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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The FRED Workshop => Topic started by: kane544 on November 15, 2004, 05:57:44 pm
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Does anyone know how many combat spacecraft an Orion can hold? I need to know because I'm putting it in the Command Briefing for a Campaign I'm doing.
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More than two dozen fighter and/or bomber wings. That's all I can find...
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Oh one thing i wanted to add. My campaign starts off having you have to help the GTVA stop a small rebel faction in the Ross 128 system from taking over the system. I'll work out the rest as I go.
Just a note it takes place about 1 year after the Capella incident
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I think the consensus was that an Orion can hold 120 (as opposed to a Hecate's 150) but I don't remember where I read that.
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A Orion can hold 20 wings of fighters and bombers.
Going by the generally accepted standard of 4 fightercraft per wing, that works out to...80 fightercraft.
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Nope...120..Look at the Bastion animation when you join the Hammerheads. There is a listing of squadrons serving on it.
It lists 10 squadrons.
1 squadron = 12 fighters, which means 120 fighters total...
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Sutehp made a great list over on FREDZone years ago. Fortunately I saved it :)
Fighter complement for Terran and Vasudan destroyers and the Colossus:
An Orion-class destroyer can carry a grand total of 30 wings of fighters and bombers (assuming all the wings are made up of 4 fighters or 4 bombers each). Total fighter/bomber complement: 120
(I know I said before that the FS1 database said that an Orion can only carry 24 wings, but I saw another FS2 cutscene (the one that introduces you to the 53rd Hammerheads squadron) that clearly shows the Bastion (an Orion) having 10 squadrons ALL CLEARLY LABELED in its complement. 10 squadrons equals 120 fighters so the Orion has 30 wings. [10 squadrons x 12 fighters each = 120 fighters total. THUS 120 fighters divided by 4 fighters in one wing = 30 wings] I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again; if there’s ever confusion between an FS1 convention and an FS2 convention, I’ll pick the FS2 convention every time because I can find other info to correlate stuff with in FS2.)
A Hecate can carry a grand total of 39 wings of fighters and bombers (assuming all the wings are made up of 4 fighters or 4 bombers each). Total fighter/bomber complement: 156
A Typhon-class destroyer can carry a grand total of 30 wings of fighters and bombers (again assuming that each wing is made up of 4 fighters or 4 bombers each). Total fighter/bomber complement: 120
A Hatshepsut-class destroyer, like the Hecate, can carry a grand total of 39 wings of fighters and bombers (assuming all the wings are made up of 4 fighters or 4 bombers each). Total fighter/bomber complement: 156
The Colossus can carry a grand total of 60 wings of fighters and bombers (assuming all the wings are made up of 4 fighters or 4 bombers each). Total fighter/bomber complement: 240
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Fighter complement of Shivan destroyers and the Sathanas juggernaut:
Fighter complement of Shivan destroyers is unknown at this time but can be assumed to be equivalent to Terran and Vasudan destroyers.
Assume that a Demon-class destroyer can carry a grand total of 30 wings of fighters and bombers (again assuming that each wing is made up of 4 fighters or 4 bombers each). Total fighter/bomber complement: 120
Assume that a Ravana-class destroyer can carry a grand total of 39 wings of fighters and bombers (again assuming that each wing is made up of 4 fighters or 4 bombers each). Total fighter/bomber complement: 156
Fighter complement of the Lucifer superdestroyer has, according to the FS1 database, "4 full squadrons" while a Demon can carry "2 squadrons." Thus, my extrapolation leads me to say that the fighter/bomber complement of a Lucifer-class superdestroyer is 60 wings (twice that of a Demon-class destroyer). Total fighter/bomber complement: 240
(Note: I said before that there are inconsistencies between FS1 and FS2 over details. According to FS1, a squadron would be five times as large as a squadron in FS2 to have the destroyer complements be consistent. To minimize confusion, I’m going to stay with the FS2 conventions. Everywhere else but FS1, I’ve always seen that a squadron ALWAYS equals 12 ships, be it Star Wars, FS2 or Real Life ™ Navy or Air Force squadrons.)
Fighter complement of the Sathanas juggernaut is unknown at this time, but can be expected to greatly exceed those of the Demon and Ravana-class ships and even that of the Lucifer-class superdestroyer. The Sathanas can plausibly be expected to have 99 wings (perhaps as many as 120!). Total fighter/bomber complement: 396 (or 480!)
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To find out how many squadrons a particular capital ship can carry, take its total fighter/bomber complement and divide by 12. This is how I managed to extrapolate specific numbers for destroyer complements; I multiplied by 12 and discarded complements that had remainders. This allows me to put in full squadrons, rather than have a certain number of squadrons and have an odd wing or two out. Thus:
Orion squadron complement: 120 / 12 = 10 squadrons
Hecate squadron complement: 156 / 12 = 13 squadrons
Typhon squadron complement: 120 / 12 = 10 squadrons
Hatshepsut squadron complement: 156 / 12 = 13 squadrons
Colossus squadron complement: 240 / 12 = 20 squadrons
Demon squadron complement: 120 / 12 = 10 squadrons
Ravana squadron complement: 156 / 12 = 13 squadrons
Lucifer squadron complement: 240 / 12 = 20 squadrons
Sathanas squadron complement: 396 / 12 = 33 squadrons (or 480 / 12 = 40 squadrons!)BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID... :eek
As a general rule, the Terran and Vasudan wing complements should be adhered to as much as possible. The Shivan capital ships, however, are less certain. Due to the Shivans’ mysterious nature (and the classified info of their ships) the Shivan complements I’ve written down here are more guidelines rather than set rules, especially for the Lucifer and the Sathanas.
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The number of ships per squadron, though, is semi-questionable.
Besides, they list the wings in the tech room, and it's possible not all of the Bastion's squadrons were at full strength.
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Why don't you look at the Tech Room Database. I think it says there how many wings of fighters/bombers. :D
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Dammit, I did it again! I overlooked a posting!