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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nico on March 16, 2001, 03:38:00 pm
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http://www.geocities.com/venom250681/ShivanPage.html?984689348340 (//"http://www.geocities.com/venom250681/ShivanPage.html?984689348340")
Well, I made this fighter for the shivan campaign, and I thought (yes that happens sometimes (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)) : why not making a render of it? I would like comments plz (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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I like the design. Looks "Shivan" enough to me. Great work!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Wow... nice job. You should make that available for download. One slight problem - Styxx created a fighter for the MT campaign named the Chimera also, so... contact him at [email protected] to sort things out. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Again, excellent job - on both the render and the ship model and texture.
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Sweetness!
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cool, like a big, beefy aeshma
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I like it! I can definitely see elements of the Lucifer in there as well (no bad thing - I love the Lucifer) And the render is good as well, the mood of it is just right for a Shivan (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Anyway, the other Chimera is the TFFa Chimera (Terran Forces Fighter Advanced). This ship 0wnz you bad. I think Styxx designed his ship first, so - well, you two can figure it out (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Well, thanx thanx (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Harg for that name thing... I made the ship from it lol: chimera: 3 heads --> lucifer front. I also liked the medusa so: the center front thingy looks like medusa's cockpit), and chimera just comes along great with dragon, manticore and all other beasty shivan names... Well, they have different designation, so I don't think it's a big deal. I'll ask styxx anyway (if I find his mail adress somewhere). Could just someone who knows him ask him to come on this thread and have a look?.
BTW what do you mean by "This ship 0wnz you bad", I'm french, and you guys on this forum sometime use weird expressions lol
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venom2506
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I posted his email right above in my second last post dude (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Anyway, that's just a little piece of what we call 'l33tspeak'. It's a 'language' where people substitute various characters or numbers to represent letters and words. The term '0wn' means 'own' - which is another gaming term. To 'own' something is to... well... be better than it, destroy it, something along those lines - don't worry, this is a good thing (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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It owns mine bad, so my model is no match for styxx one, mmh? We won't be friends hehe (just jocking (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) ). Ok I'll contact him .
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venom2506
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Nah hehe, what I meant is that in a FS2 combat situation, the Chimera would be more than a match for say, 2 or 3 Herc 2s. With good AI. It's a seriously powerful ship, hence the 'advanced' suffix.
But your model is fantastic. From start to finish, it is a quality piece of work. Well done. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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hehe, the tbls for mine are not the ones of a erinyes, but's it's kind of uncommon ship, you could be surprised (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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venom2506
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Dammit! I want that model! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
[This message has been edited by Setekh (edited 03-17-2001).]
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Very nice. I saw it and I thought "Wow. It's a baby Lucifer" (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Then I looked at the other pics and it's an excellent model on it's own right.
[This message has been edited by Jabu (edited 03-18-2001).]
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See, the only problem with my Chimera is that someone said he would create the skin for it, but he didn't do it! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Okay, okay, I can wait. But not forever. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
p.s. no problem with the name, they won't appear on the same campaign...
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Thumbs down at me. I haven't been the ball lately. Especially for texturing. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) I'll be trying to get it done this week.
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hmm texturing shivan ships is quite easy (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) lot of grey, some dark areas, and red strings, and hop! That should take you too long (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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mmh, when my chimera and yours will be finished, I'd like a test to see wich species makes the better chimera (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) ( well if it's balanced of course (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) )
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venom2506
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looks awfully shivan! GJ!
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That is one mean lookin fighter! What kind of weaponry does it have, how strong are it's shields / hull, and how fast can this puppy move? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Yeh - we want tech details (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Yeh - we want tech details (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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I'm guessing it's the next best thing to an Ares or Erinyes... but don't quote me (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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That powerful? Game unbalancing come soon!!! The Shivans are so power already. If they got a fighter like an Areas or an Erinyes, it would really be unfair don't you think?
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Long Live The Fighters!!!
Do or do not. There is no try - Master Yoda
Yub yub Commander! - Major Wes Janson
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NeoHunter< [b][email protected][/b] >
Upcoming campaign: Fury Storm
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I've said it many times, but I'll say it again. The balancing of a ship depends on the environment it is placed in. Sure, one Erinyes is unbalanced when pitted against a lone Loki. But is it a fair comparison? Pit that same Erinyes against two, three, even four Lokis, and things are getting stacked in the other way. Or have it opposite an Ares, which would possibly be better matched.
An excellent example of this is the Colossus. It is armed with several LRBGreens - these things will pulverise any destroyer class without even breaking a sweat, so you could argue that they are unbalanced. But against the Sathanas, the mighty LRBGreens are in fact very weak (when compared to the BFReds).
Make note of this: for uber-ships like the Chimera (both of them, if the Shivan one becomes like the one in the Machina Terra ("http://terra.sourceforge.net") campaign), maybe you could consider putting them in missions a different way. Instead of having four of them to a wing, make them fly in pairs. There you go, balance.
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Hem, anyway, I never aid that it was more powerful than a erynies, don't make me say what I haven't (sp?). The tables for these one aren't done, but I thought of it as a kind of heavy walkyrie, and It sure won't have 8 (!) gun points. Killing a ship in one shot is good for the WC4 Dragon, that's enough for me. But I would like to have a sight on the terran chimera, maybe a non mapped view?
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