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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: stithe2000 on November 04, 2004, 07:51:12 pm
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First off.... Please excuse me for posting in your part of the forums... I am part of TPB team, but I am spinning off my own mod.. It is a pretty bold mod, and will bring a very good twist to the FS2 modding community.... It is called FreeSpace 2 Universes: When Universes Collide. It is an extreme what if mod that brings all of the major mods together... Star Trek, Star Wars, B5, FS2, Battlestar Galatica, and many more will be attempted to be seen in this mod... It is in it's infant stages right now, but I have a few pix to show the insane fun I am offering...
(http://members.cox.net/raurther/CloseUp0.jpg)
(http://members.cox.net/raurther/Teaser00.jpg)
(http://members.cox.net/raurther/ingamebattles02.jpg)
The klingon brid of prey is brand new, and I made her myself... She has 5 LODs, 3k+ poly on LOD0, and is stable... Have all shine, glow, and detailed textures... She even has here own effects and AI.... I have her very close to movie/ series quality.... I would like to help you with your models... To help bring them to movie like quality... I am also working with TBP crew, and will be sharing my time equally amongst mods... I hope your team would be interested in helping to bring this mod to life! I am going to be getting web support in bout 4 months... This project is at it's infant stages.... Thanx for your time in advance! Stithe2000
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lol wrong forum
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Actually.. No... This is the FS2 upgrade project right? I am upgrading all the ships to very high definition models, and textures! Is that some of things that this project does? If not, then yes... Wrong forum! However, wanted to help with upgrading the models to help you in this project since it was going to be done in Universes... FreeSpace 2 is the base line of the story anyway!
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that mod soundsgreat hurry up and make it. :)
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Thx! I am trying to get it done as fast as humanly possible... Just need help is all! :P
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Possibly the wrong forum, but what the hey...
You want to make high poly versions of the ships? :yes:
Show us how the Serapis should look, and I'll worship you. :D
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hehehe! I could, but it would be 1k poly count... For in order to make it look good I would have to honor the partly organic look the Vasudans have... However.... It can be done! :D
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Uh oh. The mod sounds extremely...Iffy. Something vs. Something crossovers aren't exactly bad news, but this sounds like Something vs. Something vs. Something vs. Something vs. Something. Maybe do crossovers with 2 things at a time instead? Like FS + B5, or FS + ST?
Well, either way, if you can get it to work out smoothly, that would be a Sci-Fi dream-come-true.
Just make sure the shivans pwn everyone. EVERYONE. ;) :D
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Originally posted by stithe2000
hehehe! I could, but it would be 1k poly count... For in order to make it look good I would have to honor the partly organic look the Vasudans have... However.... It can be done! :D
I don't care about poly count :p My rig can handle it! :D
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do you have any good story for this?
(if not, i think i may have a good one lying about somewhere)
What kind of missions are you planning?
What side are we playing? The GTVA? or one of the other universes?
Do the Shivans pwn everyone?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, but this just sounds awesome. What kind of help do you need? I can help with minor (note: minor, not too much) Fredding if you like :D
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Singh:
Yes.... I do have a story line.... Here it is in a nut shell.... It picks up bout 9 years after the Capella incident with the Shivans at the end of the original FS2... The 1st 5 to 7 missions will consist of the building of a new knossos gate... Those missions will refamiliarize people on how to fly, and fight... It will also cover what has happened in the last 9 years... Such as, problems with resources, piracy, and renegade forces...
When the switch is thrown for the knossos gate to activate, it worx only for a split second, then explodes... The Vasudan Captain who was there when the original knossos was destroyed recalls his comments of loss of info, and the response of we have enough information, as he witnesses the destruction of the 2nd gate... From the explosion 3 rifts form... Each goes to the major universes... B5, Star Wars, Star Trek.... As time goes on other rifts form between the major rifts to stabalize the area, but they also open gate ways to other univereses! That is the time table for FS2...
Star Wars Universe.... It is in the middle of the Battle of Endor... The shield for the Death Star is still up, and the fighting is intense.... Out of the blue... 2 borg cubes pop in.... :D I will tell you more of the line later! That is the time area where star wars!
Star Trek: It is aftre the movie 1st Contact, and after Voyager returns to Federation space... Way before Nemesis... A lot of sub-space interference has been detected on the far edge of the quadrant, and reports of the klingons engaging an unknown force....
B5: It is right after Earth has been taken, and the ISA is young... Sherridan is still on B5, and the Centauri have not been indicated as the hostile forces attacking the transport lines... Reports of large strange triangular ships have been sighted in Centauri Space...
That is the basic time line... However.... It is a huge what if mod that will be ever attempted.... SO... If you have a good story line... throw it in there... I would like it where almost every descision, and outcome of a mission will play where the story goes... Our imagination is our limit... The hardest part... Is finding help: Writers, Mission Designers, Effects artists, modelers, texturers, beta testers, animation designers, and SCP support... And yes... The Shivans are in this, and they do not like outsiders in their Universe! Lets just say that they turn their attention away from the GTVA, and focus on the Empire, and the Borg! Alliances will be formed, and broken... And a Darth Vader will become Anikan on his own to find his son, and rescue him from the Borg.... This will be a fun project if we get enough people on, for if we have enough we can knock out the basics first (which is the hardest part), and then have some real fun with mission designing, and seeing our stories come to life!
Also.... Feel free to ask as many questions you like, for that is the onyly way of getting started is asking the right question, and then working on finding the answer!
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Lastly... Before I forget to answer the last question... What sides will be played... The player will have a chance to play all major Universes sides to see the entire sotry in all dimensions... From Klingon, Terran, Vasudan, Federation, Rebellion, The Empire, etc! As I said... Imagination is our limit!
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Imagination and slave labor. Who'll fred all of these?! :p
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I am doing the main line, and whoever can help tweak them as it progresses... as for the if/then outcome line missions... if you see a good what if scenario then we will grow with it... I am asking anyone and everyone who has ideas to play with the ideas, and fred! Also to best answer the question.. Play it by ear, for it is in the infant stages!
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Just trying to process this all is giving me a migrane.
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http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,27685.0.html
http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73079
Here are other forums where I have posted my idea!
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He sure does not lack enthusiasm...
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LMAO!
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Since I came here in 2001 (As Star Dragon)...
The Nexus Chronicles (may or may not still be in skippy's FS2 Campaign Database) All universes at war...
But I am glad great minds DO think alike...
Expect me to come hunt you down in one thread (site) as I will not reply to each of your threads ;D . I think we could bounce ideas around, if you are interested? (have you read my fanfiction on Spacebattles.com)
http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42590&highlight=nexus
I started writing it down like a year after I got to HLP
If you don't mind finishing off models or fixing geometry errors I have a few thousand models you should look at (none are mine, I do not model)...
One of my favorite screens of all time 5 good universes against 5 evil universes (was the backdrop for Steak's Birthday render before he left the FIRST time!) :D
Who remembers this picture?
(http://img131.exs.cx/img131/5405/Parkingsa*****.jpg)
Robotech vs The Empire, vs Babylon 5, vs The Borg, vs FS2 Custom ships...
l8tr!
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I can use all the help I can get! What ideas do you have in mind... Any models I get I take a look at... Fix, update, or even redo with love! Here is my latest...
http://members.cox.net/raurther/f-galaxy-a.jpg
My latest render.... No Texture or anything... Currently at 2.4k poly, and estimate it will be 4k+ poly count with 5 stable LODs.... I have not seen any good Galaxy Classes out there worth just converting to straight pof... Thoughts anyone?
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I have just made a new post on some SCP ideas.... Has anyone else tapped on these ideas, and if so, have you heard anything that might be out soon on these ideas?
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,27772.0.html
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Well, if the story were to start from the FS2 universe I'd suggest somthing along the lines of this (although your idea is pretty good as well):
The Knossos portal under construction in Delta Serpentis, but this isn't where the problem arises. If we take a cue from the original theory that the Shivans were actually trying to protect subspace, and then project it to thefact that the GTVA is actually causing severe damage to it via subspace usage, then the most likely place for a tear to occur would be at the heaviest usage point. This would most likely be with Delta Serpentis and any other system, as civvy traffic would be greatest around there.
Now, remember in Trek exactly the same problem was occuring? The subspace tearing and what-not?
Now....the Knossos prepares to go online for the first time, bringing access to the Earth system via subspace.
At the same time, in a universe totally different, the Enterprise E is called to a medical emergency to a system some light-years from Earth. At the time, its near Earth, the lagrange point between the Moon and the earth to be precise. its docked in for some repairs. Captain Picard decides to engage full warp to the system, not wasting time. As the warp field initiates, it reaches accross subspace, damaging the already badly-hit fabric even more.
Then, somewhere else, the Rebellion fights the empire at Endor with a vast fleet of spaceships at there disposal. But they go up against the Death star. Little do they know the power source of the Death Star has direct links to a layer beyond normal space, something that is only known to a handfull of people....and the destroyers.
As the death star opens fire, the Enterprise engages warp and the B5 universe does , the Knossos portal finally comes online.
The GTVA sends a destroyer, the GTD Aquitaine through the portal to make contact with Earth on the other side. But it emerges into a very strange Earth, with vast blue seas and silver ships orbiting it; ships with saucers and pods to either side.
The Enterprise engages warp and slips through at several times the speed of light, but the flash that accompanies its departure into warp is odd, and the normal streaking stars during warp travel is absent, only to be replaced by what appears to be the rotating blue surroundings of a subspace tunnel. At the end of the tunnel, they emerge right back where they started: at Earth....but it is a far stranger Earth than the one they left it (read: B5)
When the Death star fires its first volley, it falls far short of any ship - instead vanishing in a bright blue flash and an open vortex.
Back in the GTVA, something strange is going on. The subspace Vortex generated by a ship as it passes through doesn't close at all. Instead, it remains constantly open.
then the Knossos device fails and self-destructs from the sheer energy pouring out. But the vortex continues to remain open. Slowly, the personnel gathered watch in horror as new Vortexes open up in front of them, and then remaining open. Out of each appears......Shivans.
But the Shivans are not interested in the terrans gathered, instead, they head from each portal towards the central one, first pouring in in pairs and singles, then ranging to the dozens, and then the hundreds. Every single class of Shivan craft - and some new ones - starts pouring through the new node. The GTVA then decides to send a probe through the node. It lasts just long enough to transmit an image of several more nodes inside the larger one, with Shivans heading through each.
It also sees a strange craft emerging from one of the nodes, an airplane looking much like a hammerhead, with a turret underneath the nose and another on its back. The plane is immediately followed by several black ships, all of which are trying to hit it. However, the black ships are stopped as the shivans engage them, pushing them back into the node they came from.
In each universe, Shivans appear, attacking everything and attempting to secure the area around the breaches. Of course, the universes fight back against the Shivans, but new breaches appear - allowing craft to move from each to the other. Now, in subspace, Borg craft appear to engage the Shivans. both craft being massively armed, and just generally massive, a fire-fight occurs, only to be interrupted as the SSD come through, opening fire on anything. Its immediately ripped to shreds by beams from a Vorlon vessel coming through another universe which in turn is hit by yet another ship from somewhere else.
Of course, our story is not here. Its with a pilot that are present in each universe (one per universe). Each is newly recruited to their respective forces, and each must find each other in the hell that has decended on their worlds, in order to bring things back to order - fighting the Shivans and even each other in the process!
But a larger secret lurks beneath the surface...one discovered by an old Admiral...one that was responsible for the suffering of millions. Nobody listened to him, but he was right....and now, the heroes might just end up destroying all the universes, instead of saving it!!
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Sounds lame, i know...but better than nothing.
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Not really, Singh...where do I sign up?
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Actually... I kinda like it... I am still going to stick with the knossos exploding when it is first lit off, BUT I think using the heavy sub-space effect is a good twist... However, I still want to keep the some general areas of the story the same such as sub-space vortexes being taken advantage of by the borg... I agree the shivans are going to react, and not be entirely interested in the GTVA, but more so towards other species entering THEIR galaxy! I like on how you brought that up by the way... I the Vorlons in fact all B5 1st ones will not be seen until much later in the story.. The reason being the time frame in which introduce the B5 universe is way after the shadow war has ended... Another good idea is that 3rd space species may try to use the disrupted space to invade all universes like the borg ships! So the Shivans would be very much interested in defeating all them... Another thing that needs to be thought of of... Admiral Bosch from the FS2 story line... Does he build a rapport of communication between the GTVA and the Shivans... There is a lot of what ifs and things to be looked at, and thought out... I would like to soon to start building basic ideal stories for the beginning missions... I am going to try to get a Universes forum up soon, and perhaps we can start pooling our thoughts, and stories to get this kicked off!!! Singh! I like the way your are brain storming! Keep it coming!
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
Not really, Singh...where do I sign up?
Hey! Here soon hopefully I will have a forum up and I can get some people to help with the story lines.... Keep them coming, and lets see what fun we can make!
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I was not going to eventhink of adding FS into my fic by Stithe just gave me a brainstorm...
Hey Stithe, if you got Yahoo or trillian add me, Getter_Robo_G (yahoo), Stardragon1 (MSN), 5256653 (ICQ).. You probably wont use all my storyline but there are some parts you might like (especially if you haven't read my fanfiction yet.)
The basic idea has been floating in my head for a while but now it's been comming together more and more...
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OK! It is official.... I have our own private forums up, and running! www.stithe.com... Lets kick this thing off! :)
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Although the Stargate mod is at a standstill right now, I'm sure once we got going we wouldn't mind playing a part in this. X/BC-303 Prometheus vs. a Star Destroyer. Sounds fun.
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NOOOOO! how can you leave out the greatest BadGuys ever to roam the sci-fi section! ( ;) )
the Beast! we MUST have the Beast!
BEAST!!!!
BEEEAASSSTTT!!!!!
the beast must be there! i mean, they can totally subvert a planet in a matter of minutes, at most!
:D beast! please!
besdies, id love to see some infected shivan ships. *drools at the thought of 80 infected sathanass...*
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Or not.
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hehehe! go to my forums, and make request so all of our guys can figure out ways to add these sci-fi monsters! www.stithe.com
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What is "The Beast" any hoo? Anyone have any pictures, and what universe is she from... HIt my forums to help with this radical idea!
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*freezes* you... dont... know... the BEAST???
the beast is an infection. it fires beams at ships/planets/anything, and that infection just plows through anything, and when it hits organic matter, it subverts it, quite literally shredding and rending your body while yours still alive, then mutationg that shredded mass of gore that WAS your body into living membrane that will just kinda... sit there and become one with the ship and any other membrane there. then, you become one of the Beast. forever. you dont die. even if 'your' membrane is destroyed, you live on in teh consiousness of the beast. ill C&P this over in yer forums for reference.
the beast pwn shivans quick. onen shot, about 30 seconds, and an entire sathanas is subverted, and all those shivans inside become icky membrane :)
did i mention this beam can, after it is fired, jump across a vacuume? :devil:
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I still disagree that you stay alive, btw...;)
BTW, there are ways to prevent infection (venting plasma through infected areas on Capital ships). IIRC, most ships were relatively immune to the infection at the end of Cataclysm (mentioned, I think, in the Final Cutscene thingy).
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hmmm.... BUT... it would be an interesting twist... The beast trying to assimilate the borg while the borg is trying to assimilate it!..... hmmmmm... The possibilities... Thoughts anyone?
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(http://members.cox.net/raurther/Wachabe-Progress.jpg)
The Picture is huge, so here is the link!
The new GTVA Wachabe... Sporting Meson Projectile system, Maxim Close in Weapon System, and anti-matter beams.... (http://stithe.bobzilla.us/core/html/emoticons/Smiley-Cool.gif)
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Originally posted by stithe2000
(http://members.cox.net/raurther/Wachabe-Progress.jpg)
The Picture is huge, so here is the link!
The new GTVA Wachabe... Sporting Meson Projectile system, Maxim Close in Weapon System, and anti-matter beams.... (http://stithe.bobzilla.us/core/html/emoticons/Smiley-Cool.gif)
Reminds me of the Lucifer. Nice.
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(http://members.cox.net/raurther/Wachabe-Ingame.jpg) Very first successful screen shot of the new GTVA Wachabe! B)
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It's... purple. And... green.
I hope it isn't supposed to be the size of a jug' cuz those turrets are huge. The model itself is fairly interesting. I can see it being hybrid TV, although I wouldn't want it :p
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The GTVA Wachabe Battleship in action... LOD0 beta will be released soon for testing!
(http://members.cox.net/raurther/Wachabe-Action00.jpg)
(http://members.cox.net/raurther/Wachabe-Action01.jpg)
(http://members.cox.net/raurther/Wachabe-Action02.jpg)
(http://members.cox.net/raurther/Wachabe-Action03.jpg)
(http://members.cox.net/raurther/Wachabe-Action04.jpg)
She now has 47 total turrets, and has a complete custom shield that is 2.5k poly.... She sports the Meson Projectile System, Maxim CIWS, Heavy Flak, AAAF beams, BGreen Beams, and TerSlash... She is a very balanced ship... She still has a few minor issues that still need to be hammered out geometry wise, but for the most part she is playable. More on her as things develope!