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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: aldo_14 on November 09, 2004, 07:19:00 pm
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Got any?
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I belive on of the tech room animations has some
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Look in the background of the HOL entry.
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Originally posted by Liberator
Look in the background of the HOL entry.
The techroom HOL entry? That's just the bog-standard black-green background.
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Nope... the closest you could come would be the collosus cutscene, and even then, it'd be hard to find... More likely random corporations' insignias...
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vasudans have no writing. they only know three words : vasudans wuv fishes. lol
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Based on the HOL symbol in the Techroom, I would have to assume that the devs intended it to look vaguely arabic.
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I would sugest using the klingon writing scheme, from Trek. It sure looks good.
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One word: "Akheton". And yeah, the Colossus cutscene. Guess that was more than one word...
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Originally posted by Swamp_Thing
I would sugest using the klingon writing scheme, from Trek. It sure looks good.
I'd rather set fire to my gonads.
Seriously, I'm trying to work out some symbolic stuff equivalent to warning labels (symmetric) rather than words, anyways. But examples of Vasudan typeface / general design would be neat, especially as IIRC the only other example is very low res script on the Sekhmet.
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What about the FS1 CB where the Vasudan archaeologists ask for help ? Wasn't there vasudan stuff somewhere ?
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Galemp has a vasudan font he's using in command brief anis for Scroll of Atankharzim. perhaps you can talk to him about which font it is.
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Originally posted by PhReAk
Galemp has a vasudan font he's using in command brief anis for Scroll of Atankharzim. perhaps you can talk to him about which font it is.
I've had a PM from Sesq about it, IIRC. So hopefully - albeit the only minor worry is that if you are derivative of a derivative, you might get a bit too...derived. :)
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I'm not sure, but for me, the writing looks Old Egypt.. like the Names ;)
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Originally posted by aldo_14
I'd rather set fire to my gonads.
Seriously, I'm trying to work out some symbolic stuff equivalent to warning labels (symmetric) rather than words, anyways. But examples of Vasudan typeface / general design would be neat, especially as IIRC the only other example is very low res script on the Sekhmet.
I´ve never seen any examples, but i figure the vasudans to use a cuneiform type of writing, like the sumerian writings. The klingon language is derived from there.
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My thought was Arabic; basically as it's a sort of 'desert' language. I think cuneiform - and indeed hieroglyphics - is a bit too symbolical and hence not alien enough (especially egyptian hyroglyphics). (cueniform is a bit too geometric IMO, as well. And klingon.... I wouldn't touch any other 'sci-fi' language with a 10 foot bargepolel)
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Maybe Egyptian Shorthand? You know, the character base they used that wasn't the hieroglyphics?
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I don't think the Egyptian had any other written language than the heiroglyphs. That is until they became subservient to a greater nation/city
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http://www.usu.edu/anthro/museum/collections/collections_rosetta_stone.htm
The Rosetta Stone contains three written scripts of the same message. These three scripts are Egyptian hieroglyphs, Egyptian shorthand or demotic script, and the third script is Greek. The top third of the stone contains the Egyptian hieroglyphs, the script used by the pharaoh’s and for all religious writings. The middle third of the Rosetta Stone contains an Egyptian shorthand or demotic script. This demotic script was the script of the common people. The demotic script was used for everyday situations. The lower third of the stone was written in Greek because the Greeks where rulers over Egypt at the time this monument was produced.
(I learned something new today, then)
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Seriously Lib. Spend 10-20 seconds in google before saying stuff like that :D
I'm not certain whether Raa was refering to Hieratic or Demotic as both are pretty good contenders.
This page (http://www.ancient-egypt.org/language/grammar/0201_types.html) has examples of both.
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I was referring to Demotic, but I was unaware it had a name other than Egyptian Shorthand.
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sounds like we're all learning stuff today. I was aware of hieratic but not demotic :D
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Of course...spoken Egyptian was Coptic. Demotic was the language of the 'scribes'. It served as an educated mans working language.The Hieroglyphs were pictograms desribing the coptic words, and were more suited to monuments and carving, rather than ordering three dozen extra sheep for the feast!
IT was Champollions realisation that the Glyphs were actually describing coptic words that was the real 'key' to unlocking the hieroglyphs. Thanks to the Ptolomies, the greek was there to relate directly to the coptic...and voila!
Easy for me to say.... Champollion worked himself into a coma sorting it out!
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Got any?
My Vasudan writing concept consists of wedge shapes stuck together in whatever way looks cool. Each collection of wedges would signify a syllable.
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Pictogram - syllable isn't a bad place to start.
In essence, though, writing is usually a reflection on cultural development, modified by the available technology.
You look at Sanskrit...it was written by pressing a reed into wet clay....you have a set shape for the 'impresssion' which you can shape into various patterns. The patterns were 'stylised' representations of the thing they were trying to desrcibe. Bit like writing in ASCII ;) They were drawing simplified pictures.
To truly 'invent' a system of writing, you first need to decide how they would have written it, and think how that might evolve into a formalised written language over the centuries.
If, for example, rather than pressing reeds into clay, the Vasudans had pressed a razor sharp claw tip through stretched mammal skin to write, you might have a language made up of hook shaped lines....
If they dribbled acidic bile onto parchment, it would be more...blobby ;)
Take a trip back to far flung Vasudan antiquity, and think as a Vasudan ;)
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Hmmmmm. I think I'm going to like you MeekGeek :D
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Sorry for being so short sighted, btw:
an example of demotic script (http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/DEPT/PUB/SRC/CDD/CDD.html)
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I imagine that Vasudans have as many different versions of their written language as they have in their verbal one, just to make things complicated. There's probably a specific written language for military, religious, civilian, general, impereal, diplomatic, etc, etc, etc. So grab bits and pieces of every type of text you can find, mix them in a blender, and you'll probably have something close to what Vasudan might look like.