerable risk"
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Rictor on October 06, 2004, 04:45:05 pm
a system akin to The Mummy perhaps?
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: aldo_14 on October 06, 2004, 04:49:26 pm
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Originally posted by Rictor
a system akin to The Mummy perhaps?


Yes.  Exactly - in colluding with, er, evil nazis and Osama bin Ladins' turban, Saddam was able resurrect the evil lord Imhotep and use him to hold hostage millions of barrels of American oil.

The dastard.
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: ionia23 on October 06, 2004, 04:50:12 pm
Bush had an agenda.  200 billion dollars and 50,000+ lives later.....

Hate him.  Hate.
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Ford Prefect on October 06, 2004, 04:54:18 pm
Holy Christmas, Tony Blair looks like hell.
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: aldo_14 on October 06, 2004, 05:04:47 pm
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40150000/jpg/_40150298_blairhands_203.jpg)
He looks like he's just had a rocket stuck up his arse

Ah!  So that's where they went!
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: MatthewPapa on October 06, 2004, 05:56:22 pm
Why must all theads be turned into Bush bashing threads? Its tearing our community in half...
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Rictor on October 06, 2004, 06:00:57 pm
no one is bashing bush...well ok, not really.

the thread is more or less information that everyone knows already, so  we'll all just comment on how stupid it was to think Saddam had WMD (which I admit included myself, and lauching a war because of it.

And anyway, we're giving Blair equal bashing time :):)
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Mongoose on October 06, 2004, 06:21:40 pm
So, has anyone bothered to ask where the WMDs we knew that Saddam had in the past went?  To Syria, perhaps?  No, let's bash Bush some more instead; it's much more fun :rolleyes:.

Yeah Ionia, one more month until ol' long face goes home crying to the ketchup goddess :D.
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: aldo_14 on October 06, 2004, 06:25:08 pm
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Originally posted by Mongoose
So, has anyone bothered to ask where the WMDs we knew that Saddam had in the past went?  To Syria, perhaps?  No, let's bash Bush some more instead; it's much more fun :rolleyes:.

Yeah Ionia, one more month until ol' long face goes home crying to the ketchup goddess :D.


Destroyed, perhaps?  you might think it's out of the question, but that's been the Iraqi position all along (excluding the defector to Jordan in 1995 who revealed details of both WMD programs and their subsequent destruction).  There's the interesting possibility that the Iraqis destroyed them themselves simply because to do so on camera in front of the UN inspectors was humiliating.
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 06, 2004, 06:25:36 pm
Or destroyed by the UN Inspectors. That was their job for, what, 10 years or so?
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Rictor on October 06, 2004, 06:49:35 pm
yes, until they were ordered to leave, to clear the way for Clinton's new round of bombings.

when will people simply admit there were no WMD??
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: aldo_14 on October 06, 2004, 06:59:44 pm
There were WMD programmes initially - the precursor to UNMOVIC, UNSCOM discovered and destroyed equipment for making nuclear weapons during their inspections (calutrons, IIRC).   In the years 1991-98 they didn't discover any Iraqi WMD at hidden (undeclared sites).  They were, however, withdrawn as a result of Iraqi obstruction (denial of access, and helicopter overflights of sites to block U2 observation being examples).  

To be fair, part of the Iraqi grievance was that the likes of the US, etc, had been using them (through bugging, etc) as an intelligence/espionage channel.
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Rictor on October 06, 2004, 07:15:00 pm
which you doubt?
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: ionia23 on October 06, 2004, 11:57:08 pm
There weren't any in any real deliverable amount when we invaded recently.  It was a smokescreen for "He Tried To Kill My Daddy".

I ain't stupid enough to think for two seconds George Bush gives two flying ****s in a henhouse about the Iraqis.  This is something personal.  

Removing Hussein: 200 billion dollars
Removing Hitler: (figures, please?)
Removing Bush: Priceless
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: IPAndrews on October 07, 2004, 03:07:15 am
No WMD? What about Iraq's desolator troops? You know, the ones who go into enemy territory and poison the land with radioactive contamination. I'd call those a WMD.
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: aldo_14 on October 07, 2004, 03:52:53 am
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Originally posted by Rictor
which you doubt?


All.  I would find it odd if Iraq did destroy all its WMD, but I can't see any nation (i.e. Syria) accepting them, and in the absence of any known / proven terrorist links, it actually seems as likely they destroyed them as anything else.

Possibly Saddam was paranoid someone would use WMD on him in a coup or something, I don't know.  Maybe they destroyed them and never told him.  Maybe they couldn't afford to keep them (with the inevitable US action if they used them), but wanted to preserve pride.  I don't know... but it's becoming obvious to me that UNMOVIC should have been left to finish their job rather than have a war.
Title: Report concludes no WMD in Iraq
Post by: Turnsky on October 07, 2004, 05:08:14 am
only one thing to say to that...


"DUH!"