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Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: redmenace on November 03, 2004, 09:19:04 pm
Attorney General John Ashcroft 'plans to submit his resignation to Bush in the next several days'...
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Kazan on November 03, 2004, 09:20:07 pm
source please
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Knight Templar on November 03, 2004, 09:21:35 pm
Indeed. You should know to post a link in this sort of situation. :p
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: redmenace on November 03, 2004, 09:26:36 pm
It is The Drudge Report, which many consider to be a gossip rag. But I think this might be true because of the severe stress he is under. I am sure his marriage has suffered over the past 4 years.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Rictor on November 03, 2004, 09:27:26 pm
But...but...he can't quit!

They're called the Blues Brothers for a reason. Its no good if there's just one of them, God needs both of them to do his work.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Liberator on November 03, 2004, 09:58:24 pm
Traditionally, the entire Cabinet submits their resignation at the end of a term and then the President is free to hire back the ones he wants/needs or to get new Cabinet members.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Ford Prefect on November 03, 2004, 10:43:51 pm
This is terrible. Who's going be there to cover up the private parts on all those neoclassical sculptures?
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: aldo_14 on November 04, 2004, 07:26:59 am
Or protect the right of terrorists to buy guns?
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Styxx on November 04, 2004, 07:56:02 am
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Originally posted by Liberator
Traditionally, the entire Cabinet submits their resignation at the end of a term and then the President is free to hire back the ones he wants/needs or to get new Cabinet members.


Yeah, I saw that happen on The West Wing. :p
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: vyper on November 04, 2004, 10:42:57 am
It just shows that natural selection loves freedom. :lol:
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Galemp on November 04, 2004, 12:10:58 pm
Google News: Ashcroft (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=ashcroft&btnG=Search+News)

Good riddance. Seems like Tom Ridge and General Powell are leaving, too. I wish their boss would take a hint and follow suit.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: redmenace on November 09, 2004, 07:55:44 pm
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041110/D868LKV00.html
Just to make it official
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Angel Warlord on November 09, 2004, 09:29:31 pm
Im not in the least bit surprised. Its common for 1st term cabinet members to resign after the first term due to health problems, stress of the job, desire to return to a normal life, etc. Dont look at it like a trend or anything, just a common occurance.

Side note: Their resignation is totally ceremonial. They cannot go unless the president releases them. They dont really resign per say, they just inform the president of their desire to no longer serve in their position and the president will most likely release them.

Drudge Report is not a rag blog site as some of you may think. Its a reference point which posts all of the important headlines as they come and posts links to the sites of origin. To say its a far-right wing fringe extremist bigot homophobic propaganda center would be calling every news organization it links to the same thing. If you have never heard of it its www.drudgereport.com (www.drudgereport.com)
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Bobboau on November 09, 2004, 11:10:54 pm
I consiter it to be a highly unreliable source of potential news, it has had a few realy good scoops but for every hit there are a thousand misses.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: aldo_14 on November 10, 2004, 03:44:22 am
The only real use of the drdge report is letting you know what headlines to look out for on proper, reliable new sites.  It's not about what that site includes, but about what it omits.

For example; headline is "COURT RULES BELGIUM'S LARGEST POLITICAL PARTY 'RACIST'... "

In the linked Yahoo article, it reveals that the phrase 'Belgium's largest party' is a quote from a member of the party, a far-right group wishing for Flanders to secede.  If you go to the BBC article - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3994867.stm - covering the same news, you can see a more accurate summary Recent opinion polls suggest the Vlaams Blok is the most popular party in the Dutch-speaking region of Flanders.

So you go from one headline suggesting the government of Belgium has been outlawed as racist, to the actual truth.  And what is really interesting, is that the Yahoo article is somewhat ambiguous over the size of the party, but the bbc one is very clear.  And you;d expect any competent person to want to check out the size of the part before writing a headline like that.

One misleading headline, linked to a slightly ambigous story - and it totally spins the actual truth of the story.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Knight Templar on November 11, 2004, 02:31:08 pm
Well, it's great that half of the 'important' cabinet members are leaving, but I'm concerned as to who is going to replace them...
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Liberator on November 11, 2004, 03:16:34 pm
He's already replaced Ashcroft.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: redmenace on November 11, 2004, 05:04:13 pm
on a positive note about ashcroft and the justice dept., they have been pursuing the enron cases with out passion or prejudice.
example: http://www.click2houston.com/money/3906825/detail.html
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Knight Templar on November 11, 2004, 08:47:13 pm
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Originally posted by Liberator
He's already replaced Ashcroft.


Who has?
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: redmenace on November 11, 2004, 08:52:47 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20041111/cm_usatoday/ashcroftsuccessorcanshedthelightningrod
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Corsair on November 11, 2004, 08:53:27 pm
Bush, with Alberto Gonzales, a pretty conservative dude he appointed to the Texas Supreme Court during his time as governor.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Bobboau on November 11, 2004, 09:00:55 pm
eh, he's not _that_ bad, especaly consitering the act he followed
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Knight Templar on November 11, 2004, 09:01:37 pm
Sounds as bad to me, just with added [glow=orange]~!!!~MEXICAN FLAVOR~!!!~[/glow][/size]
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Bobboau on November 11, 2004, 09:03:25 pm
well the conservitives are all spasing out at the thought of him getting apointed, wich I take as a good sign.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Corsair on November 11, 2004, 09:06:23 pm
He's more conservative than some of the other guys they were supposedly thinking of but not as right-wing as Ashcroft.
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Rictor on November 11, 2004, 09:10:24 pm
the thing with Ashcroft was, is, he's a Bible Thumper extrordinare. He's even more of a Christian fundamentalist than Bush.

Somehow I doubt he'll do anything to challenge things liike the illegal detentions at Gitmo, PATRIOT etc...
Title: Ashcroft to Resign
Post by: Knight Templar on November 11, 2004, 09:13:07 pm
Of course all the conservatives are "****ting themselves" in public over it. That way it looks like Bushy is appealing to the liberal supporters in the country by bringing in someone who then appears to not to be one of them.