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Community Projects => The FreeSpace Upgrade Project => Topic started by: Galemp on November 07, 2004, 11:19:41 pm

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Post by: Galemp on November 07, 2004, 11:19:41 pm: Something quick, since the official mapping was easy to follow. Still needs turrets.
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Post by: Cabbie on November 07, 2004, 11:28:09 pm: NICE!!! Looking good!!!
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Post by: Black Wolf on November 07, 2004, 11:45:17 pm: Rear black things should be bumped out tather than recessed, but otherwise, tis brilliant. :yes2:
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Post by: Liberator on November 07, 2004, 11:52:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Black Wolf
Rear black things should be bumped out tather than recessed, but otherwise, tis brilliant. :yes2:

They're not black, they're bare metal, but otherwise :nod:

Very nice BTW.
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Post by: Bobboau on November 07, 2004, 11:59:46 pm: oh...
nice :nod:
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on November 08, 2004, 12:05:14 am: Man, they're just popping out of the woodwork now!
*Expects someone to show-off a hi-poly Sath at any moment* :nervous:
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Post by: Liberator on November 08, 2004, 12:09:11 am: Quote
Originally posted by Black Wolf
Rear black things should be bumped out tather than recessed, but otherwise, tis brilliant. :yes2:

They're not black, they're bare metal, but otherwise :nod:

Very nice BTW.
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Post by: Sandwich on November 08, 2004, 12:20:14 am: Whoa. Are you planning to give that mapping as well?
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Post by: Galemp on November 08, 2004, 12:32:39 am: *braces himself against the shower of bukakke-like praise from the community*
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Post by: Sandwich on November 08, 2004, 12:36:32 am: Jerk. You just totally eradicated any hope I might have had at producing a hi-poly version of ANYthing.

;)
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Post by: Knight Templar on November 08, 2004, 12:51:03 am: Meh, it's okay.
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Post by: Black Wolf on November 08, 2004, 12:51:38 am: Err... OK, yes, that kicks arse, but I'm not 100% sure it's going to work exactly... what's the PCount?
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Post by: Bobboau on November 08, 2004, 12:53:55 am: that last one was just a bump map.
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Post by: Liberator on November 08, 2004, 01:02:36 am: :nod:
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Post by: FireCrack on November 08, 2004, 01:05:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
Man, they're just popping out of the woodwork now!
*Expects someone to show-off a hi-poly Sath at any moment* :nervous:

Just wait a bit more...
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Post by: NGTM-1R on November 08, 2004, 01:37:08 am: A hi-poly Sathanas would eat my computer alive. Particularly when I try to play JAD.

As to the Aten: w00tness.
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Post by: Flaser on November 08, 2004, 02:06:03 am: Holy Makrellla!

Bob, when can we expect bumpmapping in SCP?
(I'm not rushing, demanding or begging... maybe I should be begging for things, I merly want to know your plans, since so far you're the number 1 graphic engine guru).
BTW no.2 - you wrote about tweaking with shaders - what the status on those?

PS.: thanks for all the work you've done so far, and this new garmada of HTL ships is wootage!
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Post by: Galemp on November 08, 2004, 02:35:57 am: It's done... but I'll be damned if I'm putting this through Truespace and PCS. I'd like to use the MAX exporter but it seems a shame to have to re-do all the POF data. I wish Styxx would make a POF importer for 3DS Max.
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Post by: Black Wolf on November 08, 2004, 03:03:04 am: Well, release the model and someone else may do it for you.
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Post by: KARMA on November 08, 2004, 03:09:03 am: nice one:nod:
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Post by: c914 on November 08, 2004, 05:06:02 am: It's just excelent HLT model:nod:
what is pcount?
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Post by: Singh on November 08, 2004, 05:16:46 am: I now have a reason to include the Aten into consideration whilst making missions :)

Excellent work indeed! :D
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Post by: Rictor on November 08, 2004, 07:01:35 am: It looks awesome unmapped, but I fear the indendtations and details will be far too subtle to be noticed when textured. You have to make them really big and apparent, or else it will all unfortunately be lost when mapped.
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Post by: Bobboau on November 08, 2004, 08:27:01 am: you know you can import all pof data from an old model to a new one in pcs.
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Post by: StratComm on November 08, 2004, 08:48:46 am: the Max plugin and PCS don't always get along though, so there's a good chance that wouldn't be possible.
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Post by: Taristin on November 08, 2004, 08:59:14 am: You're joking right? I converted the Sobek with Max, and reimported the data with PCS. It's just a matter of renaming the turrets correctly on te max version.
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Post by: Bobboau on November 08, 2004, 09:47:29 am: if the plugin is makeing POFs that PCS can't load it means there is a bug in the plugin that you need to contact Styxx about.
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Post by: freespace2pilot on November 11, 2004, 09:18:17 pm: now for controversy:
burn it SEND IT TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
all because the rear turret is badly placed
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Post by: Lightspeed on November 12, 2004, 09:09:16 am: Bump out the bits on its back (the black thingies). They're bumped out, but placed in a recessed socket.

Else than that, good work :yes:

If you could fix the model's UVmapping it would own.
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Post by: pyro-manic on November 12, 2004, 11:12:12 am: Outstanding :yes:

You've just made an obsolete pile of junk into a very attractive obsolete pile of junk! :D
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Post by: Lightspeed on November 12, 2004, 11:38:09 am: I always liked the Aten. The only bad thing about it is how the textures are applied.
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Post by: pyro-manic on November 12, 2004, 12:16:16 pm: 'Tis a good shape, but it's worse than useless as a cruiser...
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Post by: Galemp on November 12, 2004, 01:25:18 pm: What? I always thought the black things in the back should be bumped in, not out.
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Post by: Black Wolf on November 12, 2004, 01:50:04 pm: Tis weird - I'd never, ever considered the possibility that they might be bumped in, nor had anyone I've spoken to since these models have started coming out, and yet it seems every HTL Vasudan model featuring them has them recessed in.

If you look at the way the light hits it on the FS1 texture though, it's pretty obvious that it's coming out.
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Post by: Flaser on November 12, 2004, 01:53:17 pm: Quote
Originally posted by pyro-manic
'Tis a good shape, but it's worse than useless as a cruiser...

Obviously you don't really remember what it was like to go up against one of these without a shield.
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Post by: Liberator on November 12, 2004, 03:39:32 pm: It's underbelly is it's weakest point, it's defended by one lousy turret. All that is moot since it's weaker than the Fenris hull-wise. It's a beautiful ship though.
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Post by: NGTM-1R on November 14, 2004, 01:40:15 am: I think I remember seeing a higher number for its hull strength, actually.

Atens fitted out with SVas beams are nice if you're just trying to add some anti-cap firepower to a convoy escort...let the fighters fight the fighters.
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Post by: pyro-manic on November 14, 2004, 11:52:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by Flaser

Obviously you don't really remember what it was like to go up against one of these without a shield.

'twas easy. Hercules full of dumbfires. Strafe, turn, burn, repeat. :D You can dodge most of it's turret fire (crappy slow laser bolts), so you only have to worry if it's being guarded by a load of Seths...
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Post by: Ulala on November 18, 2004, 12:37:16 am: :yes: :yes: :yes:
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Post by: Bobboau on November 18, 2004, 09:42:21 am: why haven't we had any updated shots?
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Post by: GoulMeister on November 18, 2004, 10:51:06 am: why cant i have it now????
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Post by: Lightspeed on November 18, 2004, 12:50:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Black Wolf
Tis weird - I'd never, ever considered the possibility that they might be bumped in, nor had anyone I've spoken to since these models have started coming out, and yet it seems every HTL Vasudan model featuring them has them recessed in.

If you look at the way the light hits it on the FS1 texture though, it's pretty obvious that it's coming out.

How true :)
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Post by: Galemp on November 18, 2004, 12:58:29 pm: Hasn't been updated because MAX to POF converter is broke and I'm not touching TS ever again. :p
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Post by: Bobboau on November 18, 2004, 10:17:26 pm: well render a shot of it in max with it's proper textures applied.
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Post by: Beowulf on November 18, 2004, 10:32:44 pm: My God! Something that beautiful shouldn't exist! :eek2:
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Post by: Galemp on November 20, 2004, 05:40:34 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
well render a shot of it in max with it's proper textures applied.

Textures have been applied, that's how I got the bumpmaps. Trouble is that it doesn't look all that different when it's textured, so I posted the bumped one instead because it was cool.

By the way, the polycount on this new one is actually low enough it might work in retail FS2 as well. We shall see.
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Post by: Lightspeed on November 20, 2004, 05:57:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Galemp
Textures have been applied, that's how I got the bumpmaps. Trouble is that it doesn't look all that different when it's textured, so I posted the bumped one instead because it was cool.

You can easily change that if you fix the mapping ;7
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Post by: Grimloq on November 30, 2004, 07:49:30 pm: doh, double clicked...
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Post by: Grimloq on November 30, 2004, 07:49:34 pm: *walks in the door and kicks people till theyre awake*

oy! this thing done yet?
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Post by: Galemp on December 02, 2004, 11:54:29 am: The model's all done, but I can't export it using Max and I don't have Truespace installed.
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Post by: Roanoke on December 02, 2004, 03:04:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Galemp

Textures have been applied, that's how I got the bumpmaps. Trouble is that it doesn't look all that different when it's textured, so I posted the bumped one instead because it was coo.

that had occured to me but I kept quiet incase I was missing something obvious...:nervous:
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Post by: redmenace on December 02, 2004, 03:14:26 pm: anychance of finishing this soon?
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Post by: Galemp on December 03, 2004, 04:29:15 pm: Get Styxx to fyxx his plugin for Maxx.
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Post by: Galemp on February 11, 2005, 12:31:21 pm: Having unraveled the mysteries of the POF exporter plugin, I am now finally able to release my updated Aten.

(http://web.njit.edu/~pjo3/aten2.jpg)

The improvements aren't really that noticeable, but they are there.

(http://web.njit.edu/~pjo3/aten1.jpg)

I modeled the bottom based on the LOD1 textures; there was originally supposed to be a dock point there.

It's fully compatible with any tables, textures or missions you might have, just drop it in your Models folder. Chances are it would work in retail FS2 as well, but try it at your own risk.
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Post by: Nico on February 11, 2005, 12:32:41 pm: Sorry to be blunt, but this thing doesn't even start to compare with your faustus ;)
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Post by: Col. Fishguts on February 11, 2005, 12:38:07 pm: Make some screens with low ambient setting and -spec on, and you will see all the little extruded/recessed bits a whole lot better.
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Post by: Mr_Maniac on February 11, 2005, 12:39:20 pm: Works.... And looks good!
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Post by: Roanoke on February 11, 2005, 01:13:47 pm: tut tut, bumping old threads again eh ? :p
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Post by: Jetmech Jr. on February 11, 2005, 02:11:11 pm: Those Screenshots don't even BEGIN to do the model justice...
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Post by: Galemp on February 11, 2005, 08:58:37 pm: sorry, but the more recent SCP builds have had some lighting issues. Blame them. :hopping:
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Post by: Falcon on February 11, 2005, 11:14:27 pm: :shaking:

800x600 (http://img226.exs.cx/img226/9831/bluesmall3pn.png)

1600x1200 (http://img140.exs.cx/img140/993/blue5pv.png)

*is going to die* :eek:

Galemp's model = :eek2:
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 11, 2005, 11:34:32 pm: Um, I think the textures on LODS2 and 3 are... wrong. Open it up in MODview and you'll see.
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Post by: redmenace on November 12, 2005, 05:28:08 pm: move me