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Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: aldo_14 on November 18, 2004, 04:13:41 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4019801.stm

Nursery rhymes expose children to far more violent incidents than an average evening watching TV, researchers say.

A Bristol Royal Hospital for Children team found the frequency of nursery rhyme violence was more than 10 times greater than in pre-9pm programmes.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Flipside on November 18, 2004, 04:35:33 am
LOL Well, at least they admitted it was a tongue in cheek survey ;)

Most nursery rhymes were about horrible deaths anyway, it was the old fashoined way of passing stories and warnings from one generation to the next :)
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: SadisticSid on November 18, 2004, 04:40:35 am
What a crock of ****e. 'Imagination can be more powerful' my arse - as if children visualise severe head injuries when they're being sung Humpty Dumpty. ^_^

At least they said their study wasn't serious
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: aldo_14 on November 18, 2004, 04:42:32 am
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Originally posted by SadisticSid
What a crock of ****e. 'Imagination can be more powerful' my arse
 


Are you saying I wasn't hunted by a group of mad inivisble commie-nazi-mexican bandito-terrorists across a golf course in 1992?
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Flipside on November 18, 2004, 05:57:59 am
You mean there are no man eating toasters? :nervous:
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: an0n on November 18, 2004, 06:03:10 am
You mean we can't wear shoes on our hands and have hamburgers eat people?

Err....wait, that was in Rand McNally. Nevermind.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: vyper on November 18, 2004, 06:16:25 am
Think about it though, some nursery rhymes can be vicious - it's just you're so young you don't really think about them. They place those little warning signs in the back of your head for later life.

Whereas Ring-a-Ring-a-Roses just scares you ****less about diseases.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Black Wolf on November 18, 2004, 08:46:41 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Are you saying I wasn't hunted by a group of mad inivisble commie-nazi-mexican bandito-terrorists across a golf course in 1992?


Wait, wait... the Golf Course incident of '92? That was you?  :eek2:
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Drew on November 18, 2004, 11:25:52 am
Oh yeah, the first thing I said after I first heard humpty dumpty was "Mates!! Lezzz busst some headdzz!!!" gangsta style.


No. BBC should be banned from earth for even posting that article.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: SKYNET-011 on November 18, 2004, 11:29:37 am
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Nursery rhymes expose children to far more violent incidents


That's completly pathetic. Not to mention bull****.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: SKYNET-011 on November 18, 2004, 11:29:37 am
-Doublepost-
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Fineus on November 18, 2004, 11:34:45 am
Perhaps there is more violence, but did they ever stop and analyse what kind?

Fact is - written words probably aren't as instantly graphic to children as television is. Most if not all television programs are thought out in a way that attracts the viewer to what they're watching, and tries to hold their interest. The violence displayed will be easier to associate with real life than a nursery rhyme could be.

The end result? Nursery rhymes are no doubt safer to teach to children than sitting them infront of some soap where a man hits a woman ever could be. Sure - Jack my bump his head, Humpty Dumpty may break his. But it's a little bit different from Shaun trying to run over Sarah with his BMW, then getting out and beating her.. or Katey taking drugs then slapping her friend because she's lost control of her mind...
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: aldo_14 on November 18, 2004, 11:36:46 am
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Originally posted by Drew
Oh yeah, the first thing I said after I first heard humpty dumpty was "Mates!! Lezzz busst some headdzz!!!" gangsta style.


No. BBC should be banned from earth for even posting that article.

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Originally posted by SKYNET-011


That's completly pathetic. Not to mention bull****.


And did you actually read the article?
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: SKYNET-011 on November 18, 2004, 11:40:11 am
Do children actually read more nursery rhymes than watch tv?

With tv the violence is visually presented.

Though I suppose if a child were to mentally visualize violence from a story instead of just watching it, it'd have greater effect.

And we already know that blaming tv for violence is too simplistic.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Drew on November 18, 2004, 11:41:15 am
Yes. The premise is complete bull****.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Fineus on November 18, 2004, 11:42:24 am
It might if they associate it with their own lives... but I can't recall the nursery rhyme that described daddy hitting mummy and throwing a knife at the wall... TV generally *does* show that kind of thing before 9pm. It follows then that TV will have more of an impact on a child than the nursery rhyme will (heck, the true meaning behind ring-a-ring-a-roses isn't even known to most children!)
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: aldo_14 on November 18, 2004, 12:00:23 pm
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Originally posted by Drew
Yes. The premise is complete bull****.


:sigh:


A Bristol Royal Hospital for Children team found the frequency of nursery rhyme violence was more than 10 times greater than in pre-9pm programmes.

The tongue-in-cheek study examined 25 popular rhymes, Archives of Disease in Childhood reported.

Examples of violent incidents included Humpty Dumpty being hurt in a fall and Jack and Jill tumbling down a hillside.

The researchers admit their study was not entirely serious - but they say it does make the point that blaming television for increasing levels of violence is too simplistic.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: SKYNET-011 on November 18, 2004, 01:04:58 pm
I read that too. It may not be serious, but it is a study nontheless.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Flipside on November 18, 2004, 01:32:40 pm
And 74% of all statistics are made up on the spot ;)
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Lynx on November 18, 2004, 01:44:23 pm
I like tongue-in-cheeck studies. I once suggested in my psychology class to make a survey about what people think about the natrium chloride in our food. Too bad it got turned sown:(
But it would have been interesting what people have answered, though. Most of hem would have certainly got the joke, but I bet there are enough people who would have made themselves look stupid.:D
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: kasperl on November 18, 2004, 01:54:26 pm
Lynx: Are you aware of the dangers of DHMO?
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Carl on November 18, 2004, 04:30:30 pm
rockaby baby is the worst nursery rhyme ever. i'm not singing to my children about a baby falling out of a tree.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 18, 2004, 06:01:55 pm
That's not really a nursery rhyme, Carl. That would be a lullaby...
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
Post by: icespeed on November 18, 2004, 07:01:13 pm
anyone ever read a book called 'i am the cheese'? i can't remember who it's by. there's a story where nursery rhymes take control.
Title: Nursery rhyme violence 'tops TV'
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