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Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Shrike on November 30, 2004, 03:07:56 pm

Those sneaky Isrealis...

All those pictures you've seen of the Merkava IVs have been fake.  This is the real thing.

(http://www.starshipmodeler.org/gallery9/jm_merkava1.jpg)

(http://www.starshipmodeler.org/gallery9/jm_merkava6.jpg)

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Rictor on November 30, 2004, 03:12:49 pm

That would be some awesome if it was actually real.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Sandwich on November 30, 2004, 03:12:51 pm

Back to the Future, meet the IDF. :D

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Falcon on November 30, 2004, 03:15:22 pm

Three words.......

Tanks in Space :D

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Clave on November 30, 2004, 03:23:10 pm

Three more words: Foreign Object Damage

Running turbojet engines close to the ground in battlefield conditions is a no-no....

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Falcon on November 30, 2004, 03:24:50 pm

Yeah think about all the sand that will get into the soldiers eyes :drevil:

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Vertigo1 on November 30, 2004, 03:35:29 pm

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Originally posted by Clave
Three more words: Foreign Object Damage

Running turbojet engines close to the ground in battlefield conditions is a no-no....

Thats what they make armor for. ;)  Besides, it'll keep enemy soldiers at bay. :)

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Sandwich on November 30, 2004, 04:00:05 pm

He means damage to the engine. :p

BTW: http://forum.vif2.ru:2003/nvk/forum/files/Kingpin/Merkava_Mk.4.asf

or http://www.brainzipper.com/Merkava_Mk.4.asf

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Liberator on November 30, 2004, 04:02:35 pm

I think he meant the debris they would suck up.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Thorn on November 30, 2004, 05:05:56 pm

Yeah, FOD is bad enough on runways.
I remember being stuck on FOD duty while I was in cadets years ago. Almost every goddamn time we went to CFB Greenwood.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Fineus on November 30, 2004, 05:06:52 pm

Surely also a well placed shot to the turbine would cause massive damage?

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Thorn on November 30, 2004, 05:08:58 pm

Engine=Fuel Lines=Kaboom

Title: Re: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: aldo_14 on November 30, 2004, 05:20:00 pm

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Originally posted by Shrike
Those sneaky Isrealis...

All those pictures you've seen of the Merkava IVs have been fake.  This is the real thing.

(http://www.starshipmodeler.org/gallery9/jm_merkava1.jpg)

(http://www.starshipmodeler.org/gallery9/jm_merkava6.jpg)

Bit tight to get into, though - they'lll need to accelerate development of tiny midget shocktroops.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 30, 2004, 05:21:04 pm

You can harden an engine against that kind of thing, though. Otherwise the concepts behind the Caspian Sea Monster wouldn't be effective.

It's called ground-effect flight.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Shrike on November 30, 2004, 05:22:41 pm

Anyhow, the full text of the model is here:  http://www.starshipmodeler.org/gallery9/jm_merkava.htm

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Corsair on November 30, 2004, 05:26:41 pm

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Weaponry includes a nuclear ion pulse cannon and several small particle beam defense weapons.

damn :D

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Col. Fishguts on November 30, 2004, 05:36:11 pm

hehe...saw that too today....good to know I'm not the only HLP nut browsing through starshipmodeler.com

Title: Re: Re: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Sandwich on December 01, 2004, 12:25:14 am

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Originally posted by aldo_14


Bit tight to get into, though - they'lll need to accelerate development of tiny midget shocktroops.

What is this?! A hovertank for ants??!? It needs to be at least..... three times bigger!!

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Turnsky on December 01, 2004, 03:54:08 am

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Originally posted by Sandwich
He means damage to the engine. :p

BTW: http://forum.vif2.ru:2003/nvk/forum/files/Kingpin/Merkava_Mk.4.asf

or http://www.brainzipper.com/Merkava_Mk.4.asf

imagine if the IDF and the ADF (Australian Defence force) pooled their resources....

phear :nervous:

*imagines a Tank turret mounted on a holden ute*:p

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Vertigo1 on December 01, 2004, 02:37:54 pm

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Originally posted by Sandwich
He means damage to the engine. :p

Bah

That would only keep the gremlins out of the works. :D :lol:

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Clave on December 01, 2004, 03:23:45 pm

They had better have screens on the intakes, because even a small stone hitting a blade turning a 30,000 rpm, is a big ouch...

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Splinter on December 01, 2004, 04:40:07 pm

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Originally posted by Turnsky


imagine if the IDF and the ADF (Australian Defence force) pooled their resources....

phear :nervous:

*imagines a Tank turret mounted on a holden ute*:p

google search for holden ute

(http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i15/1572_4mg.jpg)

you want a tank turret on this car? :wtf:

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Turnsky on December 01, 2004, 07:25:57 pm

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Originally posted by Splinter


google search for holden ute

*snip*
you want a tank turret on this car? :wtf:

it was a joke! :p

but given that the ADF's armored core consists of leopard tanks..

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Sandwich on December 02, 2004, 03:09:19 pm

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Originally posted by Turnsky


it was a joke! :p

but given that the ADF's armored core consists of leopard tanks..

:wtf: Okay, does anyone else find this ironic? Australia has tanks? Sort of like Switzerland's navy, innit?

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Clave on December 02, 2004, 03:14:30 pm

They are self-defense tanks, specially adapted to run on kangaroo droppings, so they can't be used overseas.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Vertigo1 on December 02, 2004, 03:16:05 pm

You know....I've just got a funny idea. :D

Santa's Sleigh v2.0! (if you haven't seen the Futurama X-mas episode, you won't get this at all)

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: aldo_14 on December 02, 2004, 04:02:17 pm

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Originally posted by Sandwich


:wtf: Okay, does anyone else find this ironic? Australia has tanks? Sort of like Switzerland's navy, innit?

Well, they are a sparsely populated country lying a stretch of sea across from some of the worlds most densely populated countries..........

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Turnsky on December 03, 2004, 05:49:07 pm

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Originally posted by Sandwich


:wtf: Okay, does anyone else find this ironic? Australia has tanks? Sort of like Switzerland's navy, innit?

:lol:  we too, have a navy.. :p
but given the mobility of today's armed forces, don't be too surprised

(http://www.defence.gov.au/army/equipment/images/leopard1.jpg)

http://www.defence.gov.au/army/

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Grug on December 03, 2004, 10:26:23 pm

Damn straight!

Plus we got our SAS which will kick the crap outa almost anything else.

And if we didn't have an Army who else would America have to lose wargames too? :D

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Sandwich on December 05, 2004, 03:48:03 pm

Ok, but would Australia's military budget not be better off being spent on Navy, not Army?

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: aldo_14 on December 05, 2004, 04:34:42 pm

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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok, but would Australia's military budget not be better off being spent on Navy, not Army?

They probably have more land than ocean to cover, knowing Australia.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Turnsky on December 05, 2004, 08:16:57 pm

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Originally posted by aldo_14


They probably have more land than ocean to cover, knowing Australia.

there's a LOT of open space to cover in australia

note: australia has roughly the same area as the United States, with the population roughly the same as california...

we do have a reasonably sized navy
http://www.navy.gov.au/
nothing on the scale of other superpowers, we certainly don't have any carriers.. we used to, but not anymore..

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: redsniper on December 05, 2004, 09:04:04 pm

(http://www.konamijpn.com/products/mgs3/english/pic/mecha_pic01.gif)(http://www.konamijpn.com/products/mgs3/english/pic/mecha_pic02.gif)
Russia's answer to your pitiful little tank.
For those that don't know, it's the Shagohod, MGS3's equivalent of a metal gear.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Turnsky on December 05, 2004, 09:14:06 pm

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Originally posted by redsniper
(http://www.konamijpn.com/products/mgs3/english/pic/mecha_pic01.gif)(http://www.konamijpn.com/products/mgs3/english/pic/mecha_pic02.gif)
Russia's answer to your pitiful little tank.
For those that don't know, it's the Shagohod, MGS3's equivalent of a metal gear.

actually, according to the chronology of MGS3, that is the first metal gear.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: redsniper on December 05, 2004, 09:38:17 pm

it has no legs so it's not a true metal gear. it's more of a forerunner to the walking version. You do meet the guy who designs metal gear in MGS3 though. He even gives you the blueprints since the Russians don't want them.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Turnsky on December 05, 2004, 09:47:55 pm

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Originally posted by redsniper
it has no legs so it's not a true metal gear. it's more of a forerunner to the walking version. You do meet the guy who designs metal gear in MGS3 though. He even gives you the blueprints since the Russians don't want them.

well, the definition for metal gear was a nuclear equipped tank... it had no saying in whether it had to have legs or not

if i remember correctly, arsenal gear was just a bigass ship :nod:

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: redsniper on December 05, 2004, 10:02:11 pm

awww, you're right. Still, a walking tank is way cooler than a regular one and Arsenal Gear just reminds me of everything bad in MGS2. *grumbles something about seeing Raiden naked and glowing floors*

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Rictor on December 05, 2004, 10:23:54 pm

Quick question for those "in the know"

What kicks more ass, the Abrams or the Merkava IV?

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Turnsky on December 05, 2004, 10:38:39 pm

http://www.army.mil/fact_files_site/abrams/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/merkava.htm
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i'd say comparable abilities, but the merkava's got that limited personnel carrying ability, as well.

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: delta_7890 on December 06, 2004, 12:01:32 am

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Originally posted by redsniper
awww, you're right. Still, a walking tank is way cooler than a regular one and Arsenal Gear just reminds me of everything bad in MGS2. *grumbles something about seeing Raiden naked and glowing floors*

IIRC, that front part can detach, and not walk, but run!  Fast!

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Sandwich on December 06, 2004, 01:48:56 am

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Originally posted by Rictor
Quick question for those "in the know"

What kicks more ass, the Abrams or the Merkava IV?

Merkava is also geared for desert combat -- IIRC it's hailed as the best desert MBT in the world, and that was before Mk. 4. The Abrams, IIRC, has had to be fitted with all sorts of dust filters and such.

Plus, the Merkava can down enemy helicopters with it's main cannon, as the vid shows:

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Originally posted by Sandwich
He means damage to the engine. :p

BTW: http://forum.vif2.ru:2003/nvk/forum/files/Kingpin/Merkava_Mk.4.asf

or http://www.brainzipper.com/Merkava_Mk.4.asf

How cool is that? ;)

EDIT: LOL!!! http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26973

Title: Leaked pictures of the Merkava IV
Post by: Turnsky on December 06, 2004, 02:50:38 am

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Originally posted by Sandwich


Merkava is also geared for desert combat -- IIRC it's hailed as the best desert MBT in the world, and that was before Mk. 4. The Abrams, IIRC, has had to be fitted with all sorts of dust filters and such.

Plus, the Merkava can down enemy helicopters with it's main cannon, as the vid shows:



How cool is that? ;)

EDIT: LOL!!! http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26973

now you've got me thinking of tank commanders going skeet shooting with their merkava's :p