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Title: Trial halted at Guantanamo over Geneva convention
Post by: aldo_14 on November 09, 2004, 03:35:05 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3994183.stm

US federal court has halted a trial at Guantanamo Bay of a former driver for al-Qaeda leader, Osama Bin Laden.

The judge said it must first be determined whether Salim Ahmed Hamdan, from Yemen, was covered by the Geneva conventions.
Title: Trial halted at Guantanamo over Geneva convention
Post by: pyro-manic on November 09, 2004, 10:04:42 am
Like the Americans give a toss about the Geneva Convention.... :doubt:
Title: Trial halted at Guantanamo over Geneva convention
Post by: ionia23 on November 09, 2004, 12:15:11 pm
It's that damned Geneva Convention that keeps us from cleaning up yonder Middle Eastern mess.
Title: Trial halted at Guantanamo over Geneva convention
Post by: Roanoke on November 09, 2004, 12:24:15 pm
I though US judges had no say 'cos it ain't American soil ?
Title: Trial halted at Guantanamo over Geneva convention
Post by: Rictor on November 09, 2004, 02:03:49 pm
What the ****? Somethings not kosher about this. Why do they all of a sudden start caring about the Geneva convention, and then only for 1 person, and a driver of all things..

makes no sense.
Title: Trial halted at Guantanamo over Geneva convention
Post by: vyper on November 09, 2004, 02:07:59 pm
Maybe Bush will turn into a big blue furry hugging creature this term.

Alternatively it could be because they need to cover their backs for any atrocities that may happen during this latest offensive in Iraq (i.e. they respect Geneva convention on POWs so everyone else should)
Title: Trial halted at Guantanamo over Geneva convention
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 09, 2004, 03:07:21 pm
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Originally posted by Rictor
What the ****? Somethings not kosher about this. Why do they all of a sudden start caring about the Geneva convention, and then only for 1 person, and a driver of all things..

makes no sense.
Quite simply, because this is from the judicial branch, instead of the legislative or executive branches.  And it wouldn't be all of a sudden, as it would most likely have been in the works since July, when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the detainees could legally appeal their imprisonment.  My question is whether this was from a district court or appeals court, as that affects what happened already and what happens next. If this was a district court, it would then be moved up to a federal appeals court, as district courts lack appelate jurisdiction.  But if this was an appeals court, it would have already gone through the district court system and would most likely be on the way to the Supreme Court.
Title: Trial halted at Guantanamo over Geneva convention
Post by: aldo_14 on November 09, 2004, 06:06:09 pm
Presumably some nasty evil traitor lawyer type managed to slip in the issue of fair justice & constituational legality into Gitmo.  Silly boy - doesn't he know these people are Ara....terrori....illegal comb.....Arabs?