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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Triple Ace on November 22, 2004, 05:49:56 pm
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I just came across this and thought it was something to bring up.
http://www.petitiononline.com/FS3/petition.html
Check it out, there are alot of people that signed this thing.
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I want a Freespace 3. But i didn't want it by Derek Smart ;)
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FS3?
Uh oh. I predict an imminent death by fire to this thead...
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I'm with him. This is the last thing we needed posted...
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I'm siggy 24 on that. And 2782, just for the hell of it.
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*BLAM*
Let's try again, shall we? *sigh*
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Enough already.
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Death by rat poison!
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Signed!
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Ok so I made a mistake in posting this. I did not know I was gonna make people upset. You don't have to gang up on me and make me look like a jackass.
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chilll man...
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I'm pretty sure nobody reads online petitions anyway.
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speaking as a newbie.... I didn't know there was that much history around this until I looked...largely thanks to this thread!
I tracked down this game because I noticed it still featured in several magazine 'top titles' for space combat sims....and it was sooooo old. I figured it should be cheap to buy ( er...OK..got that one wrong ;) ) and must have something good going for it ( I think I was right there ;) ) but no more than that.
I don't think a sequel is likely, with the original designers long gone, and have no expectations of ever seeing one. If it DID come out, chances are it would flop. Too many people have too many ideas on what it should be. That would scare off any sane developers right away....and thankfully, at least, one Insane one ;)
Anyway...as far as a FS3 engine goes, the graphics engine has been pretty well sprcued up by the SCP programmers, and this 'Ferrium' project looks like it might go somewhere! Maybe if that looks like a viable venture it might attract some interest from the 'money men' ..... It happened with 'Rowans Battle of Britain'
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Oooook, we really need a friggin "Newbie primer" for FS3.
READ THE WIKKI!
...at least we have one newb who looks around (Meek)
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Nobody reads Wiki... not even the vets... Which is a shame really.
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
Nobody reads Wiki... not even the vets... Which is a shame really.
but I don't need to! I think I even wrote about half or more of the freespace3 part in the wiki.
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/fsdoc/index.php?pagename=Freespace3
I also think I signed that petition years ago when it was made. a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then.
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
Nobody reads Wiki... not even the vets... Which is a shame really.
I do.
:p
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Edit: I'm a retard. Please shoot me.
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Um, genius, this is old, as in, pre-Derek Smart, when people actually thought a FS3 made by [V] was possible.
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An internet petition! Now everything will change!
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!!1!1DEATH!1!11!
!!11!!~by~!1!!1!!
!!1!!11!FIRE!!1!1!
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Originally posted by Lynx
An internet petition! Now everything will change!
My thoughts exactly. :doubt:
Look, everyone. Nobody cares how many fake people signed an online petition demanding that a sequel to a 5 year old game be made.
Do any of you even realize how utterly pathetic it sounds that we have to even have this discussion?
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Originally posted by Raa
My thoughts exactly. :doubt:
Look, everyone. Nobody cares how many fake people signed an online petition demanding that a sequel to a 5 year old game be made.
Do any of you even realize how utterly pathetic it sounds that we have to even have this discussion?
Hmmm...I signed this already in September.
Some people just can't let it go. I have to admit I'm one of those people. But this whole FS3 issue...so simple yet so complicated! Everyone —including myself— knows there won't be one, but we fail to stop dreaming. I don't know if that's to be admired or scolded.
I mean, isn't dreaming the reason why this community has existed for so long?
:(
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All of which makes me wonder - has petiononline.com actually ever changed anyone's mind... ever? I've seen at least two dozen of these things floating around on the internet and not a single one of them has ever seemed to do anything.]
Last week there was one for George Bush to get out of office... as I'm sure that will just convince him that being President was a bad career move, he should have never have quit his job at Burger King.
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A large majority of the 'Veterans' in this thread just made themselves look like asses. Good job :doubt:.
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Eh? By pointing out how futile this is?
Hey! Here's an idea! Let's all get in a car, drive to Champaign Il, and protest outside Volition's HQ until they promise to buy the rights from interplay, who hasn't expressed any wish to sell the,, and will probablt take it with them when they fall into oblivion!
Great idea! It's as sure fire a way to get them to do it as signing an online petition that nobody'll ever read!
So. Who's car will we take?
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I doubt Triple Ace really thought it was actually going to make a difference, but rather was showing an example of how many people there are that would actually support said thing. Shouting stupid crap like 'Death by rat poison' or 'death by fire' or making sarcastic remarks has even less of a positive effect than talking straight out about 'protesting to Volition for FS3.'
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Jet, when you've been here since, oh, 1998, when the first FS was made, you'll see how we have all gotten tired of practically every newbie and his grandmother posting about Freespace 3. So, we flame them, hoping, somehow, someway, that future newbies won't make the exact same mistake as practically every single newb that comes on these forums does: Not thinking and posting straight away about FS3.
In response to Marauder: Yes, this community has thrived on dreams, but the real thing that has kept us going, if you look at it, is our dedication to the game, and expanding it's content. IF we didn't o that, we would've let it die long ago.
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I posted this on Sectorgame a little while ago. I think it sums up the reason why I personally don't like to see FS3 topics like this one.
The people in the community love Freespace. Talking about FS3 is like continually reminding someone about the death of a loved one. While the odd comment about them might be tolerated, continually talking about them is tactless and hurtful. It reminds them of their loss. Of all the things they'll never be able to do with the one they so dearly miss.
Remember that the community has talked about FS3 a lot. We've all expressed a sadness that it never happened. We've all managed to get past that grief. Some of us have even convinced ourselves that we're better off now.
So leave us our fond memories of FS3 in peace and don't continually intrude on the memory of what could have been.
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Originally posted by Marauder
Hmmm...I signed this already in September.
Some people just can't let it go. I have to admit I'm one of those people. But this whole FS3 issue...so simple yet so complicated! Everyone —including myself— knows there won't be one, but we fail to stop dreaming. I don't know if that's to be admired or scolded.
I mean, isn't dreaming the reason why this community has existed for so long?
:(
Our dreams are what we make, not what we hope other people will make.
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Jet, when you've been here since, oh, 1998, when the first FS was made, you'll see how we have all gotten tired of practically every newbie and his grandmother posting about Freespace 3. So, we flame them, hoping, somehow, someway, that future newbies won't make the exact same mistake as practically every single newb that comes on these forums does: Not thinking and posting straight away about FS3.
In response to Marauder: Yes, this community has thrived on dreams, but the real thing that has kept us going, if you look at it, is our dedication to the game, and expanding it's content. IF we didn't o that, we would've let it die long ago.
I got FS2 in 1999 (or around that time) and loved it. When I found out there wouldn't be an FS3, needless to say, I was pissed. But I got over it. You should, too. Flaming every curious newbie who asks about it is probably why few of them actually stick around :doubt:. It's unnecessary, childish, and rude. How hard would it be to type 'There won't be FS3, sucks, don't it.' instead of 'OMG STFU, Your making me upset!'
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C'mon. Asking us here about FS3 is like asking your aunt who was forced to have a histerectomy because of ovarian cancer why she isn't having any more children.
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You know I seriously thought the whole Freespace # subject was overwith? Why is it that it keeps getting brought up?
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Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.
I doubt Triple Ace really thought it was actually going to make a difference, but rather was showing an example of how many people there are that would actually support said thing. Shouting stupid crap like 'Death by rat poison' or 'death by fire' or making sarcastic remarks has even less of a positive effect than talking straight out about 'protesting to Volition for FS3.'
Like I said before, I was trying to be helpful in some way and maybe give people some hope but you don't have to make me look like a jackass.
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You talking to me?
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I'd spend more time on Ferrium than FS3. Once its done, at the very least, if the original [V] developers actually wish to make it privately and without official support, then they wont have to worry too much about coding an entire new engine.......
Wait...did that just sound horribly wrong?
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Originally posted by Triple Ace
Like I said before, I was trying to be helpful in some way and maybe give people some hope but you don't have to make me look like a jackass.
This isn't to make you look like a jackass. Hell, it isn't even about you anymore. It's about a subject that'll be a thorn in our foot forever.
That said... this thread should be locked.
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I say we skip FS3 and go right for FS4. :nod:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
I say we skip FS3 and go right for FS4. :nod:
:lol: so true
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
:lol: that is new debate that is newer done ( much as FS3 one)
Uhh... what did you just write?
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
:lol: that is new debate that is newer done ( much as FS3 one)
right, because FS3 is done for newer. newer is done for FS4 as of yes. Indeed, as is for FS3 is correct, and different.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Uhh... what did you just write?
Err.... something. :nervous:
anyway Fs3 will be never done, but if newbies ask about it we should have nice answer to them why there won't be and not" OMG DON*T TALK ABOUT FS3 !!!!!!!1111oneone"
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Originally posted by Carl
right, because FS3 is done for newer. newer is done for FS4 as of yes. Indeed, as is for FS3 is correct, and different.
how little I actually understood of that, it still makes more sense than what you quoted. and most of what that member writes. someone who claims to be 30+ (34 was it, eh, HIG?) should know a lot better english.
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Originally posted by Singh
I'd spend more time on Ferrium than FS3. Once its done, at the very least, if the original [V] developers actually wish to make it privately and without official support, then they wont have to worry too much about coding an entire new engine.......
Wait...did that just sound horribly wrong?
If they wanted to do it privately, part of the enjoyment would be a new engine IMO.
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This is going nowhere.