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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on November 26, 2004, 07:20:38 pm

Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: aldo_14 on November 26, 2004, 07:20:38 pm
http://www.cia.gov/cia/ciakids/ginger/scene01.html

Your tax dollars at work......

Actually, I don't know whats odder; the fact that the CIA feel the need for a 'CIA Homepage for Kids', or that MI5 doesn't have an equivalent Dangermouse section.
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: vyper on November 26, 2004, 07:30:27 pm
Thats actually quite cute. :lol:

Edit: It's well known the CIA and the KGB spent a lot of the cold war messing around with using kids as sleeper agents. It's even worked it's way into popular culture (a la Alias). I wonder exactly what could be done with a site like this?
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: vyper on November 26, 2004, 07:35:47 pm
Iraq Intelligence problems suddenly make sense: http://www.cia.gov/cia/ciakids/aerial/index.shtml

EDIT: The "allies" were able to crack it?
http://www.cia.gov/cia/information/artifacts/enigma.htm

U571 was bad enough - Brits got it, Brits broke the code. End of discussion.
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: FireCrack on November 26, 2004, 07:41:29 pm
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Originally posted by vyper

EDIT: The "allies" were able to crack it?
http://www.cia.gov/cia/information/artifacts/enigma.htm
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yeah, i belive they got a machine from operatives in sweeden who also blew up a dam or somthing.
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on November 26, 2004, 08:01:03 pm
What were you doing browsing through the kids section of www.cia.gov?
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: Flipside on November 26, 2004, 08:29:24 pm
You don't understand, this was really put here so that George could remember why he went there every so often. To look at all the 'cool stuff' ;)

Why Ginger?

What's wrong with 'Mark the Microphone' or 'Eddie, your friendly exploding Teddy'?
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: Ghostavo on November 26, 2004, 08:37:29 pm
http://www.cia.gov/cia/ciakids/who_we_are/what.shtml

:lol: how nice of them...

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Once a question is asked and we determine what type of "puzzle" it is, we then set out to solve it for the policy maker.


:D :lol:
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 26, 2004, 08:39:50 pm
The US did Engima decrypt work as well. We had our own decryption section, which while it was a clone of the British GC&CS, did not have the lack of manpower and lack of equipment issues the Brits did. Overall, we did better at it then they did: more decryptions, more current. But we did get the inital equipment and procedures from them.
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: .::Tin Can::. on November 26, 2004, 09:02:23 pm
Well Ghostavo, how can you teach children the important of America's secret intelligence agency?

"Well little Lucy, this is how we infiltrate a mass-muderer's lair..."
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: an0n on November 26, 2004, 09:04:03 pm
My science teacher was an exact double of Penfold.
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: Liberator on November 26, 2004, 09:15:33 pm
Why do I feel like I'm looking at the Schoolhouse Rock version of the CIA?
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: Bobboau on November 26, 2004, 09:34:55 pm
"and this is how you disembowel a man with his own detached jaw, and then strangle him with his own intestines without makeing a sound"
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: an0n on November 26, 2004, 09:36:39 pm
"This is what the administration calls a 'regime change'. We at the Company tend to call it a 'no-rope-soap' situation, because we go in there, give them a shove, then rape their assholes till they can barely walk"
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: Flipside on November 26, 2004, 09:37:09 pm
Well done Billy!

And next week, we will teach you how to put Lucy's broken arm into a splint! :)
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: Bobboau on November 26, 2004, 09:52:09 pm
...
Ginger: so what is "blow back" ?

CIA Man: well when an 'operation' has 'undesierable and unforseen consequences' it is called blow back.

Ginger: so would that be like when I eat candy and get a cavity

CIA Man: sort of, for example in the 1980s Iran had just had a revolution that threatoned our intrests in the reagon, so the CIA installed a ruthless dictator in the bordering nation of Iraq and then supplied him with vast amounts of biological and chemical weapons so he could wage a bloody and long war of atrission with Iran. but after this war the dictator decided to kill off hundreds of thousands of disidents and invade a smaller weaker nation that we were allied with. then we had to go to war with him and that was blow back.

Ginger: but... I tought you said they were 'undesierable and unforseen' you gave him the weapons to kill people and invade another nation, you didn't see that comeing?

CAI Man: well... ... ... ... ... no...

Ginger: ... ...what did you say the 'I' was for again?
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Post by: Rictor on November 26, 2004, 10:51:15 pm
Pfft. I already know my way around Langley.

Splinter Cell baby. I can even find the secret UFO office.
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Post by: Grey Wolf on November 27, 2004, 01:25:46 am
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Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
"Well little Lucy, this is how we infiltrate a mass-muderer's lair..."
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Originally posted by Bobboau
"and this is how you disembowel a man with his own detached jaw, and then strangle him with his own intestines without makeing a sound"
"Sadly, kids, we can't do this anymore, as a nasty executive order says we have to stay at our desks and have no fun. Now, we have to go and make up interesting stories to fit the fun, fun plans of our kind, fun-loving demonic overlords...."
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: vyper on November 27, 2004, 07:58:40 am
@ngtm1r

http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/page.cfm?pageid=159
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: aldo_14 on November 27, 2004, 08:21:39 am
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Originally posted by FireCrack


yeah, i belive they got a machine from operatives in sweeden who also blew up a dam or somthing.


Norway, IIRC.

They actually had a copy smuggled over from Poland in 1938, too; a lot of work originally done by the Poles was used as a basis to break enigma encoding.  Both the US / UK also captured a total of 16 Enigmas from submarines & surface ships; the first deliberate capture was by the Royal Navy in 1941 IIRC.

I think most Enigma work (and also other crypto-analysis) on the Western front was done in Bletchley park; the Us would presumably have been more involved in crypto-analysis of Japanese transmissions, simply down to locality.
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: karajorma on November 27, 2004, 08:48:10 am
Maybe I've been watching to much porn or something but I think there's a subtle undercurrent going on here.

First you've got a picture of Ginger sprawled on her desk with the words I'm ready for adventure written next to them.  

http://www.cia.gov/cia/ciakids/ginger/images/scene03_0001.jpg

Immediately after that she states that she doesn't want to get in trouble.

And the less said about this pic http://www.cia.gov/cia/ciakids/ginger/images/scene07_0001.jpg and her talking about getting wet the better.

EDIT : I'm going have trouble getting in to the US now aren't I? :D
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: aldo_14 on November 27, 2004, 08:53:59 am
"And this is what the CIA calls a 'honey trap'"

Honey...bear....waittamo!
Title: "ginger's CIA adventure"
Post by: Blitzerland on November 27, 2004, 04:41:16 pm
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Originally posted by Bobboau
"and this is how you disembowel a man with his own detached jaw, and then strangle him with his own intestines without makeing a sound"


I half expected this to be there (with extensive charts and diagrams).