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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Aggressor_Squad on November 29, 2004, 09:05:44 pm
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Looking Good..."Large Version" DL Link Below
http://progressive2.stream.aol.com/newline/gl/newline/lordoftherings/ReturnOfTheKing/videos/NoMansExtndCut_700_dl.mov
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Oh my...
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And now the million dollar question:
The Scouring of the Shire, yes or no?
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na i heard they never even filmed that part
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damn! 50 extra minutes would be more than enough to cover that and do it justice and still have lots of time of the other stuff.
the Mouth of Sauron looks awesome though.
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The thing about the Scouring is that the way the movie portrayed it, The Shire was never even really aware that anything was going on out in the world of men. So tossing The Scouring would require a second Extended Version of the other 2 films and all the actors involved to come back and film it, all to make the fans happy. Alot of the extra stuff they already had filmed and it was simply a matter of editing and some of it was effects shots so it could be done any time.
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Well, they weren't. But then Saruman comes along and brings the world to them. The movies stay true to the Shire in that respect, and I don't think it would have been out of line with the rest of the movies.
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another positive is that we will see Gondor ACTUALLY KILLING some Orcs now :yes:
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*is really excited*
That looks so good!!!!!!!!
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The Scouring wouldn't work in cinematic format anyway; it's too anti-climatic to the main story. As an avid fan of the trilogy for several years, even though I would like to see the films remain as true to the books as possible, I have to admit that there are certain things that just don't work well in movie form.
As for that trailer...:D
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*Waiting for my pre-order to come in*
It must be soon now....?
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Originally posted by Aggressor_Squad
na i heard they never even filmed that part
I heard they did; it was the ending of the Two Towers, but got cut and should have been moved to the intro of ROTK, but again gut cut from that one.
What's the UK release for this? Might put it on me xmas list.
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That thing's pre-ordered for quite a few weeks now. Just 10 more days to wait.
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If they would just fix the Army of the Dead fiasco....
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Originally posted by TrashMan
If they would just fix the Army of the Dead fiasco....
heh no kidding :p i'd personally rather see 2000 Gondorians charge in with the trio rather then some green pile of crap coming in deux ex machina style....
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Personally I hope they put the (in my view) the true climactic moment when Saruman and Gandalf. Now theres a George Bush v (Insert goodie/baddie depending on views)esque fight I would like to see. Damn I can't get away from politics. Still looks good
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Um....I'm at school, I can't see the clip, what's all this about?
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Originally posted by TrashMan
If they would just fix the Army of the Dead fiasco....
I was :wtf: when I saw they green swirlies wrap all around. I can't believe they did that since it makes it seem like such a cheap solution to the problem =/
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
Um....I'm at school, I can't see the clip, what's all this about?
basically it's a 6 min preview trailer of the upcoming Return of the King Extended Edition DVD due Dec 14... 50 mins put back in the movie.
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:eek::eek::eek:
50 minutes of extra footage! :eek: Showdown of Saruman Vs Gandalf! Sauron in the movie! :eek:
6 minute trail (MUST WATCH!) http://www.dvdtown.com/videoclip/lordoftheringsreturnoftheking-/12523/22/
Best christmas ever, this will be!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
*faints*
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http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,28208.0.html
No Scouring of the Shire makes Rictor something something...
Go crazy?
Don't mind if I do!!
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Ph34r the Mouth of Sauron. ****er creeps me right out
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yup, its very well done. The Mouth is one of the few characters who I have no idea what they should look like, and this just blew me away.
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I'm there... This will be so good! :nod:
Oh yeah:
(http://homepage.mac.com/clave/misc/witchking.jpg)
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w00t, i'm excited :D
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That was kind of a let down.
"Leave the White Wizard to me." says the Witch King. And then nothing, no epic battle, no exchanged insults, nothing.
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You have to watch the actual extended edition for those. What's the point in extending it if you give everything away in the trailer :D
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Goddamnit, I already have the normal ****ing version on DVD. :doubt:
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But you don't have the extra 50 minutes, nor do you have the three DVDs worth of special features. :p
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They didn't add the Scouring of the Shire? Screw that, then. I'll sit here with my collection of LotR DVDs, none of which match. (FotR - Normal Fullscreen; TTT - Extended Widescreen; RotK - Normal Widescreen)
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Goddamnit, I already have the normal ****ing version on DVD. :doubt:
Why in F**k's name did you buy that? After special editions of FotR and TTT were released didn't you detect a trend?
Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
They didn't add the Scouring of the Shire? Screw that, then. I'll sit here with my collection of LotR DVDs, none of which match. (FotR - Normal Fullscreen; TTT - Extended Widescreen; RotK - Normal Widescreen)
They didn't film the scouring of the Shire so they don't have it to add. I do miss it but it would have added another 30-50 minutes to the storyline at least so there was no way it could have been in the cinema version (and therefore wasn't cost effective to film).
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EDIT: Never mind.
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Originally posted by karajorma
Why in F**k's name did you buy that? After special editions of FotR and TTT were released didn't you detect a trend?
Actually, now that I think about it, I think we only have the first two movies. Not sure why though.
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Are you guys SURE they didn't film the scouring of the Shire? Towards the beginning of that clip, Saruman says "Something festers in the heart of Middle-Earth." But that scene is at the end, I believe, after the defeat of Saruon. Could he not be referring to the Shire?
Threads merged.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
I heard they did; it was the ending of the Two Towers, but got cut and should have been moved to the intro of ROTK, but again gut cut from that one.
What's the UK release for this? Might put it on me xmas list.
you're thinking of the complete confrontation between gandalf and saruman
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Originally posted by Kazan
you're thinking of the complete confrontation between gandalf and saruman
No, I'm 100% certain it was the scouring of the Shire (i.e. had words 'scouring', 'of', and 'shire' that was mentioned as being cut and etc etc.
Because I don't have a ****ing clue what that scene actually is, and didn't at the time.
EDIt; it doesn't mean that they were right about it being added, of course. Because I can't find anything that says it's in there, but I'm sure that's what was said (on Teletext just prior to the premiere in NZ, I think)
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Just pre-ordered it :D
Actually, I pre-ordered the Extended Edition Trilogy box :D €119 though :(
Ow, and the Scouring of the Shire *WAS* filmed but it was cut and isn't in the EE;
www.tolkienonline.com/gallery/archive/trailerscouring010928a.jpg
But the Mirror of Galadirel sequence from the first film, does show it.
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There's no way they'd have put the scouring of the shire anywhere in the second movie. It's completely the wrong place for it :)
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Who do I have to kill/bribe to get that section?
Seriously, we need to get some nuclear power to threaten to nuke New Zealand unless Peter Jackson releases it.
The movies won't be complete without it, though it is encouraging that at least it was filmed, so there is a chance.
What's the complete, extended trilogy going to run at, like 12-13 hours or so?
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the never filmed the scouring
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Did nobody see my post or are you just that ignorant? Go watch TFOTR and watch the sequence with the mirror... :doubt:
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Kaz: crushes hope
Tiara: inspires hope, however distant
who am I going to believe?
Who would you want to believe?
Plus there's a screeny.
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Originally posted by Rictor
Plus there's a screeny.
Which I posted ... :blah:
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i'd like to see this screenie
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its right in her post dude, thats the one I was reffering to.
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Originally posted by Tiara
Ow, and the Scouring of the Shire *WAS* filmed but it was cut and isn't in the EE;
www.tolkienonline.com/gallery/archive/trailerscouring010928a.jpg
But the Mirror of Galadirel sequence from the first film, does show it.
That's not THE Scouring. That's A scouring. Specifically one carried out by Sauron after having won the War of the Ring. It also features footage of Samwise in chains, something that doesn't occur in Sharkey's Scouring.
In other words you'll have to do better than that to prove to me that the shot you've linked to wasn't filmed only for the scene with the Mirror of Galadriel
EDIT : Took a look at the scene again. Although the rest of my point stands I have no idea if that is Samwise or not to be honest. It looks a bit like him but he's only on screen for a few seconds.
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Lalalala, I'm not listening.
They did film the Scouring, they will release it eventually.
They will, seriously.
...they have to.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Towards the beginning of that clip, Saruman says "Something festers in the heart of Middle-Earth." But that scene is at the end, I believe, after the defeat of Saruon. Could he not be referring to the Shire?
That's just after Helm's Deep, when Theoden and company drop in on Isengard. I also wondered what Saruman was on about, and I can only assume he's referring to Denethor's descent... or he might just be speaking bollocks to try and mislead Grandorf... with Jackson's script monkeying, we may never know :)
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MMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm CG-licious ;)
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They did NOT film the scouring. The clip that was in Galadriel's mirror would have been a part of the scouring, should they have filmed it. However, that's the only bit of it they ever did film. I'm pretty sure Peter Jackson said so himself, somewhere.
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a bit off topic...but
how much more is it with the Minas Tirith Model...anyone know?
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I enjoy physical modeling more than most, I'm gonna get an airbrush soon or later, but why would you put yourself through the torment of trying to build a model The White City.
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hehe.
Well I'm pretty confident they didn't film the scouring of the shire.
They decided upon it early on because it wasn't part of the main story, and it was anti-climatic. Check the extra footage DVD's they say something about it in there I think.
And can you imagine trying to film a legitamite Hobbit battle?
It would be very difficult to portray it seriously...
BTW, did anyone know that Christopher Lee didn't show up to the premier of the theatrical version because it didn't include the showdown between Saruman and Gandalf...
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As I said in an earlier post, the Scouring is anti-climatic, at least in cinema form, and there would be no real reason for Peter Jackson to film such a long sequence and then not put any of it in the film. I do distinctly remember Jackson saying, either on one of the DVDs or in another interview online, that he never filmed the Scouring nor intended to. What I think a lot of people need to remember is that the films are not the true story; they are Peter Jackson's interpretation of Tolkien's work, the true story. Viewed in such a context, they are a masterpiece, even without the Scouring. :D