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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Thorn on November 12, 2004, 03:26:54 pm
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6456214/
'Halo 2' reports $125 million in first-day sales
Record amount exceeds even internal estimates
The Associated Press
Updated: 8:51 p.m. ET Nov. 10, 2004
SEATTLE - "Halo 2," the much-hyped video game for Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox video game console, had sales of $125 million in just 24 hours on the market, the company said Wednesday.
The figures for the United States and Canada, which represented sales of 2.38 million units, easily exceeded Microsoft's prediction that it would top $100 million in sales.
If independent sales figures show that Microsoft topped or exceeded $125 million in sales, then "Halo 2" would definitely count among the top five best-selling games in history for first-day sales, said David Riley, senior manager with The NPD Group.
But in a year which expects to see many big game debuts, he cautioned that it's too early to know who will eventually claim the most sales in a 24-hour period.
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In general, Riley said it's hard to get accurate data on first-day game sales, although NPD Group does provide estimates on total sales for the life of a video game.
Through September 2004, the company ranks "Super Mario 64" as the best-selling game to date with $308 million in sales since its September 1996 debut. "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City," which went on sale in October 2002, ranks second, with total sales of $284 million.
Tuesday's sales figures would put "Halo 2" on track to easily beat out the first version of "Halo." That game debuted in November of 2001 and ranked eighth with sales of $149 million through September 2004, according to NPD.
Retailers also reported a busy day. GameStop Inc., which operates 1,726 stores throughout the United States, said it sold more than 500,000 copies of "Halo 2" in the first day, substantially more than any other game on its first day of release.
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Can you say, "profit."
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I can say "bloody good game."
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Does this mean we get a PC version sooner than 2006?
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I dunno. The case on Halo 2 said 'Only on Xbox' and I can only assume that it means it's only on Xbox :P. If I got the meaning wrong, feel free to correct me, but I'm skeptical...
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Thats what Halo originally said on it.
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Hmm, guess it means its only on Xbox atm. I feel doubtful about a PC port, though...can only hope.
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Don't see why they wouldn't considering that Halo PC was profitable and Halo 2 will sell on par with the original. The least they'll do is license it out to Gearbox again but I'm confident of an eventual release
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Same here - Halo 2 is a very good piece of work. They've improved in many areas, with the possible exception of extensive engine tweaking.
Only on XBox? Pfft....I remember when an XBox flyer claimed that both Half Life 2 and Doom 3 were 'only on XBox.' That label is now a joke as far as I'm concerned.
Meh, Halo was originally going to be an RTS on the Mac anyway.......think how different it would have been! :D
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Originally posted by SadisticSid
Don't see why they wouldn't considering that Halo PC was profitable and Halo 2 will sell on par with the original. The least they'll do is license it out to Gearbox again but I'm confident of an eventual release
A-****ingmen
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Yeah, it'll come eventually - just a matter of time, IMHO. I just hope this makes Bungie get on the move for Halo 3. :p
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Well, we'll see about that. :)
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With the ending, it's practically a given that there will be some kinda sequel.
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Originally posted by SadisticSid
Don't see why they wouldn't considering that Halo PC was profitable and Halo 2 will sell on par with the original. The least they'll do is license it out to Gearbox again but I'm confident of an eventual release
I hope not. Gearbox buggered up Halo.
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Microsoft, they will do anything to make money. I bet they will make a PC version sooner or later. They would be dumb not to because it would simply be too lucrative to also release a PC version. The pull of the money, make...its just too much!
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I remember a game, where there was an ending that left you wanting more. Something about space and getting back to Earth. It sounds really familiar.
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lol
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Originally posted by Blue Lion
I remember a game, where there was an ending that left you wanting more. Something about space and getting back to Earth. It sounds really familiar.
Yeah. I also seem to remember it being infinitely better than Halo. :D
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This from the man who's still preparing for Descent 1... :doubt:
:p
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Halo 2 went platinum!
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Originally posted by Raa
This from the man who's still preparing for Descent 1... :doubt:
:p
Hey, I consider D1 to be infinitely better than Halo as well. :D
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Now that deserves a :wtf:
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Originally posted by Thorn
I hope not. Gearbox buggered up Halo.
Uh.........how?:wtf:
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Most machines have trouble running it at max detail. Even people with lots of RAM, some of the better FX or Radeon cards and a fast processor. The system requirements are a lie.
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Originally posted by Clave
Now that deserves a :wtf:
Maybe... but it is true:D
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Originally posted by Thorn
Most machines have trouble running it at max detail. Even people with lots of RAM, some of the better FX or Radeon cards and a fast processor. The system requirements are a lie.
You'd think that it would require the X-Box equivalent for max performance and everything else would be gravy.
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The thing is, the original design of Halo was specifically coded to take advantage of the specific parts in the Xbox, so you had a bunch of specific code that wouldn't work on anything except a P3 and a modified GF3.
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Originally posted by Clave
Now that deserves a :wtf:
Ultra-deadly robots that still scare the s*** out of you ten years later? Check (Don't believe me? Look up 'Fusion Hulk,' and you will find the true definition of fear. :eek2:)
The only game series with true six-degrees-of-freedom gameplay? Check
One of the greatest sci-fi ships of all time? Check
An awesome collection of weapons, including the one and only Fusion and Mega? Check
The first true 3D game including polygonal enemies? Check
The first game with easy, out-of-the-box multiplayer action? Check
The ability to still be played today thanks to the D1X project? Check
I rest my case. :D
(You may now return to your regularly scheduled thread. :p)
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
The thing is, the original design of Halo was specifically coded to take advantage of the specific parts in the Xbox, so you had a bunch of specific code that wouldn't work on anything except a P3 and a modified GF3.
Yeah, but that's a bollocks excuse. Visually, there's nothing in Halo which hadn't already been done - better - by a PC at the time the conversion was released.
whenever Gearbox have responded to complaints about this (i.e. on bluesnews), it's been along the lines of 'well, this is a high-spec game' or similar. The problem is, that even if you accept that, the min. requirements are a blatant lie - I have a machine which exceeds them in every way (over double the CPU speed*, double RAM, gfx card, etc), and which cannot easily run the game at decent frameworks on minimal settings (gfx at min, pixel shader path at 1.1, res at min, sound at min).
And if they didn't lie about this, then they screwed up the coding somehow by having massively large performance differences between hardware configs.
To be honest, it's put me off Halo 2 when/if it's released on PC.
*yes, I know CPU speed isn't proportional to the actual computational performance... but 2.4GHz > 733MHz
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I think it's more along the lines of the coding is specific, and the guys at Gearbox are too lazy to properly make the code branches for different setups.
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So long as Bungie does it, and not Gearbox, I can't see a problem. They of all people should know how to do it. Giving it to a company known only for making a couple of expansions for existing games and saying "make it work" was a brain dead move.
Opposing Force may have been good gameplay and storywise, but they only code they added was two extra weapon groups and the barnacle grappling hook. That is not the same as what they did with Halo. Not even close.
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...I'm not happy with Halo 2 now that I've had a chance to play through a few times and get the feel of the game. Not happy at all.
They've nerfed the weapons. They've shrunk the area of the game. They've made the opponents smaller and you bigger, or both. In other words, they took the crap-out route to making it more difficult.
This may physically be Halo's successor, but spiritually it's more like Doom 3.