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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Taristin on November 16, 2004, 10:16:07 pm
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How would you do it?
I ask because It's one of my favorite looking ships. It's not all that bad to fly, either. I have a mesh that is basically a copy of the body and cocpit, that I'm working on, and I'd like to make it more of a modern version, but am at a loss.
Suggestions? Or am I beating a dead horse, too?
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more armor and a greater secondary capacity. I mean 5 harpoons. what. the. ****.
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...I mean geometry wise... those two requests could be done in the tables...
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Make it less "boxy" and replace those lame-a$$ engines.
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Pull a Valkyrie on it: double the engines.
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Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
Make it less "boxy" and replace those lame-a$$ engines.
i like those lame ass engines
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I think the exhausts look rather small on them in the Tech Room, but ingame the effect is quite good. And ultimately, I'm going to be looking at it ingame, so...
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Add more sharp, angled edges to emphasise the stealth aspect of the ship.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Add more sharp, angled edges to emphasise the stealth aspect of the ship.
It has micro roughed hull so - put in lots of little holes, or bumpmap it and beg Bobb for in game bumpmapping.
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Meh... I'll see what I can do to my model...
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Originally posted by Flaser
It has micro roughed hull so - put in lots of little holes, or bumpmap it and beg Bobb for in game bumpmapping.
Micro probably means that it's so small that you don't see it.:p
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Engines, "wings", cockpit. Those are the places to start from. The textures will give you a hint of the intended shape.
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Loki Mk II, eh?
Put a spike on the nose. Yes
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Does anyone remember my NTF Ragnarok? *digs up picture*
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UUUUUUUUUUGLY!
my god...If you want...I'll give it a shot.
I may be a newbie, but I can give the Loki a FS2-ish look...somewhat...
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no offence Galemp, but that's not exactly a looker.
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I hope you all don't see this as me crashing or spaming someone elses thred, but i just had to find out what it might look like. So i though together a five min whip of a possability.
(http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/loki/loki.jpg)
This is what i came up with. I know its boxy still but it is only a cheap throw together...
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Unfortunately: :no: in my opinion... not that the Loki was my favorite design anyway.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Loki Mk II, eh?
(http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/staff/setekh/loki2-press.jpg)
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This is what i came up with.
Sorry, but that's no Loki. :)
The Loki is something like this:
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/lightspeed/misc/Lokishape.jpg)
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I find it very annoying that you can just make something like that, as if it were no big thing, as in "Oh, yeah, I have a few ideas. Here, just give me a minute, and I'll make it for you".
:ick: :ick:
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
Sorry, but that's no Loki. :)
The Loki is something like this:
http://www.penguinbomb.com/lightspeed/misc/Lokishape.jpg
Why would you indent the snarly decal?
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Originally posted by boewolf
I hope you all don't see this as me crashing or spaming someone elses thred, but i just had to find out what it might look like. So i though together a five min whip of a possability.
http://users.ncable.com.au/gtbernaldo/pics/loki/loki.jpg
This is what i came up with. I know its boxy still but it is only a cheap throw together...
finally kicked TS3 in the head I see.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Why would you indent the snarly decal?
Only the lower part of it, actually. But it shouldn't really be indented, just as much to affect lighting and env reflections (which is the reason it's there).
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
Sorry, but that's no Loki. :)
The Loki is something like this:
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/lightspeed/misc/Lokishape.jpg)
Hmm. I'd like to do this... I'll see about it. :)
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Really?
Time to go and find *cough cough*... someone *cough*, who is rather obsessed with this very vessel :D
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/me loves the loki
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sheesh... thats awesome!
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Better UV Mapping on some places.
It is good-looking geometrically.
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Originally posted by Sheepy
/me loves the loki
I was talking about Cheets :nervous:
*ram!*
/dies.
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....but i do
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I know :)
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So do I like the Loki.
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Loki, sure looking more and more like the god of mischief to me. Excellent detailing.
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I hope you all realize that those images Lighty posted are not an actual model... but a photoshopped version of the original...
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I did realize that. Am I good?
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Hows this for a start? (Don't worry, the UV mapping is fixed, but you can't see anything with the textures on)
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^bend the front ends of the "teeth" on the "side pods" inwards a bit at the end
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You look to be HTL-ing the Loki rather than redesigning it, as the thread title suggests. Of course, either is a good thing.
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through some valk wings on it with a couple of missile pods instead of primary points on it (following an earlier sudgestion)
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The cockpit and the nose detailing are good, but the other details are so small that they won't be apparent in-game unless you disable one of this Lokis and start inspecting the model intentionally lookng for details.
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Originally posted by Raa
Hows this for a start? (Don't worry, the UV mapping is fixed, but you can't see anything with the textures on)
- The recessed part under the cockpit needs to be a bit deeper.
- the light grey part (on the wing) is recessed compared to the dark grey one (see textures and my sketch)
- Make the cockpit rounded.
- Add more detailZZZ!
But yes, a very good start so far. :nod:
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Ehh. I'll probably end up deleting this one. Like the Anubis I worked on...
And I'm still taking suggestions for what people think the logical successor to the Loki would look like.
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Don't drop it. It's headed the right way. :)
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I'm working on an upgraded version, too at the same time, and I have a few vague ideas of where I'd like to go with it. Here's where it's at now. I reverted back to how I had it because I couldn't flesh out an idea I had. (Sometimes I wish I was working with Clay, instead...:sigh: )
As you can see, there's hardly anything of definition, but it does resemble the loki atleast a little bit.
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no... no it doesnt.
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Yes. Yes it does. The entire front is exactly the same as the front of the Loki, just it's been meshsmoothed. Don't believe me? Go see for yourself.
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hmm.... ya, vaguely i guess...
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People who post in colours are annoying. Or rather, their posts are. Especially if it's "tomato". Heck, if we had "vasudan" or "shivan", it'd be a lot more profitable. But all we have is a lousy collection of standard colours. Bah.
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This colour is pretty gay, I think I'll use this from now on. Fabulous!
And Raa, that's just too... well, non-Loki. Even though the nose does bear close resemblance to Loki's nose section, the rest of it is just too Vas.
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Maybe show us a more detailed model?
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Originally posted by Janos
And Raa, that's just too... well, non-Loki. Even though the nose does bear close resemblance to Loki's nose section, the rest of it is just too Vas.
You've got to be ****ing kidding me. IT'S THE LOKI'S FRONT END WITH A MESHSMOOTH! That's all it is... does anyone even read anymore?!
The rest of it is a main fusalage that hasn't had anything added to it yet. Mein gott...
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Gott should be capitalized :p
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Depends on how much you believe. :p
Anyways, I think I'm going ro drop this project for now anyways... I have... "other stuff" to work on for "other projects"...
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Pity MindGames in particular might have had a use for it :D
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If I can make something different from what I made for TVWP out of it, then we'll see. ;)
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Originally posted by Raa
Depends on how much you believe. :p
No, german nouns are generally capitalized, you know :)
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Bah! Ich weisse Deutsche nicht! Ich finde dass Ich viele Fehler mache... Ich ubergebe!
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Using your mesh-smoothed Loki, I would have suggested accessorising it, using the Herc2 to draw inspiration from.
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Originally posted by Raa
Bah! Ich weisse Deutsche nicht! Ich finde dass Ich viele Fehler mache... Ich ubergebe!
Ich is not capitalized, unless it's at the start of a sentence. And the right form of "wissen" would be "weiß" in that case. But "to know a language" cannot be translated literally, it's "eine Sprache sprechen" instead (i.e. to speak a language). Uhm, and that last part doesn't make too much sense either.
German really sucks though, don't waste your time on it. Learn something useful such as spanish. (0wnage!)
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meh... on topic... i might even give it a try
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Originally posted by Lightspeed
Ich is not capitalized, unless it's at the start of a sentence. And the right form of "wissen" would be "weiß" in that case. But "to know a language" cannot be translated literally, it's "eine Sprache sprechen" instead (i.e. to speak a language). Uhm, and that last part doesn't make too much sense either.
German really sucks though, don't waste your time on it. Learn something useful such as spanish. (0wnage!)
Bah! I say! Bah!
I hate Spanish! I want a language that isn't spoken by every third person in NY!
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Go for Latin. ;)
IMHO the best language. Ok the grammar so hard to learn that it's hard to speak in sentences, but at least it's logical grammar.
BTW we talked about languages a long time ago, AFAIR. ;)
Back to topic:
Are you going for a HTL Loki, or more for a Loki MK2?
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Originally posted by Raa
I hate Spanish! I want a language that isn't spoken by every third person in NY!
Well, in *that* case, Drow is your friend. Nothing can beat a completely artificial AD&D language ;7
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Originally posted by Raa
Bah! Ich weisse Deutsche nicht! Ich finde dass Ich viele Fehler mache... Ich ubergebe!
:lol:
Originally posted by Lightspeed
Ich is not capitalized, unless it's at the start of a sentence. And the right form of "wissen" would be "weiß" in that case. But "to know a language" cannot be translated literally, it's "eine Sprache sprechen" instead (i.e. to speak a language). Uhm, and that last part doesn't make too much sense either.
"Ich kann kein Deutsch. Ich finde dass ich viele Fehler mache."
That would be the correct sentence. "know a language" is translated by "eine Sprache können", i.e. being capable of using that language. I'm not certain what that last part is about - "ü(u)bergebe" could be "hand sth over" or "turn sth over", which doesn't make too much sense, or it could be about airing your belly...
Well, so much for that little language lesson. :)
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Originally posted by DaBrain
Back to topic:
Are you going for a HTL Loki, or more for a Loki MK2?
Err, I was actually attempting both in this thread, but I have since dropped both as well. I don't even have the time now, I don't know why I brought this up.
Originally posted by Lightspeed
Well, in *that* case, Drow is your friend. Nothing can beat a completely artificial AD&D language ;7
...and gain the social status of those who speak Klingon... Nein danke. :p
I'd actually like to learn Korean. It doesn't sound super hard to pronounce half of the words. But I'd never learn the alphabet.
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Klugscheisser... ;)
Hmm.....the forum filter doesn't catch filthy german words.....muahahahahahahaha
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:lol: Good one! :D
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That last bit was a babelfish translation for "I surrender" because I never learned that...
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"Surrender" in the meaning of "to give up"?
Then it's "Ich gebe auf." :)
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Originally posted by Raa
I hate Spanish! I want a language that isn't spoken by every third person in NY!
Learn Portuguese then. You then have the advantage of understanding spanish people but them not having the faintest clue what you're on about :D
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Originally posted by DaBrain
Go for Latin. ;)
IMHO the best language. Ok the grammar so hard to learn that it's hard to speak in sentences, but at least it's logical grammar.
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Italian is somehow the same . . . it is terribly hard to speak.
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Originally posted by mitac
That would be the correct sentence. "know a language" is translated by "eine Sprache können", i.e. being capable of using that language. I'm not certain what that last part is about - "ü(u)bergebe" could be "hand sth over" or "turn sth over", which doesn't make too much sense, or it could be about airing your belly...
Well, so much for that little language lesson. :)
Will mich hier jemand über den Gebrauch der Deutschen Sprache aufklären? :p
Man kann natürlich sagen daß man eine Sprache kann oder nicht, aber es ist eben halt nunmal ein ziemlich schlechter Stil im Vergleich.
karajorma: Español es mejor que el portugués en muchas maneras, pero sobre todo porque suena mucho mejor. El portugués nunca me ha gustado. Y que no me pregunten porqué, ni siquiera yo mismo lo sé. :p
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Lightspeed, how many languages do you actually speak? From what you're writing I couldn't tell whether you're an english-, german- oder spanish native speaker...but my spanish isn't good to any extent.
Anybody with some scandinavian languages? So we could create at least some connection to the Loki...:p
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I'm thinking German is his native, and the other two are his preferences.
But he's got the advantage, with Spanish, in that he doesn't have a continent and a half of people south of him speaking it, who often enough come to the US and don't learn English.
It's pretty frustrating trying to talk to these people when I'm working, since they don't speak a word of English. :doubt:
It's turned me off to the language.
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Originally posted by Raa
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It's pretty frustrating trying to talk to these people when I'm working, since they don't speak a word of English. :doubt:
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The fun here is that you can expect other people speak your language. Me, as a Central-European cannot expect anyone to know a word of my language if I ever do abroad.
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I don't mean it to be arrogant, but I do think that when you go to other countries, you should make an effort to atleast learn some of the language there. Especially if you go to live there. I wouldn't move to Ecuador and demand that everyone learn English to accomodate me, but yet more and more, I'm finding, that we have to learn spanish to deal with them. I see now why Quebec has it's French-only laws...
And I know how I sound very ethnocentric saying this, but I don't care. It's courtesy.
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I agree with that one.
Although I think there should be exceptions. Like i.e. political refugees.
The people should at least try to learn the language. In their own interest.
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Originally posted by mitac
Lightspeed, how many languages do you actually speak? From what you're writing I couldn't tell whether you're an english-, german- oder spanish native speaker...but my spanish isn't good to any extent.
Well, that entirely depends :)
I speak four languages more or less fluently, but also know a bit on some other languages (not really much in most cases, however).
Originally posted by Raa
I'm thinking German is his native, and the other two are his preferences.
Well, both are "native", though there's several problems with my spanish. Thing is, I never went to school in spain so my spelling is er.... rather bad. :p And I don't use it often enough, so... :doubt:
But he's got the advantage, with Spanish, in that he doesn't have a continent and a half of people south of him speaking it, who often enough come to the US and don't learn English.
No, but here we have quite a lot of turkish people who don't bother to learn any other languages as well :p
It's pretty frustrating trying to talk to these people when I'm working, since they don't speak a word of English. :doubt:
It's turned me off to the language.
That's cause they suck. They should at least try and communicate in English.
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What's the problem with the turks? Just order your Döner, they'll understand it most of the time. :drevil:
I speak four languages more or less fluently, but also know a bit on some other languages (not really much in most cases, however).
Quite impressive. :nod:
I don't mean it to be arrogant, but I do think that when you go to other countries, you should make an effort to atleast learn some of the language there. Especially if you go to live there.
Agreed. There's a major debate going on over here at the time, politicians are discussing whether language courses should be mandatory for any immigrants - even before elementary school. They should've started this quite some time ago. The way it went so far, it has only furthered the development of a variety of social issues, like the minorities sticking together, shielding themselves from the exterior. I wonder how long this'll be in the news before it's forgotten.