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Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 20, 2004, 07:26:23 pm
hi there......
I want to make a campaign.......
I already got the plot................(it's a little inspired in Halo, so you got an idea)...
developing the plot was real hard..............but i think that this campaing will answer most questions we have from Freespace 2...
What are the Shivans? Why are they attacking us? they haven't settled any planets, why??? what happened with Bosch??? and more...
the plot will also feauture a MAJOR irony...you'll know when it's released...

but i have a SERIOUS PROBLEM with the FRED..........
i can't open it!!!
it gives me error with the gamepalette01-1 or something..
this is what it says:

"
Error: Can't open palette file
File:C:\projects\freespace2\code\Palman\PalMan.cpp
Line: 317

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
    FRED2.EXE 0064ec88()
    FRED2.EXE 0063a544()
    FRED2.EXE 00639528()
    FRED2.EXE 00639731()
    KERNEL32.DLL bff63613()
    KERNEL32.DLL bff848f7()
------------------------------------------------------------------
"

i didn't modified this file...and i'm opening FRED directly...withouth trying to open any mission...

HELP ME!!! PLEASE!!! i really want to make this Campaing...

note: sorry about any mispelling..i'm from Argentina, you know...
note 2: i haven't played FS1, but i'm well aware of what happened there...
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Annihilation on November 20, 2004, 07:37:02 pm
Did you already tried a reinstall? Are you using standard FRED or the OPEN version? If you installed the Open_FS2 it will have problems with the standard FRED which cames with the commercial version of FS2.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 20, 2004, 07:40:38 pm
i reinstalled.........no improvement
i'm using the orginal FRED2....
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 20, 2004, 07:42:48 pm
there is an OPEN FRED2??? i had no idea???

it's been 1 year since i "left"  the FS community

i always wanted to make a campaign...but never could develop a good plot......until now
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Annihilation on November 20, 2004, 07:45:35 pm
Very strange behavior. Try sending a Private Message to some mods on the forum. They have lots of experience and probably saw this before.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 20, 2004, 07:52:34 pm
"strange behavior"...
mine? or the program behavior???

any way...............you mean i gotta ask to the modders?? i don't know any...
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 20, 2004, 08:59:30 pm
Thank god!!!
i found a FS1 port to FS2!!!
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Axem on November 20, 2004, 08:59:42 pm
Gamepallete...whatever refers to a file that wasn't included with retail FS2. I think it has something to do with subspace missions. Anyhow, the file is in the Core Media VP, which is located here. (http://fs2source.warpcore.org/mediavps/mv_core_b.exe)

But to get it to work like its supposed to, you may want to grab FSOpen 3.6. Details are in this thread. (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,23953.0.html) If you grab the full installer one, it should have all the VP's you need. There's also some new version of FRED you can use, but most are pretty unstable at the moment. I don't have a link handy for that one at the moment.

And just a word of warning, most new FREDders come around announcing a huge campaign, but few rarely come through. So don't be surprised if some people aren't super excited about this. It's advised that you either join a project start off small like a mini-campaign or something. You don't have to, its just that if everyone worked on their own huge campaign, nothing would ever get done. :(

If you're just starting to FRED, I'd recommend checking out FRED Academy. It's geared towards the new FREDders or people with little FREDding skills. There are more details about it in the thread at the top of the board.

And finally...

:welcome:
Title: Re: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: karajorma on November 21, 2004, 02:49:01 am
Quote
Originally posted by willy_principal
Error: Can't open palette file
File:C:\projects\freespace2\code\Palman\PalMan.cpp
Line: 317

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
    FRED2.EXE 0064ec88()
    FRED2.EXE 0063a544()
    FRED2.EXE 00639528()
    FRED2.EXE 00639731()
    KERNEL32.DLL bff63613()
    KERNEL32.DLL bff848f7()
------------------------------------------------------------------
"

i didn't modified this file...and i'm opening FRED directly...withouth trying to open any mission...


That's a common error when FRED2 can't find it's vp files. Is FRED2 in the same folder as all the rest of your Freespace2 .vp files? If so most likely one of them has become corrupted somehow.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Annihilation on November 21, 2004, 06:39:12 am
Quote
Originally posted by willy_principal
"strange behavior"...
mine? or the program behavior???

any way...............you mean i gotta ask to the modders?? i don't know any...


The program behavior. :D
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: MatthewPapa on November 21, 2004, 08:33:22 am
You can replace your vp files. Download link from Game Warden below.
http://freespaceserver.cjb.net/files/
Navigate to it from there.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 21, 2004, 08:18:56 pm
thanks....
may be the files are corrupted......right from the CD...
(i reinstalled, but the problem it's still there)
the FRED2 is in the same folder as the VP files...
and i have used the FRED2 before....i have made...fifteen missions (none of them published)...

may be the files are damaged from the CD...it's in the Sparky VP file... the main one..... the strange thing it's that the game plays correctly....i have played the first 10 missions of the Single-Player Campaing and everything ran fine...

and about the campaign i wanna make..............i'm not talking about a HUGE campaing with dozens of missions...loads of mods and stuff......................................................... ...the only thing HUGE in the campaign is the plot...i worked it though for 10 hours...or more...
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: karajorma on November 22, 2004, 12:23:53 pm
Download the FS2_open 3.6 package from the Source Code Project forum (You'll only need the executables rather than the installer for what I have in mind).  Put the Launcher EXE, FRED2_open EXE and the FS2_Open EXE in your Freespace2 Folder.

Run FS2_Open's launcher to set the correct setting in the registry (you can run FS2_Open from the launcher to test if it works too) Then test FRED2_Open and see if that works.

If the VP is corrupt FRED2_Open whould crash out with exactly the same error message. If it does work you can simply download FRED2_Open 3.5.5 and use that instead of the retail version.
Title: Re: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 25, 2004, 01:13:40 am
Quote
Originally posted by willy_principal
hi there......
I want to make a campaign.......
I already got the plot................(it's a little inspired in Halo, so you got an idea)...
developing the plot was real hard..............but i think that this campaing will answer most questions we have from Freespace 2...
What are the Shivans? Why are they attacking us? they haven't settled any planets, why??? what happened with Bosch??? and more...
the plot will also feauture a MAJOR irony...you'll know when it's released...

but i have a SERIOUS PROBLEM with the FRED..........
i can't open it!!!
it gives me error with the gamepalette01-1 or something..
this is what it says:

"
Error: Can't open palette file
File:C:\projects\freespace2\code\Palman\PalMan.cpp
Line: 317

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
    FRED2.EXE 0064ec88()
    FRED2.EXE 0063a544()
    FRED2.EXE 00639528()
    FRED2.EXE 00639731()
    KERNEL32.DLL bff63613()
    KERNEL32.DLL bff848f7()
------------------------------------------------------------------


What I think it is is a corrupted file. Try extracting the faulty file out of the .vp itself. It always seems to work for me. :)... Wait. the VP's are faulty, right? Well, get 'em replaced. Oh, crap, i'm confused........ ARGH! $%&*#%^ :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 25, 2004, 09:15:44 pm
PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

i erased my entire disk, reinstalled Win ME, reinstalled FS2...........................and now FRED2 works fine..............

errr...i have more problem to go...
i need some 'new' ships for campaign...but i little modding skills...
no idea how to modify a model...or to edit a pcx file (the maps)...

[ SPOILER ] i need 'infested' versions of the Fenris, the Deimos, the hercules MKI, the Ulyses, and the Loki. the models should have some sort-of spikes or biologal formation in their surface. and their textures should be green-teal colored with 'infection'-like stains [ SPOILER/ ]
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 25, 2004, 09:18:07 pm
PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

i erased my entire disk, reinstalled Win ME, reinstalled FS2...........................and now FRED2 works fine..............

errr...i have more problems to go...

i need some 'new' ships for my new campaign...but i have little modding skills...
no idea how to modify a model...or to edit a pcx file (the maps)...
just some experience modifying table files...

[ S P O I L E R ] i need 'infested' versions of the Fenris, the Deimos, the hercules MKI, the Ulyses, and the Loki. the models should have some sort-of spikes or biologal formation in their surface. and their textures should be green-teal colored with 'infection'-like stains [ S P O I L E R / ]
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 25, 2004, 09:24:04 pm
****!!!
how the hell put the SPOILER THINGY!?!?!?!
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 25, 2004, 09:29:05 pm
I think there are some at the FS2 Sector at sectorgames. It's got Borg assimilated looking ships. There used to be some at Volition Watch, but I think they took them off.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 25, 2004, 09:32:55 pm
Quote
Originally posted by willy_principal
****!!!
how the hell put the SPOILER THINGY!?!?!?!


Quote someone, and then replace the (quote] and (/quote] with (SPOILER] and (/SPOILER] and then edit the quote. Put both SPOILERS in brackets. And tone down on the rambunctiousness. If you're new here, this will "mark you as immature and n00bish." Here, why don't you experiment on this post? Remember, put whatever you're saying between the SPOILERS. The second one is /SPOILER.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Unknown Target on November 25, 2004, 09:35:35 pm
You put the tag before the end spoiler, not after it. Also, you don't put spaces between each letter.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 25, 2004, 09:35:54 pm
(SPOILER] thanks (/SPOILER]
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 25, 2004, 09:38:28 pm
Spoiler:
i hope it works now.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 25, 2004, 09:40:15 pm
Great job! :D
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 25, 2004, 09:40:32 pm
any programs out there to edit the POF's?.........or someting.....................i got the MOD viewer 32.........and the FSkit with the VP viewer and stuff.................
nothing more...........
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 25, 2004, 09:44:31 pm
Go to www.descent-freespace.com. They've got tools and command lines and crap. They've got a model-viewer that doubles as a .POF editor. You can add gun points and turrets.

[/EDIT] Open up the Model Viewer and click on .POF editor.

And to edit Table Files, open them with Notepad or Wordpad. if you want a tutorial, PM me, give me your email, I will give you mine, send you an email, reply to me confirming you got it, and I will walk you through basic table ediing.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 25, 2004, 11:20:48 pm
my skills:
Medium table-modding (i don't know how the beams works)
Basic POF editing (though the model-viewer, i know how the change the textures, add subsystems, and stuffs)
Medium FREEDING (i think, at least)
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 25, 2004, 11:25:31 pm
One last request...
i need time and date references to tighten my campaign's storyline...
the date when the NTF rebellion appeared. When it finished.
when does Capella went supernova.
And...in how much time a destroyer travels from one side of a system to the other...and how much time does takes the travel from a system to another...
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 25, 2004, 11:32:30 pm
Quote
Originally posted by willy_principal
One last request...
i need time and date references to tighten my campaign's storyline...
the date when the NTF rebellion appeared. When it finished.
when does Capella went supernova.
And...in how much time a destroyer travels from one side of a system to the other...and how much time does takes the travel from a system to another...


Look at the Tech Database, I think it says when the NTF Rebellion arose. It doesn't say when Capella went kaput, I think it was 2679. I haven't a clue. As for a destroyer going places: sublight engines or subspace? In sublight, about a month or so to get to another system, in my opinion. In subspace, about an hour. To one side, about 2 weeks. In subspace, 30 minutes. :D I don't know, these are just guesses. :p You wanna voice act for me? PM me if you're interested. Send voice samples at either [email protected] or [email protected] .
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 25, 2004, 11:37:27 pm
eerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............thanks any way.........
hmmm....................i read somewhere that ships couldn't jump directly from one side of a system to the opposite side, in one jump because of the gravitacional sometin'.................that's why the NTF needed rally points or something...
ships need  to make several jumps to travel though a system....i guess that depends on the quantity of planets or somethin'...
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 25, 2004, 11:52:27 pm
Quote
Originally posted by willy_principal
eerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............thanks any way.........
hmmm....................i read somewhere that ships couldn't jump directly from one side of a system to the opposite side, in one jump because of the gravitacional sometin'.................that's why the NTF needed rally points or something...
ships need  to make several jumps to travel though a system....i guess that depends on the quantity of planets or somethin'...


Oh, yeah, I forgot...... since the jumps are rather long, they have to make multiple jumps via jump nodes.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 26, 2004, 12:06:12 am
WHAT!?
no...multiple jumps are needed intra-system...
anyway...multiple jumps inter-systems are impossible...since you would appear in the middle of nothing with to gravitation to use to open a subspace hole....or somethin'

well...I'M READY TO GO...
I'LL TRY OUT MY FREDING SKILL IN THE FRED ACADEMY FIRST TO TEST 'EM...
THEN, IF I'M GOOD ENOUGH, I WILL FINALLY START MY CAMPAIGN...
BTW, it's name will be: HOMEWORLD
(i know there is game called like that, but, that was the most 'suitable' name that crossed my mind)
[each passing day, new ideas for the plot crosses my mind...i think i gonna need more help than i thought]
till today: the storyline involves:
- 4 races
- 6 factions
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 26, 2004, 12:14:42 am
No, I meant to another system. Damn, I really need to make a homemade FS2 encyclopedia for myself. SIX FACTIONS? Last I checked there was the GTVA, NTF, and the HOL. :confused:
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 26, 2004, 12:34:09 am
i'm talking about my campaign's storyline....not FS2/1 storyline...
mine will involve those 6 factions...
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 26, 2004, 01:24:30 am
Why didn't you say so! Jesus Christ, Man!
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: pecenipicek on November 27, 2004, 02:17:40 pm
dont involve jesus into this man!
he saved you from your sins!
you would be dead by now if he didnt!!!
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 27, 2004, 02:22:22 pm
Well, I was exasperating, so I should have used something else, but that was the only thing that crossed my mind.

[/EDIT] What's with the Apollo's and Myrmidons below our callsigns?
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: pecenipicek on November 27, 2004, 02:25:16 pm
oh well...
poor jesus anyway.
and i dont believe in god or his bloody son.
or should i say crucified son.
im an atheist.
150% pure
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 27, 2004, 02:31:29 pm
Then why did you say that about our Lord?
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: pecenipicek on November 27, 2004, 03:10:00 pm
dunno...
apollo myrmidon, etc.
its the member "rank" system.
this is a bloody fs only forum
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 27, 2004, 03:24:07 pm
I'm a Christian and you're an Atheist... WAR!!! A FRIKKIN BLOODY WAR!! :D :lol: :ha:
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: pecenipicek on November 27, 2004, 03:38:51 pm
as usual :D
so whatcha doin?
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 27, 2004, 03:45:31 pm
Watchin' the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD and trying to get the GTI Bretonia to work.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: pecenipicek on November 27, 2004, 03:46:48 pm
is it an arcadia or?
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 27, 2004, 04:01:01 pm
No, it's a new civvy installation that looks BEAUTIFUL... Go to "another GTI" in the FS mods section if ya want it.
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Lightspeed on November 27, 2004, 08:24:14 pm
:yes2: This thread rox :yes:



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: willy_principal on November 27, 2004, 09:17:13 pm
my thread about my campaign turned into a religious discussion?!
Title: I wanna make a GOOD Campaign, but a got a SERIOUS PROBLEM!!!
Post by: Cobra on November 27, 2004, 10:30:54 pm
Nah. I just said the J and C words and old Atheist boy here told me to not say it again. So, I think the matter is closed. ;) You can now go on with your happy life with your happy campaign. :D

Oh yeah... JERRY, JERRY, JERRY, JERRY!