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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on November 11, 2004, 02:59:32 pm
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This is driving me, and the 20+ people I was with when the question came up, crazy. Cars have steering wheels, airplanes have steering columns, and ships of the sea have....... ?
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The Helm
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Nope, that's the station, not the actual wheel.
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helm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hlm)
n.
Nautical. The steering gear of a ship, especially the tiller or wheel.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
This is driving me, and the 20+ people I was with when the question came up, crazy. Cars have steering wheels, airplanes have steering columns, and ships of the sea have....... ?
The ship's wheel. That's it.
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Ok, the helm is not what I was thinking of, and I'll explain why. If someone has a ships' steering wheel hanging up on his living room wall, you would not walk in and say, "Nice helm you have there!"
You'd say, "Nice _______ you have there!"
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The Tiller?
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Cast bronze ships wheels with teak handles.
These Ships Wheels are 1" deep with 6 spokes and a 1" diameter hub size. This ships wheel can be fitted to a 3/4" tapered shaft using Steering Wheel Hub Adaptor (at the bottom of the following chart).
the wheel is called the steering wheel, which is a part of the Helm or steering gear of a ship, your looking for something that isnt. ie another name for it.
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Oh, it can also be referred to as a 'Tiller Wheel'.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
This is driving me, and the 20+ people I was with when the question came up, crazy. Cars have steering wheels, airplanes have steering columns, and ships of the sea have....... ?
cars have steering columns too.
i dunno, as far as i remember i've always said "Ship's wheel"
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Ship's Wheel, yup
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its a ****ing wheel. a tiller is a long ass lever like the ones you find on outboard motors. on older ship designs the tiller was connected directly to the shaft on which the rudder was mounted, moving the tiller left or right, steered the ship. duh!
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok, the helm is not what I was thinking of, and I'll explain why. If someone has a ships' steering wheel hanging up on his living room wall, you would not walk in and say, "Nice helm you have there!"
You'd say, "Nice _______ you have there!"
Ass?
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
Ass?
(http://www.petpeoplesplace.com/Gallery/Mammals/Farm_Pets/images/donkey01.jpg)
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Helm.
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the rudder?
or is that the little flap in the back that steers the boat?
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Yup.
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she is called a ship's wheel. much like the ship's bell. Always referred to in the female gender, just like the ship she came from. Helm is a term for all of the steering gear, from the Ship's wheel to the rudder. and yes, the rudder is that little flap that turns when you turn the wheel. The ship's wheel has also been known as a Rhoadd. I have no idea what that actually means or why i know it, but for this instance "Ship's wheel" is what you are looking for.
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[color=66ff00]*ponders* a joystick makes my fighter change direction...
*ponders*
It's a joywheel!
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i can see where this is going... any second now someone's going to mention how their joystick looks like a penis, and the whole thread's going to start spiraling downward from there...
oh wait...
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Hey, did you ever notice how much a joystick looks like a.........
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differential, fang, gear, pinion, prong, rack, ratchet, tine, tooth, transmission, tusk,...wheelamajig?
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok, the helm is not what I was thinking of, and I'll explain why. If someone has a ships' steering wheel hanging up on his living room wall, you would not walk in and say, "Nice helm you have there!"
You'd say, "Nice _______ you have there!"
That's a fault of colloquial language, not the term. Helm does indeed refer to the wheel in proper nautical parlance. :)
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Gah. If all that's true, no wonder everyone was stumped. :p
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I'd just call it the round bit
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'Aar matey, take the helm!"
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:doubt:...
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I think a joystick looks like a penis.
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
I think a joystick looks like a penis.
Which, serendipitously, "helm" is sometimes slang for.
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the helm is the name of the station, not the controlls. every movie ive evers seen called the wheel the wheel.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/helm
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calling the wheel the helm goes along the same lines as calling your monitor a computer. helm is a general term for all the steeering devices on the ship and the station at wich one uses them. the wheel is a specific name for a part of the helm. if you are gonna hang an entire helm on your wall, i hope its a hell of a big wall.
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Originally posted by Nuke
calling the wheel the helm...
...is the correct use of the nautical term. What you're talking about is the colloquial meaning, Nuke. :)
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Think of the phrase "Take the heml!" which is the sort of thing your captain might shout at you when you hit a rock. Helm would be the correct term.
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Originally posted by Maeglamor
(http://www.petpeoplesplace.com/Gallery/Mammals/Farm_Pets/images/donkey01.jpg)
Awww... Its cute!:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
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you idiots, it's just called a steering wheel.
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Ok, I have one for you in the same order of idea:
a boat sails
a plane flies
a glider, well, glides
etc
and a car... rolls? :p
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Nico...WTF? :wtf:...I'm confused...what exactly are you asking?
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That's funny, I asked Killmenow the same thing, and he was confused too. You don't have a concept for car movement, it's driven and that's it. You can say that one can drive a car the same way you'd say one pilots a plane, but while you say that a plane is flying, you can't say that a car is... well, whatever, since you can't say it.
Don't think it's odd?
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A car drives AFAIK. It's a clunky word in that context though, so I guess people tend not to use it much.
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a car cruises.
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it just goes, done and dusted
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cars speed, especially when you have your driver's licence. Like I do! yay!
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Cars either crawl, meander, go, cruise, speed, zoom, or mooove, in order of increasing speed. ;)
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Originally posted by icespeed
cars speed, especially when you have your driver's licence. Like I do! yay!
Up until you get caught. Then you either have some respect for speed, or no car, or no license.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Cars either crawl, meander, go, cruise, speed, zoom, or mooove, in order of increasing speed. ;)
You forgot drift, slide, flip and explode :D