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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: IceFire on March 11, 2001, 01:03:00 pm

Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: IceFire on March 11, 2001, 01:03:00 pm
Alrighty, here goes number two.  I still want to do some weapon effects and sheild impacts but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

 (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/icefire/art2.jpg)
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Fineus on March 11, 2001, 01:11:00 pm
Very nice! obviously with weapons fire it'll look better, but so far so good  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

How did you do those engine glows?

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Setekh on March 11, 2001, 05:37:00 pm
Looks like standard glows behind the Seraphim and in front of the Serapis. (What's with the Serap- prefix?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)) Nice job, Ice! Shield impacts eh? Ambitious...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)         
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: NeoHunter on March 11, 2001, 09:07:00 pm
Nice but a bit too sparse for a background. Weapons fire would be nice. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Shield impact effects huh? Can't wait to see one though.

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: IceFire on March 14, 2001, 06:59:00 pm
Engine glows are two layers.  One layer is a lower opacity spray brush.  The layer on top is blended using the Dodge function of PSP and using a brighter color.
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Setekh on March 14, 2001, 08:41:00 pm
That sounds kinda complicated. Does it take you long?
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: NeoHunter on March 14, 2001, 09:57:00 pm
Interesting. Maybe I'll go home and experiment with that.

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Setekh on March 14, 2001, 10:30:00 pm
Mine's simple. Add a flare. Add another flare. Done.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: NeoHunter on March 14, 2001, 10:42:00 pm
Is it?? Guess I better go and look back at your previous pictures.

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Sushi on March 14, 2001, 10:45:00 pm
Not too bad... Only thing I can really complain about is that you need to adjust it to make the lighting more realistic. The Shivans are way too lit up for ships with the sun behind them...

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: NeoHunter on March 14, 2001, 10:47:00 pm
But if you made them any darker, wouldn't that make them almost too dark to see?? I mean Shivan ships are all black and red.

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Setekh on March 14, 2001, 10:50:00 pm
Yes, but effective shadows are very impressive. Too many times in pics, the lighting on a ship is just plain wrong for the scene it is. Ships near a red sun should be washed red. The side of a ship opposite a star should be shadowed.
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: NeoHunter on March 14, 2001, 11:30:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Yes, but effective shadows are very impressive. Too many times in pics, the lighting on a ship is just plain wrong for the scene it is. Ships near a red sun should be washed red. The side of a ship opposite a star should be shadowed.

Obviously...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)



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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Sushi on March 15, 2001, 12:05:00 am
You're right, you have to make some concessions to make the ships show up, but they can still go quite a bit darker IMO. If you could make it so that the fighters were completely shadowed except for the glow cast by the Shivan trademark Red Lights along the hull...

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: NeoHunter on March 15, 2001, 12:12:00 am
Wonder what makes red lights appear on the Shivan ships..... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Setekh on March 15, 2001, 01:28:00 am
 
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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
Obviously...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

Well if it's so obvious, why hasn't everyone done it? Take the picture above for example? Hmmmm?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Fineus on March 15, 2001, 01:32:00 am
%Disclaimer - I'm not responsible if this thread plunges into stupidity%  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

I interviewed a Shivan today about the red thing, heres what he had to say....
 
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BZZZT!
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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Setekh on March 15, 2001, 01:40:00 am
 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: NeoHunter on March 15, 2001, 01:53:00 am
I will not start the "Talk like a Shivan" thingy..... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Starwing on March 15, 2001, 04:45:00 am
Oh god, my stupidity spreads like the Beast in Homeworld: Cataclysm...

Back to topic: Nice pic.
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Fineus on March 15, 2001, 04:58:00 am
Yeah! it really does need weapon fire though, especially at that kind of range...

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: IceFire on March 15, 2001, 08:02:00 am
Unfortunately, 3D Explorer appears to have very limited lighting abilities and Truespace is some sort of monster that won't let me do much of anything.
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Jabu on March 15, 2001, 08:28:00 am
You suck! They suck! I suck! Everything sucks!!!
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Fineus on March 15, 2001, 09:17:00 am
Sounds like it's time for the first part of a song  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

"Everything sucks again, well those are harsh words my friend. But don't let it get you down.... something something" (By Pitchshifer).

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: Setekh on March 15, 2001, 03:59:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by IceFire:
Unfortunately, 3D Explorer appears to have very limited lighting abilities and Truespace is some sort of monster that won't let me do much of anything.

You don't need them to really do lighting - keep in mind I do ~90% of my rendering work in my imaging software.
Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: NeoHunter on March 15, 2001, 07:34:00 pm
I think I do mine in 3D Studio Max.

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Title: Second Attempt at Fan Art
Post by: IceFire on March 16, 2001, 09:49:00 pm
I haven't tried importing to Max yet.