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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Liberator on December 02, 2004, 02:41:01 pm
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I realize I won't be missed but it's been fun.
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Your absence will be noticeable
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heh
bye
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Everyone has a point of view, don't leave because you can't change other people, leave because you are bored, have got a life, have found love, or had a non-timewasting revelation....
Personally, I think it's pretty dull if you have nobody to argue with, but if you want to go, then go....
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Wait, if you're in the Depths of the Lunatic Fringe, are you moving out beyind Lunacy into Normality, or further towards the Lunar Core? ;)
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Don't let people drive you off ;)
What you have to remember is that there is no-one twisting your arm forcing you to change your opinion and you don't need justify your beliefs to anyone. Nor is anyone forcing you to reply to posts, if you don't want to get into an argument, then don't bother with the thread.
That's why some of these threads make me laugh, because theres no such thing as 'Right' and 'Wrong' simply'My View' and 'Your View'.
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I'm tired Clave.
I'm tired of butting my head against a wall and being rediculed while I do it.
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at least stay for 20 more posts so you can make 3000. then at least you can say you accomplished something here. :D
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Hold ridiculous beliefs and you can expect to be ridiculed.
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lol nuke
liberator maybe if you weren't trying to force everyone else to conform to your view, and were content to hold it yourself then people would be a little more tolerant of you
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Well, as you yourself pointed out Lib, we can be nasty in here and still helpful in the Freespace section, so why not just take a break from the General section?
It IS hard going in some of those threads, but just because I wouldn't ask you to a pro-abortion rally doesn't mean that you aren't every bit as much a part of this community of Kazan or Nuke :)
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I could simply give you an enforced hiatus from HL to eliminate any temptation. :p
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Does anyone play Freespace anymore?
*Waits to get smacked.*
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:lol: Haven't had a chance to use that orbital laser for a while? :p
I don't think Lib needs anyone to help beat him up at the moment ;)
Edit : Freespace? What's that? Some kind of political movement? ;) hehehehe
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Flip i think it's something related to ALF and ELF
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Lib, I just saw what went down in those other threads... here's my advice:
I, like you, am a fundamentalist (note the small-case, Kaz; I don't belong to the organization ;) ) Christian (who happens to be Jewish and live in Israel, but anyway).
{WARNING: Christian-ese Alert}
It's interesting what you can learn about leading a "good Christian life" by living in Israel. For example, witnessing or street evangelism - "missionary activities", the Israelis would call it. As long as it's up to me, I'll never do it. My testimony is my lifestyle. I hope that others see the way I act and react to any given situation and come to see the love of Jesus lived out in my life, not get it all shoved into their faces and down their throats. Sure, if they ask, if the topic steers that direction, I'll not hold my beliefs back. But otherwise? Actions, not words.
An example of this... I know of this one person online who I developed a good online friendship with, and then I found out that he's gay. I felt that he was wondering if he'd get rejected by me and others or something along those lines, so I told this person openly that I think that he is living in sin and that I completely oppose his chosen way of life. But more importantly, I told him that regardless of what I thought of his way of life, I would not let it affect our friendship.
It's sort of like how I view the Muslim world and people. I love* Muslims, but I hate Islam.
* (Ok, I admit this would be more accurate as "I try to love Muslims...", but then again I also try to be a good person ;))
We aren't here to try and force our knowledge of the truth on others - that's God's job. All He asks us to do is to be witnesses - sharing what we have seen with others, not forcing what we believe on them.
{/END: Christian-ese Alert}
Anyway, all this to say that if someone has a problem with my views, all they have to do is stop asking about them. If someone sees things differently than I do, that's fine. We can debate the differing points of our opinions until we're all blue in the face, and in the end, agree to disagree.
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Yea, I just abandoned the arguing, except for the occasional comment. I doesnt go anywhere anyway. I like Shrike's idea. Maybe you should try that before leaving.
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besides, if you guys really want to insult one another in political topics, go here
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=24
or here
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=43
or
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=62
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Meh, just stay here but it's your choice
I been reading those "Political threads" and i just going say meh. some times arguments get out of hands, it happens some times and everybody does have diffrent view, that makes it interesting. You can't force anyone take same view you have
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Originally posted by Kazan
Flip i think it's something related to ALF and ELF
Would you mind enlightening me as to a definition of those acronyms?
A quick google search got me a couple of business sites and a dozen sites about the Elf movie.
You're alluding that I have some kind of mental disorder aren't you?
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Originally posted by Liberator
I'm tired Clave.
I'm tired of butting my head against a wall and being rediculed while I do it.
Are you sure this is what you want to do? There's always the ignore button, after all :)
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Originally posted by Liberator
You're alluding that I have some kind of mental disorder aren't you?
gotta bit of a complex there?
ALF = Animal Liberation Front
ELF = Earth Liberation Front
they're domestic ecoterrorist organizations -- general nutjobs
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Sandwich: the problem is your 'ilk' overhere in the united states are just like the taliban -- force their hyperpsycho right-wing authoritarian fundamentalist christian fascism on the rest of us
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Originally posted by Liberator
Would you mind enlightening me as to a definition of those acronyms?
A quick google search got me a couple of business sites and a dozen sites about the Elf movie.
You're alluding that I have some kind of mental disorder aren't you?
Try doing a search on acronyms. ;)
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'Freespace' - A political movement that believes that the area of vacuum outside the atmosphere is not the property of any man or nation! ;)
We're honestly not out to get you Lib, I think people have been pressing too many of your buttons. Take a breather and try not to take us all so seriously ;)
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*sigh*
Well done Kaz my man, your persistance has paid off. Congratulations are in order. One down, a couple hundred million to go. But be warned, your time on this Earth is limited, so you better pick up the pace a bit.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Liberator, I understand where you're coming from, and for the most part I agree. I'm all for frank and open discussion about whatever, but when every single damn thread becomes a firing range for political idealogy, its gets tiresome. My only advice to you is to learn to take it in stride, and realize that comsically speaking, what some guy on the Net says and thinks isn't really of much concern to anyone. Life's too short to get upset every time someone calls you a fascist or a fundamentalist or whatever. I'm as opposed to the policy decisions of the US as anyone, but shouting it from the top of my e-lungs isn't going to change anyone's mind and evidently, its has a tendency to piss people off. Don't let it get to you, after all, its just words.
*cue dramatic music*
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Liberator, I really wish you'd change your mind. Don't leave me alone with these people! :p Seriously, though, don't get down about it. Everyone here is friendly enough, at least outside of the realm of politics/religion. Try taking a breather and come back with a new philosophy. You and I both know that no one's going to change their minds because of something that anyone else says. I've felt the "brick wall" analogy myself, and I know how frustrating it can be. Just remember that, at the end of the day, you still believe what you believe, and no one can change that. Not even a whole row of "Christofascists!!!!!1!1!1" posts.
Kazan, we all know what you have to say; you've said it in an infinite amount of annoying fashions across an infinite number of threads. This thread isn't about your political viewpoints, so just shut up for once.
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If you can't play the game, don't play it.
Kazan is just simply better at it than you. Less headbutting and more shutting up usually does the trick.
You can't handle it. You lost. Time to move on.
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*turns on Gladiator followed by some Halo 2 music*
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Originally posted by BD
If you can't play the game, don't play it.
Kazan is just simply better at it than you. Less headbutting and more shutting up usually does the trick.
You can't handle it. You lost. Time to move on.
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So, what, whoever can yell the loudest, while at the same time having a higher bull**** threshold wins? Right...
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@ Rictor - Only in their own view.... ;)
Lib, you are obviously paranoid (either naturally or due to results of 'debating' with others) so maybe you should take a break... It happens to eveyone occasionally. You don't have to go, just lurk. But sometimes one decides they do have to go and that is O.K. too... No biggie, in REALITY we are all just a bunch of folks that don't really know each other that are hundreds/thousands or more miles apart. It takes a long time to develop close friendships or even respect via the internet - a few folks here have done that - here and/or in other places. So in your RL it probably is not that big of a deal to sweat (laborously...) what goes on in here... This is a good escape and also a good place to see what else is out there in the world, but this stuff will not affect your immediate environment unless you allow it to...
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Near the end of the election I decided to take a break myself from all the debating. I'm much more relaxed these days!
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Come on Lib if you leave Kazan will win. Their gonna hammer you every time you say anything that goes against them and allways will. But, you can't quit. And Kazan if you would stop bringing up bad things about the Religous people and stop calling us "christofasists" than than things would go a whole lot smother over here. Also where have we tried to shove Religous stuff down your throat? Everytime I see it brought up is when you bring it up first.
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Good, WeatherOp. I like your strategy of taking a thread about the hostility of political debates and making it a political debate. This addition will really finalize the whole conflict once and for all.
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You know, I like this board much better when they're aren't as many sociopolitical debates...
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aldo, why do i need a password to see that image?
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You need a what now?
In other words, not a scooby. Don't worry, you're not missing much....
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Firefox is giving me a password prompt everytime i load the page. For a page called redirect.htm.
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
You know, I like this board much better when they're aren't as many sociopolitical debates...
You and me both.
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If were gonna make a political lets make it JUST a political thread.If we can just stay off the Religous stuff it will be a good debate.
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Politics is hopelessly entangled with morality, which is hopelessly entangled with religion.
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Meh, I haven't even read the threads, but I already know what they have to say. Regardless of what anyone says, regardless of what anyone calls you, you still believe what you believe and they'll still believe what they believe. If you've supported your argument with all you can, then there's nothing more you can do. No one's asking you to do the nearly impossible (i.e. change Kazan's mind about Christianity), so just take it easy when the nearly impossible doesn't happen. [Christian-ese] Besides, the Bible tells us that Christians will suffer and be persecuted for the name of Jesus, so do as Paul said and consider it pure joy my brother that you are suffering for the kingdom of God. [/Christian-ese]
Besides, God still loves you, even if Kazan doesn't. Heck, God loves Kazan too.
:)
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And if God doesn't, at least Satan does. ;)
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WeatherOp: stop acting like fascists and i won't call you fascists
remember when i talk about christofascists I'M ONLY talking about the fundamentalist christians who want to force their views on everyone (like libby and mongoose)
other christians (sandwich comes to mind) are not christofascists
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All together now:
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Everytime I look at something to do with this thread, it asks me to enter a password or something. Is it this thread, or my browser? :confused:
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I haven't saw one comment that Lib or Mongoose tryed to force their views on you, it is you who keeps trying to force your views on them. If you want to countiue this, go to another a different website.
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WeatherOp then you haven't been paying much attention -- when they legislate their "morality" they're legislating there religion
I am forcing them NOT TO because I am upholding the constitution and government religious neutrality -- so if I am "Forcing my view upon them" then that means allowing them to make the choice themselves is "forcing" and making sure they don't force their view on other people is "forcing"
:roll:
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Guess it didn't work the first time:
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I'm starting to like the crappily made american automobile more and more. ;)
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If you want to uphold the neutrality of the constitution, You need to keep you mouth shut about religous things. Then all will be well.
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Bye bye thread
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How about this:
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Originally posted by WeatherOp
If you want to uphold the neutrality of the constitution, You need to keep you mouth shut about religous things. Then all will be well.
wow that's so antithetical to the constitution that it's not even ironic
it's pathetic
People like liberator are turning this country into a theocracy and are thereby violating the constitution - SO IM NOT GOING TO SHUT MY MOUTH
I'm going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure my 1st Ammendment right to freedom of religion is uphold and im going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure homosexuals 14 Ammendment right to equal protection under the law is respected
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Wheeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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Meditating Monkey.....MMMMMMMMMMMMM
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WHEE!!!
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Look I am using my first admendment rights :lol:
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They're sooo cute
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yes that's right - flood the thread with images so that WeatherOp doesn't get taken to task for his hypocracy
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Ok
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Originally posted by Kazan
wow that's so antithetical to the constitution that it's not even ironic
it's pathetic
People like liberator are turning this country into a theocracy and are thereby violating the constitution - SO IM NOT GOING TO SHUT MY MOUTH
I'm going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure my 1st Ammendment right to freedom of religion is uphold and im going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure homosexuals 14 Ammendment right to equal protection under the law is respected
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(http://pl.atyp.us/pictures/australia/original/IMG_0496.jpg)
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Haha, I like the Lenin one.
(http://www.thepgi.org/FunTings/STFUCOM.jpg)
This is one of the best I've seen. :lol:
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You said it...
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WOMBATS!!!
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He likes his Dress.
(http://gotpetsonline.com/pictures-gallery/exotic-pictures-breeders-babies/capuchin-monkey-pictures-breeders-babies/pictures/capuchin-monkey-0004.jpg)
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I'm going to make sure he sees it
Originally posted by Kazan
wow that's so antithetical to the constitution that it's not even ironic
it's pathetic
People like liberator are turning this country into a theocracy and are thereby violating the constitution - SO IM NOT GOING TO SHUT MY MOUTH
I'm going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure my 1st Ammendment right to freedom of religion is uphold and im going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure homosexuals 14 Ammendment right to equal protection under the law is respected
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
How about this:
(http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/gtdwolf/pics/leninsu.jpg)
Actually, it says "Lenin says close up!"
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Ohh! its so cute!!
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Damn. That's what I get for using the Babelfish translator. I was aiming for "Lenin says shut up!"
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Take a look at that Bad Ass
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Yoda says,
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HaHa
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fellow water swimer.
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It looks like there's something wrong with that one. :wtf:
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I...Am...Slow...
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Damn. That's what I get for using the Babelfish translator. I was aiming for "Lenin says shut up!"
Ah, well, it's semi-original anyway.
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Time for Echidnas now!!!
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You're probably the only one who noticed. BTW, how would one write "Lenin says shut up", or even "Lenin says 'STFU, n00b!'" in Russian?
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What about kangaroos?? :(
(http://www.mjgkramer.com/animals/kangaroo.jpg)
They're so adorabe!
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*skips from bottom of page 1 to top of page 4*
*wonders what he missed and why there are pictures of random furry things everywhere*
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or Amadillos!
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or answering to getting taken to task for hypocracy
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You're missing the point...
Emu!!!!!!
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or answering to getting taken to task for hypocracy
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Rolie Polie.
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(http://www.stetson.edu/~pmay/woodruff/titmouse.jpg)
Titmouse, anyone?
*tries not to post other images that came up under the titmouse search*
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Camels.
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
You're probably the only one who noticed. BTW, how would one write "Lenin says shut up", or even "Lenin says 'STFU, n00b!'" in Russian?
....... goes to get Cyrillic keyboard.....
My best guess would be "ËÅÍÉÍ ÃÎÂÎÐÈÒ "ÑÒÔÓ ÍÓÓÂ" or "ËÅÍÉÍ ÃÎÂÎÐÈÒ "Ñ.Ò.Ô.Ó. Í00Â", although that is strictly translating "STFU N00B" into english using Russian phoenetics. If you want to do it right, you'd have to go look up "Shut" "the" "****" "up" seperately and use the initials, but it probably would not translate well.
EDIT: ..... and of course it doesn't work with the board. Great...
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More Camels.(http://www.bugkid.com/camel/pictures/tn_008_jpg.jpg)
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Never mind. Let's see if I can find a Russian dictionary or something online...
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'cause I love converge...
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Okay, so who's going to post the first penis?
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That sounds like something an0n would do.
Alright I am finished, this is no longer funny.
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Of course not, there's no penis.
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Last one... >.>
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That's the spirit Ford!
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Yeah, I guess so.....for the moment.:devil:
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Originally posted by redmenace
That sounds like something an0n would do.
Originally posted by Ford Prefect
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Sorry my mistake, something Ford Prefect would do.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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He said penis, not dick...:doubt:
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Dissapointed, are we?
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Fine, be technical....:lol:
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You didn't specify whether it was to be an anatomical penis or a metaphorical penis jammed in the posterior of the gaming community.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Dissapointed, are we?
Yes. Very much so.
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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
You didn't specify whether it was to be an anatomical penis or a metaphorical penis jammed in the posterior of the gaming community.
*DIEING OF LAUGHTER*
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Hey, Red, you haven't posted in 3 minutes, are you dead?
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It was the Laughter that got him.......
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Still Laughing...
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just you wait... :drevil:
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Revised Lenin poster:
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revisions! :shaking:
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Hey, look at the last part of this post. YEAH!!!!!!!!!
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,28277.0.html
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lockage?
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hey ford perfect, Raa, redmenace
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WEATHEROP ANSWER THE CHALLENGE COWARD - I challenged your hypocracy and your arsehole buddies covered for you with image spam ANSWER THE ****ING CHALLENGE
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Session Start (ICQ - 28119425:Raa Tor'h): Thu Dec 02 19:43:25 2004
[19:43] Kazan: yeah that's right - flood the thread with images so WeatherOp doesn't get taken to task for his hypocracy
[19:43] Raa Tor'h: ok
[19:44] Kazan: even though i've already posted it
[19:44] Raa Tor'h: ok
[19:49] Kazan: if i was an admin and people started disrupting threads like that i'd be editing posts and issuing warnings
[19:49] Raa Tor'h: ok
[19:56] Kazan: so lame
[19:56] Raa Tor'h: ok
[20:59] Kazan: why the hell are you covering for that ass
[21:00] Raa Tor'h: because I have a right to
[21:00] Kazan: because you're being a ****nut
[21:00] Kazan: because you feel the need to help the fascists?
[21:00] Raa Tor'h: because you're out of control
[21:00] Kazan: because im out of control?
[21:00] Kazan: BULL****
[21:00] Kazan: you're out of control
[21:00] Kazan: he was being a ****ing hypocrit
[21:00] Raa Tor'h: good bye
[21:00] Kazan: so i took him to task
[21:01] Kazan: POLITELY
[21:01] Kazan: and you disrupt the thread?
[21:01] Kazan: i would BAN you on my forums for that kinda ****
[21:01] Kazan: I'm out of control for politely challenging hypocracy
[21:01] Kazan: while you four spamming 3-4 pages of images is "in control"
[21:01] Kazan: that's bull****
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Actually, I blocked you after good bye...
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And what is a hypocracy challenge? Ohh', I just got it from you.:lol:
Thanks Raa:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
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Raa: yep right in line with the way you're dealing with problems - RUNNING FROM THEM
You know what you're doing? It's called "obstructing free speech" -- it's something that fascists do.
So either cut it out, or continue and prove yourself the enemy of freedom
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WeatherOp: i'll repost it for the fifth or sixth time
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Originally posted by WeatherOp
If you want to uphold the neutrality of the constitution, You need to keep you mouth shut about religous things. Then all will be well.
wow that's so antithetical to the constitution that it's not even ironic
it's pathetic
People like liberator are turning this country into a theocracy and are thereby violating the constitution - SO IM NOT GOING TO SHUT MY MOUTH
I'm going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure my 1st Ammendment right to freedom of religion is uphold and im going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure homosexuals 14 Ammendment right to equal protection under the law is respected
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And I don't care if you're right. This isn't a political forum. And I really wish you'd not make every thread into one.
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I'm not running away from my problems. I'm sick of listening to your incessant whining. You sound like a ****tard. It's hard to take you seriously. Grow up a little. Calm down, and STOP USING BOLD ALL CAPS!!!!!!!
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MathewPapa:
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Raa: if you don't want to participate in the political threads DON'T READ THEM
instead you have chosen to spam them in a supression of free speech - you'd make a certain someone very proud
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Any one want to use their 2nd Admendment rights? :D
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This wasn't a political thread, buddy.
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Kazan, you are not mad are you?
:p
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Also. I'm not suppressing anything. I was actually expressing my right to free speach. People are ****ed up animals.
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Originally posted by Raa
And I don't care if you're right. This isn't a political forum. And I really wish you'd not make every thread into one.
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Umm...if you can't take the heat, get the **** out of the kitchen. He's not the one going on a spamfest trying to derail a thread just because the topic isn't to his liking. If you can't debunk what he's saying, STFU and go find another thread to post in. Back buttons work wonderfly well for this task you know. :rolleyes:
I'm not running away from my problems. I'm sick of listening to your incessant whining. You sound like a ****tard. It's hard to take you seriously. Grow up a little. Calm down, and STOP USING BOLD ALL CAPS!!!!!!!
LOL
You telling him to grow up.....
Umm, which one of you was flooding this very thread with stupid pictures again? Last I checked, it wasn't Kazan so by using the process of elimination.....its YOU that needs to grow up. Stop being such a ****ing drama queen. I swear, everytime Kazan smacks a fundie around a little, you get your knickers in a knot. Stop being such a pansy, and either debate him properly or STFU!
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Originally posted by Raa
I'm not running away from my problems.
no, you're helping someone else to so by spamming four pages of pictures
Originally posted by Raa
I'm sick of listening to your incessant whining.
oh yes, standing up for constitutional rights is "Whining" - why don't i abridge some of your rights that you enjoy then tell you to "stop whining" when you get pissed
Originally posted by Raa
You sound like a ****tard.
If I have to be a ****tard to defend the constitution of the united states and everything it stands for it's a small price to pay
Originally posted by Raa
It's hard to take you seriously.
because im vehement? because im biting? because i have to deal with people who don't know they're wrong when evidence walks two inches in front of their face?
Originally posted by Raa
Calm down,
no - im not going to calm down until fascists stop trying to take over my country and turn it into a fascist theocracy
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Originally posted by Raa
I was actually expressing my right to free speach.
you were enganging in a non protected expression because you were using it to supress other individuals free speech
learn a little law
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Yea!!!!!!!!! We get to take over this country.
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answer the challenge WeatherOp
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Oh piss off. Both of you. This is the first time I've ever done such a thing. I agree with his viewpoint. I disagree with his tactics.
And he looks just as bad as the fundies screaming 'fascist' every chance he gets.
You're not going to change anyone's minds here. You know that. So why do you keep trying? Why is it so hard to keep your opinions to yourself? And about hypocracy? Who's the one demanding that everyone else change their point of views? And then saying that he's not pushing his ways of life on others, again?
Yeah.
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And what challenge would that be,O Wise, and Smart, and
Mighty One.
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I guess WeatherOp conceeds to your challenge Kazan. :) That ****ing coward. :P
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I don't scream "fascist" every chance i get - if accuse someone of fascism when they're acting like one, or assisting one
Why do i keep trying? Because I choose to
Why is it do hard to keep my opinions to myself? Because they are legislating their religious opinions
I'm not demanding you chance your point of views, im demanding you don't legislate religion, im demanding that you uphold the constitution of the united states.
How am I pushing my ways of life on others when i am merely demanding that EVERYONE's constitutional rights are upheld
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Originally posted by WeatherOp
And what challenge would that be,O Wise, and Smart, and
Mighty One.
Originally posted by Kazan
Raa: yep right in line with the way you're dealing with problems - RUNNING FROM THEM
You know what you're doing? It's called "obstructing free speech" -- it's something that fascists do.
So either cut it out, or continue and prove yourself the enemy of freedom
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WeatherOp: i'll repost it for the fifth or sixth time
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wow that's so antithetical to the constitution that it's not even ironic
it's pathetic
People like liberator are turning this country into a theocracy and are thereby violating the constitution - SO IM NOT GOING TO SHUT MY MOUTH
I'm going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure my 1st Ammendment right to freedom of religion is uphold and im going to exercise my 1st Ammendment right to free speech to make sure homosexuals 14 Ammendment right to equal protection under the law is respected
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None of us are in any position of authority where we can change these laws that you hate so much. We're gamers. Sitting in front of computers on a thursday night instead of going out on dates.
If I do a search for 'fascist' or 'christofascist' how many times will it appear? :doubt: There's using a word, and ther's overusing a word.
There's also a hateful overtone that drives people away. Like Lib. He may not have the best views in your opinion, but in his, they're right. Also, he didn't make the laws. He just agrees with them. I disagree with him 100% but it's his right to agree with whatever he wants. Just as it's yours to disagree.
You know what Kazan? You want to help us all so much? Stop cyberscreaming and get out into the real world and start making a change. And don't point me to your little website. The real world is not displayed on a monitor.
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And I am demanding that you get this thru your thick skull. EVERYBODY is tired of what you do.
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Kazan, lay off. Asking someone once is one thing. Asking them repetitively without them answering is a sign that they do not want to get into this conversation with you, and that you should stop.
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Originally posted by WeatherOp
And I am demanding that you get this thru you thick skull. EVERYBODY is tired of what you do.
I didn't know you spoke for everyone. :rolleyes:
Stop being such a pussy and answer the challenge or conceed.
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How was that a challenge? It was a rant. No question was even asked.
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Originally posted by Raa
None of us are in any position of authority where we can change these laws that you hate so much. We're gamers. Sitting in front of computers on a thursday night instead of going out on dates.
i don't subscribe to defeatest attitudes - i VOTE even if you don't
Originally posted by Raa
There's also a hateful overtone that drives people away..
that's the ANGRY overtone - and i have every right to be pissed that people are trying to force me to subscribe to their religious bull**** by them legislating it into law
you don't even notice that i am defending their right to believe it at the same time as making sure they don't force it on others
Originally posted by Raa
Like Lib. He may not have the best views in your opinion, but in his, they're right..
they're not "right", but he has a right to hold them - and i will defend that right, despite disagring with him vehemently
Originally posted by Raa
Also, he didn't make the laws. He just agrees with them.
he supports the creation of those unconstitutional laws, he helped the people who passed them into office, and he agrees with them - he is the enemy
Originally posted by Raa
I disagree with him 100% but it's his right to agree with whatever he wants. Just as it's yours to disagree.
and never have i said he doesn't have the right to his opinion - i've just said his opinion is wrong and the laws he is supporting are unconstitutional
Originally posted by Raa
You know what Kazan? You want to help us all so much? Stop cyberscreaming and get out into the real world and start making a change.
you ASSUME im not also doing political things in the 'real world' nice assumption
you ASSUME that online political debate doesn't affect the 'real world' nice assumption
Originally posted by Raa
And don't point me to your little website. The real world is not displayed on a monitor.
that's where you're wrong - assuming that online political discussion sites doesn't affect the 'real world' has cost people their political campaigns
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Kaz. here is the way I see it,
The beauty of America is that everyone can express their views in the first place without getting screamed at and being called a christofacist when they do. If you are indeed trying to change someones opinion dont get so angry when they disagree with you.
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I'll bet I have the biggest cock:
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Correct grammar and a polite and erudite rebuttal will earn you more respect than incorrect grammar and hostile comments.
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MatthewPapa: however they are christofascists, you have the right to your opinion but not the right to have your opinion respected
for all my yelling at them i am NOT supressing their ability to express their opinion, nor would i - i am merely opposing waht they're doing to the country vehemently
I am angry because they not only disagree - they are trying to make it into a law that i have to subscribe to their fundamentalist religion - their they're to enact their own version of the Sharia Law
YOU however WERE obstructing
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Papa is right Kazan. Like I said if you don't like Lib, or Raa or Me. You don't have to stay here, I know there is a website out there who wants a person like you.:lol: And yelling at someone and calling them a christofascists is just gonna get you HATED!
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im not the one making 5 pages of spam images to avoid having to answer getting owned for making a hypocritical comment
Originally posted by WeatherOp
calling them a christofascists
like i've told them - if they don't want to be (Accurately) describe as "christofascists" they should stop being them
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Originally posted by Kazan
i don't subscribe to defeatest attitudes - i VOTE even if you don't
You ASSUME I don't vote, just because I think you're going overboard.
that's the ANGRY overtone - and i have every right to be pissed that people are trying to force me to subscribe to their religious bull**** by them legislating it into law
you don't even notice that i am defending their right to believe it at the same time as making sure they don't force it on others
I notice you constantly telling him his OPINIONS are wrong, when by definistion, an opinion is neither right nor wrong
they're not "right", but he has a right to hold them - and i will defend that right, despite disagring with him vehemently
See above
he supports the creation of those unconstitutional laws, he helped the people who passed them into office, and he agrees with them - he is the enemy
He has a right to support whoever he wants. It's the Supreme courts job to deem a law unconstitutional. Bring it up to them, and stop making Liberator feel belittled.
and never have i said he doesn't have the right to his opinion - i've just said his opinion is wrong and the laws he is supporting are unconstitutional
And he says yours is wrong. Live and let live.
you ASSUME im not also doing political things in the 'real world' nice assumption
I see an angry forumite, and a website... I have nothing else to base this on. Also note, that I never assumed that you aren't active in the real world. I onl told you to go out into the real world with the same vehemance you have here.
And try not to get yourself arrested. You have made several threats of physical attack on this forum alone. It's only a matter of time. I ASSUME...
you ASSUME that online political debate doesn't affect the 'real world' nice assumption
that's where you're wrong - assuming that online political discussion sites doesn't affect the 'real world' has cost people their political campaigns [/B]
Kerry lost because he was a ****head, looked like frankenstein, and never stood firm on an issue. He agrred with the president one moment, then counterred him when the opportunity arrose. He was a fool, and doesn't belong to be in office any more than the current moron.
And you really do need to lay off the personal attacks a bit. You are the kind of person that makes 'middle of the roaders' leary of liberals.
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You know what Kazan, those 5 pages of spam are not suposed too cover up that question. We had other reasons.
YOU!!!!!
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I notice you constantly telling him his OPINIONS are wrong, when by definistion, an opinion is neither right nor wrong
wrong - opinions can be "right" and "Wrong"
it's called "Factual", "nonfactual"
if Libeartor feels belittled that's just too damn bad
"And he says yours is wrong" - yet mine is based of facts, his is not - END OF STORY
I wasn't referring to kerry - and your entire spiel about kerry was why he lost, despite it being completely nonfactual
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Originally posted by WeatherOp
You know what Kazan, those 5 pages of spam are not suposed too cover up that question. We had other reasons.
YOU!!!!!
yeah - because i owned you
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No, we had that planed all along, and it worked perfectly.:ha: :ha: :ha: :ha: :ha: :ha:
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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All I can say is for you guys is to get a life. I know I'm not really one to talk, given the fact I spend most of my free time online, but if you spend this much time arguing with someone you will never meet and cannot persuade, and get this angry about it, you need to take some time off and find a hobby or something.
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Originally posted by Kazan
wrong - opinions can be "right" and "Wrong"
it's called "Factual", "nonfactual"
[/b]Either way, he's entitled to them. You can scream facts all you want, you're still the one who, instead of gaining our support, is turning us away from you.
if Libeartor feels belittled that's just too damn bad
[/b]No, you're going too far. This is neither the place, nor the way to try and spread your word. And like I said, you're only pushing us further away from you.
Like I said, I disagree with Liberator. I think his opinion is bigotted. But I will never. EVER start the namecalling you have. You cross the line.
"And he says yours is wrong" - yet mine is based of facts, his is not - END OF STORY
[/b] Right... but that doesn't mean that you're going to change his mind.
I wasn't referring to kerry - and your entire spiel about kerry was why he lost, despite it being completely nonfactual [/B]
Enlighten me, oh one with gigantic brain (and ego).
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
All I can say is for you guys is to get a life. I know I'm not really one to talk, given the fact I spend most of my free time online, but if you spend this much time arguing with someone you will never meet and cannot persuade, and get this angry about it, you need to take some time off and find a hobby or something.
That's what I've been saying... Nobody is going to change anybody else's minds here. Yet these threads only get longer, more heated, and more repetititve.
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yes and posting 4-5 pages of spamming images to disrupt discussion is going to help
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No, that was more for fun. It's great being able to make you so angry.
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I believe the idea of that was to break the rythym of the argument, stopping it. Either that or getting it locked. I've given up on the first one, and I give the second one I give about 5 or 6 hours (basically, until an admin wakes up and finds this mess).
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Like Raa said, you have really crossed the line, You need to get a good nights sleep and wake up thinking "I can't change thier minds, I need to stop yelling at everyone who don't see things like I do" and then a few people might start to like you.
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disrupting - such a mature thing if you want to calm the argument down don't disrupt just give me friendly reminder to keep my blood pressure in check
and post something amusing without disrupting the thread
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You realize I wasn't one of the ones posting large amounts of pictures, correct? My total posting during those multiple pages of spam was the initial posting of my Lenin picture, and the subsequent discussion with KT about the flaws of using Babelfish for translating English to Russian.
Also, we've already suggested you calm down, for all the good that it did...
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Give you a friendly reminder?
You don't listen! We tell you to calm down and you go into a whole spiel about how you 'can't' or the 'fundies will take over!'
Seriously. Everyone needs to just take a few steps away from their PCs and go get a drink. Maybe some chips, watch a little TV (preferably cartoon network, so we don't get newsflashes) and RELAX!
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excuse me if it's difficult to simply allow these arseholes to pass their own version of the Sharia Law
excuse me if im PO'ed because right now they have control of the legislative and executive branches, and the judicial isn't doing a damn thing about it - and they could get control the judicial within 4 years and **** this country for the next thirty
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Yeah, something stupid is probly on, chill us out a little.
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Well... chill. Because you're not winning any of us over in your current state.
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Originally posted by Raa
That's what I've been saying... Nobody is going to change anybody else's minds here. Yet these threads only get longer, more heated, and more repetititve.
But we can tell them to get raped, twice, and go to hell whilst ****ing themselves and slitting their throats whilst jumping of the CN tower.
Which is quite fun i must add.
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lol :D
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This thread has gone to hell, I am going to bed. No bother in posting in a thread if its gonna be locked in an hour or so.
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Yeah... I'm outta here too... this thread only makes me lose more faith in humanity.
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im going to bed too
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I wish you'd all just shut up and stop arguing the same ****ing things over and over.
This **** is over, and I mean it. Next time one of these threads pops up you ALL get a week ban.